Smizzy Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 He is better than any RB on the market right now. Would you trade on of our 2nd rd picks for Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I consider myself to be a pretty rational guy... but if our FO trades one of our second rounders for Jones I am walking the plank with madmike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 He is better than any RB on the market right now. Would you trade on of our 2nd rd picks for Jones? No. He's 29 and that's old for a RB plus we can get an RB in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustoonarmy Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Yes I would. We are going to need a vet RB come the season start. Thomas Jones age does not bother me , he will be good for about 2-3 years in which time we can hopefully draft/aquire our new franchise back. We need to be patient in this rebuilding. Making knee jerk signings is not something I would expect from Mangini and Tannenbaum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thomas Jones would be a stop gap player for us and no more. If we are going to get a stop gap, let it be through free agency and not by wasting a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Him being better than any other RB out there on the market is your opinion Smizz. That being said, most likely, yes, I would give up one of our two 2nd round picks for TJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thomas Jones would be a stop gap player for us and no more. If we are going to get a stop gap, let it be through free agency and not by wasting a draft pick. Bingo. A rebuilding team does not throw a 2nd-round draft pick AND a big contract at a player with maybe 3 years left at best. It's not like he's got 3 years left to continue getting 5+ yards per carry and double-digit TD's (mars he has never reached). Jones is good. But he also appears better because of playing on a good team with a weak schedule. Other than a single solid game against Baltimore a year & a half ago, what good rush defense has he ripped to shreds in his entire career? As a full-time starter on a solid team in a weak conference, here is what you can expect from Thomas Jones: 4.0 to 4.1 ypc. Will he make our ground game solid vs top run-defenses? Well, Minnesota (by far the #1 rush defense last year) is in Chicago's division. They gave up 2.83 ypc against everyone. Thomas Jones? 2.87 ypc (86 yards on 30 carries in two games). And don't forget that he surrendered a handful of short-yardage carries (which usually only lowers a RB's ypc) to Cedric Benson. He ain't all that some are making him out to be. I'd rather take a CB or lineman or DE/OLB 'tweener with size & speed there. Let's say that the pick we trade away turns into a starter at DE like Justin Harrell. You'd trade that away, along with an additional $15M in cap space, to get Thomas Jones and his 4.1 ypc vs mostly lousy teams for a couple of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I'd rather have Rhodes, Green or Duckett AND my 2nd rounder than Jones and no 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Henry and Lamont are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Whens the last time a RB got traded for a 2nd round pick? RBs are the easiest positions to fill. And Thomas Jones (solid not stud) is a 2 year stop gap anyway....why waste a 2nd rounder for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 This is why I wouldn't trade for Thomas. He is 29 and starting to get a little old for a runningback. It would be better for us to trade for a young talented runningback so we could build him to be a everydown back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I'd rather have Rhodes, Green or Duckett AND my 2nd rounder than Jones and no 2nd rounder. Right. Is everyone blind to what a dollar-for-dollar value discrepancy there is for draft picks (particularly after the top 5-10 picks) compared to other high draft picks? Take a look at two OLmen: Eric Steinbach: $7M/year - good but far from great lineman Nick Mangold: $2M/year - will be an annual superstar for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Bingo. A rebuilding team does not throw a 2nd-round draft pick AND a big contract at a player with maybe 3 years left at best. It's not like he's got 3 years left to continue getting 5+ yards per carry and double-digit TD's (mars he has never reached). Jones is good. But he also appears better because of playing on a good team with a weak schedule. Other than a single solid game against Baltimore a year & a half ago, what good rush defense has he ripped to shreds in his entire career? As a full-time starter on a solid team in a weak conference, here is what you can expect from Thomas Jones: 4.0 to 4.1 ypc. Will he make our ground game solid vs top run-defenses? Well, Minnesota (by far the #1 rush defense last year) is in Chicago's division. They gave up 2.83 ypc against everyone. Thomas Jones? 2.87 ypc (86 yards on 30 carries in two games). And don't forget that he surrendered a handful of short-yardage carries (which usually only lowers a RB's ypc) to Cedric Benson. He ain't all that some are making him out to be. I'd rather take a CB or lineman or DE/OLB 'tweener with size & speed there. Let's say that the pick we trade away turns into a starter at DE like Justin Harrell. You'd trade that away, along with an additional $15M in cap space, to get Thomas Jones and his 4.1 ypc vs mostly lousy teams for a couple of years? I'd like to see jets Draft 1.Blalock 2.Justin Harrell 2nd 2. either top DE or CB 3 and on. BPA I still think they will bring in via FA DB, RB, and DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thomas Jones is an all around back.He would fit this system perfectly.He comes to play week after week and puts up some decent numbers. I WANT THOMAS JONES AND JOEY PORTER IN A JETS UNIFORM FOR 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 38 PICK NO 59 PICK YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I consider myself to be a pretty rational guy... but if our FO trades one of our second rounders for Jones I am walking the plank with madmike. Argghhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Smizzy did u know they was in talks to trading?? if so how did u know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Smizzy did u know they was in talks to trading?? if so how did u know? We can't reveal our sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 You gave me a negative rep for my answer? LOL...you gotta be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 You gave me a negative rep for my answer? LOL...you gotta be kidding me. No i didnt.. if i did i didnt mean too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 im pretty sure it was possitive.. cuz i didnt click any button i jus clicked add to reputation.. so check again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Argghhh! Looking back at the trade now I think we could be worse off. We did get a second rounder back so we still have two... I'm not sure I think Im going to remain neutral on this one... We definitely could have done better but also could have done much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 im pretty sure it was possitive.. cuz i didnt click any button i jus clicked add to reputation.. so check again.. I will live! No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I will live! No worries. i really didnt though,...maybe since i have a reall lowww rep .. it didnt show up as green So maybe u should give me some greeen..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 So maybe u should give me some greeen..lol You got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Man, I must be a loser, I have no reputation at all. I am teh noobsauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
914-ny Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Man, I must be a loser, I have no reputation at all. I am teh noobsauce. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Man, I must be a loser, I have no reputation at all. I am teh noobsauce. 1 post once every other month doesn't go a long way towrds rep points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 1 post once every other month doesn't go a long way towrds rep points. I'm sure I'm missed, lawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm sure I'm missed, lawl. Everytime you leave I feel so used and alone. You won't break my heart this time Warfish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Thomas Jones for a swap of 2nd rounders is not that bad of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 No No and thrice no. Solid citizen. Unspectacular without any evidence of take-it-to-the-house talent. Given his age and contract status and given the fact that he is coming from a superbowl team he will command more dollars than he is actually worth. Then there is that tasty #37 pick we are shipping off for him. Geez... it is Curtis "never-show-up-in-a-big-game" Martin all over again. This has all the sniff of a pure reaction move on the part of the front office after seeing Lamont Jordan and Travis Henry come off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Everytime you leave I feel so used and alone. You won't break my heart this time Warfish! Lol, nice. I must admit, I DO miss the Smizz whilst hanging at JI, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Lol, nice. I must admit, I DO miss the Smizz whilst hanging at JI, no doubt. That Message board is a complete mess. Yesterday alone....mid day... there were 4 threads on the same subject and 14 OT's...How anybody would want to sift thru any of that crap just to read real Jets news is beyond me. Sooth has a Camera and is friends with Slingblade. Cool. Other than that...that place leaves a lot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 never show up in a big game? ummm was it me or did TJ have a nice post season this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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