Maxman Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 By Sperm Edwards on the front page now! http://www.jetnation.com/?p=864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 You couldn't have been more on the money SE. The last line in the article was the most accurate though. We have some folks aroud here that think throwing money away on one or two aging players is a good way to prove to your fans that you want to win. To the casual fan that might be the case. Anybody who watches the game enough knows that it takes a strong roster from top to bottom and that's how the Jets are operating now. I love it. Great read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 A great short history read and a good tale on tale on how the current Jets were and are built. Big picture people, big picture. Remember how this team got to where it did in one short year, and do not become infatuated with big ticket luxury items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 It is the nature of society nowadays - short term gratification instead of planning for the long term. Good job Sperm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Nice job Sperm, I totally agree. The Tangini combo turned vinegar into wine last year and until they prove otherwise, I will trust their judgement. No team has ever built themselves into a powerhouse strictly by adding marquis free agents. In order to build a strong house, you need a solid foundation and you build from the bottom up, not from the top down. I hope MadMike reads this article, maybe it will help him chill out a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 good stuff SE-I keep going back to my thinking about the Ty Law debacle-how so many of US thought HE was going to put us over the top.He did catch 10 interceptions but really had no impact-and he cost a lot in terms of money AND his lousy me-first attitude that was spreading like a wildfire in the meeting rooms. The Pats built their championship teams with guys LIKE David Bowens and Tully Banta-Cain and whoever or whatever other mid level SITUATIONAL players we're going to be bringing in.What NE is doing now is Little Bill is turning into a latter day Big Bill with splashy FA signings,and we all know how THAT approach has worked out....stay the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Until I see a championship they are the Same Ol' Jets. But, good article Sperm and I agree to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Sperm hits the nail on the head, as usual. It reinforces the fact that the job by Tangini last year was nothing short of miraculous, despite all the "weak schedule" or "Chad's healthy" naysayers. They are building for the future and aren't ready to get tied down to another long term cap problem player with a short term production potential. Reading that makes me think that this team can improve again this year with the same kind of smart moves they made last year and can over come a tougher schedule and the lack of a marquis superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 A great short history read and a good tale on tale on how the current Jets were and are built. Big picture people, big picture. Remember how this team got to where it did in one short year, and do not become infatuated with big ticket luxury items. Sperm is the man. That article is gold. BUT -- please don't refer to anything he writes as SHORT ever again, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Same ol' Jets, to me, would be paying through the nose money-wise for Leonard Davis or for money AND a high pick for 29 year-old (in August) Thomas Jones. They would be this year's versions of David Barrett & Justin McCareins. Or, like a decade earlier, David Williams & Neil O'Donnell. No one remembers that Kotite-era FA splurge? We just got a franchise superbowl QB (O'Donnell), a pair of bookend tackles (Jumbo & Williams), a 1300-yd WR (Graham), and a bruiser HB (Moore), to go with a still-something-left-in-the-tank players at receiver (Slaughter) and on the DL (Howard). Or so we were told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Same ol' Jets, to me, would be paying through the nose money-wise for Leonard Davis or for money AND a high pick for 29 year-old (in August) Thomas Jones. They would be this year's versions of David Barrett & Justin McCareins. Or, like a decade earlier, David Williams & Neil O'Donnell. No one remembers that Kotite-era FA splurge? We just got a franchise superbowl QB (O'Donnell), a pair of bookend tackles (Jumbo & Williams), a 1300-yd WR (Graham), and a bruiser HB (Moore), to go with a still-something-left-in-the-tank players at receiver (Slaughter) and on the DL (Howard). Or so we were told. That was the one other brief period where the Jets had the "luxury" of big cap space, and they went on a shopping spree. Pieces that didn't fit an overall "plan". If they had one. There are no overnight fixes in football. You earn what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 That was the one other brief period where the Jets had the "luxury" of big cap space, and they went on a shopping spree. Pieces that didn't fit an overall "plan". If they had one. There are no overnight fixes in football. You earn what you get. I would only add to that: unless you fall into stupid luck. Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, Frank Gore, Antonio Gates, and this past year Marques Colston; many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparich Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 This has to be the best "State of the Jets" type article i have read in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I like the Pats' signing of Thomas; he'll be 30 in August, so there's probably 2 good years in front of him. . The Pats see themselves likely losing Banta-Cain(may be here?)But that seems to be the exception. Look at the Skins signing London Fletcher. He's been very productive with the Bills, but he's 31. Reminds me a good deal of the Jets signing fo Sam Cowart-no matter how you cut it, his best years are behind him. Compare that to the Jets being more cautious-better to keep your wallet in your pocket unless you're a player away(which the Pats may think with Thomas), or you can get a player in his late 20s in his prime wihh good years ahead of him. Your roster has to have a core of guys in their 20s, period. For most positions spare DBs and QBs(think Darrell Green of Testaverde-didn't get hit much,stayed in great shape, played into their 40s), these players might be in better shape. But as opposed to the NFL until the late 1970s, they now play a lot of football, and that's a lot of collisions-mandatory minicamps; OTAs, 16-game seasons, playoffs that end in February. As John Kincaid pointed out this morning on ESPN, thse guys probably have played twice as many snaps as did someone back then. All that working out is great, but the body doesn't get any chance to rest. These players are aging more quickly than ever before. Even if the difference of 2 years between Thomas's 7 seasons and Fletcher's 9 is much bigger than it looks. It's why some teams like the Jets will go forward and teams like the Cowboys(roster bonuses to Terry Glenn and TO?) and Skins signing old guys every year are gonna fall back. ABove all, we're now run by guys who understand all this. Thye'll only sign someone thye think can be productive for the money. I'm sure they liked Thomas and aren't happy he'llbe with the Pats. But there's a plan in place that's being followed and works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I don't like to give posters on this board THAT much credit...you know b/c Im cynical like that. However, credit where credit is due, this is one of the best articles I have read on the Jets and their followers, period. That includes every national media outlet out there, you did a great job sperm (not the first time in my life I've said "you've done a great job sperm). While I never would utter same ol jets when thinking of the Tangini administration I have found myself dissapointed in their lack of free agency activity until I was reminded what the mission of this new administration is. While I would have liked them to be more active, I remember where we were and where we are now and will continue to trust these guys. Anyway, point is that was a well written, well argued article sperm....good job and hope to see more of it in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Great read Sperm,it was right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34st GANG Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Well put, Very well put. We will live or die with the mid level players both draft and FA. When we are one player away we will have the money to pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjam76 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 They did trade for Barlow, who was a waste of a 4th round draft choice and now he's gone. Who knows if what they are doing will bring a championship. Last year was great, but it wasn't miraculous. They were blown out in the wildcard game to the Pats. Maybe this year will be different, but until I see consistent results, I'm not sold everything they do is right.. Because there have been plenty of one year wonders in the NFL. This upcoming season for me is a huge one. If they wind up 8-8 or 7-9 I'm not sold that they did anything special. People will blab about progress and a tougher schedule, but the fact is, if they wind up with that kind of record next season you really can't say it is a step in the right direction. If they go 10-6 and lose in the wildcard game again, hey at least they made the playoffs, but are the progressing? Progress to me is moving forward and for all intensive purposes they did a great job of using what they had, but can they build on that with new draft picks and free agent signings? I mean Nick Mangold was a great pick and Washington showed something near the end of the year, but most of the other people they brought it, including DBRick, weren't anything to brag about. Maybe DBRick will improve, but there is no gurantee of that. So while I like the things they did, I'm not sold on the fact that they are "gold" on picking talent. I mean everybody still thinks the Jets have NO REAL TALENT and how great a job Mangini did with what little he had last year. Well if they go into next season with the same "Little Talent" that's not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I never said Barlow was a FA. It was trade value I don't care to repeat. Keep our draft picks; they are the only relative bargains left in the NFL. By the way, what's the difference between all "intensive" purposes and what defines them as being such, or differs them from being unintensive ones? I suppose, for all intents and purposes, that you still got your message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Barton hates NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Very well written article, and to the point. Stay the Course!! Add missing pieces, not splashy signings. Spermy, you should have a weekly syndicated column in all the NY papers, on Jets Football. It would be a fabulous read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baamf Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Good read, thanks !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Barton hates NY? I forget where I read that, but it was fairly recently. Something about him being a "west coast" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I'm gonna wait & read it when it comes out on another site for 55$ expensive content has to be better than free stuff imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I'm gonna wait & read it when it comes out on another site for 55$ expensive content has to be better than free stuff imo. POTW NOM POTM NOM POTY NOM!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 All the crying this week had made me wonder one thing. Same `ol jets? Or same `ol Jets fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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