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Jets | Jets to bring in veteran QB

Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:38:01 -0800

Tom Rock, of Newsday, reports the New York Jets will probably bring in a veteran QB who can act as a mentor and push QB Kellen Clemens from the No. 3 spot. Unrestricted free-agent QB Vinny Testaverde (Patriots) is one possibility.

Greengal, I hate you. After all this time telling MadMike that no news is good news you have to prove us right.

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Vinny is dead to me for signing with New England midway through last season.

That being said, he didn't win a ring there and I'd gladly welcome him back as a mentor to Kellen. Hey, if Chad had an arm and could stay healthy Vinny's words and mentoring really could have payed off full fledge.

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Vinny Testaverde and Kerry Collins were big, stupid qbs with cannons. They were also turnover machines. It makes no sense to hire guys like that to "mentor" a young player. That's like signing Jeff George as a "mentor." Chad is a great mentor. Probably much better mentor than player. If they bring one of those 2 in it's as a emergency if something happens to Chad. Not the least likely emergency.

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Vinny Testaverde and Kerry Collins were big, stupid qbs with cannons. They were also turnover machines. It makes no sense to hire guys like that to "mentor" a young player. That's like signing Jeff George as a "mentor." Chad is a great mentor. Probably much better mentor than player. If they bring one of those 2 in it's as a emergency if something happens to Chad. Not the least likely emergency.
If thats true, it's an admission that they flushed a 2nd round pick.
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Wait. Which thread is this? ;)

Brad Smith is so smart and picks up offense so quick that he seemlessly took over the #3 wr role. There will be no problem with him picking up an intricate audible based offense over this off-season in addition to his wr and trick plays position.

Hey, he was fun to watch against the Eagles in the 4th Preseason game... isn't that enough?:)

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Brad Smith.;-)

Not sure if your serious or not... but I really think he is a realistic option at #3 for us.

Brad Smith - 2005 college stats

2304 yards throwing - 13 TDs - 114 QB rating

1301 yards rushing - 16 TDs

Kellen Clemens - 2005 college stats

2406 yards throwing - 19 TD's - 153 QB rating

228 yards rushing - 0 TD's

Obviously Kellen is the better QB, he is more accurate, stronger, smarter ect... but Smith can get the job done if needed IMO

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Just throwing this out there....as mike in particular, and others, talked about the SI journalists just assuming things, thats exactly what this is. He doesn't even say the Jets have been in contact with him, he's speculating by saying Vinny would be a good fit. Just saying..

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Vinny Testaverde and Kerry Collins were big, stupid qbs with cannons. They were also turnover machines. It makes no sense to hire guys like that to "mentor" a young player. That's like signing Jeff George as a "mentor." Chad is a great mentor. Probably much better mentor than player. If they bring one of those 2 in it's as a emergency if something happens to Chad. Not the least likely emergency.

Wasn't Chad at his best when Vinny was mentoring him & helping him out on the sideline? And Collins I think blew Chad away on his Wonderlic, as long as "stupid" is the word being used to describe him. I knew some people who knew him & he is a lunkhead. What that says about Chad, I don't really know. But it isn't flattering.

How smart do you have to be to get half wrong on your wonderlic?

How smart do you have to be to insist that Paul Hackett is a good OC?

How smart do you have to be to try to lecture the NY media?

How smart do you have to be to never learn how to move up in the pocket?

How smart do you have to be to wait an extra 3 weeks to go on vacation before getting your necessary shoulder surgery; one which will require 7-8 months of rehab (at least) so you may better serve the organization that has paid you so handsomely by the start of the season?

How smart do you have to be to realize that all those millions he's made means he doesn't have to get his hair done at "Great Cuts 8 Bucks" anymore?

How smart do you have to be to listen to & watch Herm Edwards for 5 years and still insist he's a good coach?

And he makes a TON of stupid, stupid decisions on the field. He gets credit for being WAY smarter than he is around here.

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Wasn't Chad at his best when Vinny was mentoring him & helping him out on the sideline? And Collins I think blew Chad away on his Wonderlic, as long as "stupid" is the word being used to describe him. I knew some people who knew him & he is a lunkhead. What that says about Chad, I don't really know. But it isn't flattering.

How smart do you have to be to get half wrong on your wonderlic?

How smart do you have to be to insist that Paul Hackett is a good OC?

How smart do you have to be to try to lecture the NY media?

How smart do you have to be to never learn how to move up in the pocket?

How smart do you have to be to wait an extra 3 weeks to go on vacation before getting your necessary shoulder surgery; one which will require 7-8 months of rehab (at least) so you may better serve the organization that has paid you so handsomely by the start of the season?

How smart do you have to be to realize that all those millions he's made means he doesn't have to get his hair done at "Great Cuts 8 Bucks" anymore?

How smart do you have to be to listen to & watch Herm Edwards for 5 years and still insist he's a good coach?

And he makes a TON of stupid, stupid decisions on the field. He gets credit for being WAY smarter than he is around here.

I think you should be our QB... lol

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Wasn't Chad at his best when Vinny was mentoring him & helping him out on the sideline? And Collins I think blew Chad away on his Wonderlic, as long as "stupid" is the word being used to describe him. I knew some people who knew him & he is a lunkhead. What that says about Chad, I don't really know. But it isn't flattering.

How smart do you have to be to get half wrong on your wonderlic?

How smart do you have to be to insist that Paul Hackett is a good OC?

How smart do you have to be to try to lecture the NY media?

How smart do you have to be to never learn how to move up in the pocket?

How smart do you have to be to wait an extra 3 weeks to go on vacation before getting your necessary shoulder surgery; one which will require 7-8 months of rehab (at least) so you may better serve the organization that has paid you so handsomely by the start of the season?

How smart do you have to be to realize that all those millions he's made means he doesn't have to get his hair done at "Great Cuts 8 Bucks" anymore?

How smart do you have to be to listen to & watch Herm Edwards for 5 years and still insist he's a good coach?

And he makes a TON of stupid, stupid decisions on the field. He gets credit for being WAY smarter than he is around here.

Still only $8!!! My Mom says he's the only player in the league that looks better with helmet head. You're questioning Chad's intelligence for towing the company line and never saying anything bad about a teammate or coach. It's true that may be dumb, but it's what Mangini is looking for. The player that will run through a wall for his coach is not the smartest, but he is the coaches favorite.

Chad makes a ton of dumb mistakes on the field? I don't really agree, but Wonderlic or not, compared to Kerry Collins he's a genius. 72 tds & 46 ints career. Compared to Collins 174 td & 172 ints. That's not too bad, but factor in fumbles. Pennington fumbled 30 times in his career. Collins fumbled 121 times! Ten a year! Sure he didn't lose them all, but you can't convince me that Fassel was teaching Tiki and Collins to fumble. Some of that is on him.

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Still only $8!!! My Mom says he's the only player in the league that looks better with helmet head.

Your mom is most likely correct... lol - niether of them look very good though... lol

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Still only $8!!! My Mom says he's the only player in the league that looks better with helmet head. You're questioning Chad's intelligence for towing the company line and never saying anything bad about a teammate or coach. It's true that may be dumb, but it's what Mangini is looking for. The player that will run through a wall for his coach is not the smartest, but he is the coaches favorite.

Chad makes a ton of dumb mistakes on the field? I don't really agree, but Wonderlic or not, compared to Kerry Collins he's a genius. 72 tds & 46 ints career. Compared to Collins 174 td & 172 ints. That's not too bad, but factor in fumbles. Pennington fumbled 30 times in his career. Collins fumbled 121 times! Ten a year! Sure he didn't lose them all, but you can't convince me that Fassel was teaching Tiki and Collins to fumble. Some of that is on him.

lol

Maybe Fassel WAS teaching them to fumble!

This wasn't a "Collins is brilliant" post. Friends of mine live in Charlotte & used to hang out at a bar he went to a lot. He is about as sharp as a sphere...and handily beat Pennington on an intelligence test.

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Jets | Jets to bring in veteran QB

Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:38:01 -0800

Tom Rock, of Newsday, reports the New York Jets will probably bring in a veteran QB who can act as a mentor and push QB Kellen Clemens from the No. 3 spot. Unrestricted free-agent QB Vinny Testaverde (Patriots) is one possibility.

I thought somebody bump this thread from 18 months ago. A mentor? That

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lol

Maybe Fassel WAS teaching them to fumble!

This wasn't a "Collins is brilliant" post. Friends of mine live in Charlotte & used to hang out at a bar he went to a lot. He is about as sharp as a sphere...and handily beat Pennington on an intelligence test.

So Chad cant handle pressure... oh **** nevermind.. lol

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