vinnys025 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 For three reasons: 1-He doesn't consistently miss the holes like Hobson does. 2-He isn't undersized like Vilma and doesn't get pushed around nearly as much. 3-He really fits the Mangini type of LB. He hits hard and will always try to punish RB's or whoever else he's engaged with. He can rush the passer and is descent in coverage. Call me crazy, but after watching all the LB's this season, this is my observation. Maybe you agree, maybe you don't. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangenious420 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Barton had a decent year with 5 sacks, and caught onto the 3-4 quicker than Vilma obviously. I wouldn't be so quick to conclude he's a better linebacker vinny, though I will admit Vilma is horrible when its comes to the blitz, my mother could get to the quarterback before that damn guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Eric Barton has been a great player for us since he got here. This yr Thomas & Barton are the 2 guys who stood out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Barton is under-rated. We never talk about him anymore. However, I think Bryan Thomas was our best linebacker this year. And should be in years to come. I'm very excited to see what he'll do in his second year in the system, particularly if we stick a beast like Adalius Thomas on the other side of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I don't have a problem with Barton, but it sure seemed like they were rotating him out more as the season progressed. Either he was dinged or they might not be as high on him as you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I liked Barton but didn't think he was great. I was very impressed with Bryan Thomas though, if he continues to improve we've got a stud in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 You guys do make a good argument with Bryan Thomas, however I still did consider him a DE. If you bring him into the mix, then yes I agree that he is the best LB on the team. He just played DE for most of the snaps from what I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Bryan Thomas was our best LB this year. Not only did he lead the team in sacks, but he also lead them in pressures as well and was a beast against the run. I'd rank Thomas and Hobson ahead of Barton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Bryan Thomas was our best LB this year. Not only did he lead the team in sacks, but he also lead them in pressures as well and was a beast against the run. I'd rank Thomas and Hobson ahead of Barton. Hobson was consistanty out of position, and he was a major reason why big runs were there for the picking. Our Dline had something to do with this as well, but if you go back and watch the games, keep an eye on 54 and you will see what i'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 There were rumors from some articles that the Jets might let him go. Can't be solely because of his cap # because Jets have plenty of $ for the '07 season. Even signing a big-name FA doesn't gobble up an insane amt of money on the cap in the first year of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 barton was o.k. in my opinion. nothing special. i would actually like to see what we could get for him in a trade and go in a different direction. but if he stayed, and started, i wouldn't be unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I have been saying this most of the year that Barton had a very good year. He is well suited for this defense. I think next year will be a better barometer of who is doing what after a year of learning the D. Vilma is the one that most concerns me out of all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Keep in mind that one reason we went from 4-12 to playoffs is that we got Barton back from injury this year. Barton and Kendall are the two most underrated Jets on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hobson was consistanty out of position, and he was a major reason why big runs were there for the picking. Our Dline had something to do with this as well, but if you go back and watch the games, keep an eye on 54 and you will see what i'm talking about. Word. Hobson sucks. The only time he gets to the QB is when nobody picks him up on a blitz. He's horrible at shedding blockers. He might be better taking them on as an ILB in the 3-4, than trying to rush the passer as an OLB. Barton was ok this year. But Thomas was way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 From a non-Jets fan view I would say Thomas. Vilma was man handled way too many times this year by olineman and Barton is more of a run stuffer. My favourite Jets LB is Kassell Mangini will either cut him or put him back on special teams for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbon Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Barton played well, but Sutton/ Mangini's decision to rotate him with Kassell -- who I dont think played as well as the coaches think he practices -- must mean something. His durability or his ability have to be questioned. Or, maybe he just isnt a Mangini guy. I think Barton really came on and picked it up in the running game the last half of the season. He was very effective against the run from about game 9 in. However, eventhough he isnt old, he is the oldest Jet LB (I'm not counting Chatham) and I'm pretty sure next year is the last on his contract. Because he will be looking to negotiate his third NFL contract I think he is going to expect more money than the Jets are willing to pay. Plus, he is one of the higher paid Jets right now. If the Jets can get something for him I think they will trade him, if not they may let him go, and try Kassell or Schlegel in that spot. If he has trade value its probably about as high as its going to get right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 there is no way in hell that Schlegel or Kassell should get reps and release Barton. I think some are also overrating Hobson just because he had some nice sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Eric Barton has been a great player for us since he got here. This yr Thomas & Barton are the 2 guys who stood out to me. Does Shaun Ellis still play for us? Because he has been a shell of the player I used to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I think Ellis had a decent year adapting to this defense. He also gets hurt by the lack of a very strong DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I think Ellis had a decent year adapting to this defense. He also gets hurt by the lack of a very strong DT. You may be right, but is there a strong, big talent DT available though the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Personally, I thought Thomas had the best season of the LBs. Actually, Hobson did seem to be in teh wrong spot at times, and Vilma was always being hit by an interior lineman. Barton was OK, but he seemed to play less as the season wound down. We could use a big, strong pass rusher on the opposite side of Thomas. Then, let's see the LBs play next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry jets fan Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Victor Hobson made more key plays to help the offense than Chadwick. FACT.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hobson made some good progree this year. He was horrible early, but picked up the scheme as the year went along. Barton has good speed and is a pretty sure handed tackler, no way i would let him go. Kassell and Schlegel are horrible, I would cut both of them tomorrow. They are nothing more than special teamers and were on the field way too much this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm not in love with Thomas. He played well this year. Better than I expected, but he just does not have it to be dominant. Decent starter, but when I watch him he looks like he thinks about what to do before he does it. There's no suddenness to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 You guys do make a good argument with Bryan Thomas, however I still did consider him a DE. If you bring him into the mix, then yes I agree that he is the best LB on the team. He just played DE for most of the snaps from what I could see. :confused: Maybe your getting confused when the OLB lines up to the side of our DE??? We alomst always had DE/NT/DE & Bryan Thomas in the game playing OLB... A lot of the time in the 3-4 OLBs play up close to the line, doesnt mean they are a DE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 :confused: Maybe your getting confused when the OLB lines up to the side of our DE??? We alomst always had DE/NT/DE & Bryan Thomas in the game playing OLB... A lot of the time in the 3-4 OLBs play up close to the line, doesnt mean they are a DE... I just have to get it through my head that Thomas is a LB and a DE now...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The Best Line Backer on the Jets is going to be DWIGHT FREENEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 if the Jets give big money to Dwight Freeney I ask to be banned from this site...all he can do is rush the passer when he feels like it. And even on those plays he is not a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Oh come-on....give Dwight a break....I think he would be a good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 good fit based on what? his potential sack numbers? there is no way you can justify the money he wants to his play. People are ripping me on Briggs, I would take Briggs over Freeney any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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