Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 That has been signed that actually fills an improtant need for us (no LB is not a real need right now), and is actually worth the money they received. Just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 That has been signed that actually fills an improtant need for us (no LB is not a real need right now), and is actually worth the money they received. Just one. I agree,, this years free agent crop is lukewarm at best.. I hear 2008 will be a bumper crop,,i say jets go thru draft, get role players in free agency or vet cap cut day in june and then save bulk of money for 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 That has been signed that actually fills an improtant need for us (no LB is not a real need right now), and is actually worth the money they received. Just one. I can't name a free agent deal that is actually worth the $$$ for any team, except maybe thomas, even those who signed these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Boozer-You nailed it in an earlier thread-This is a sucker's year for Free Agency. With all the excess cash teams are flush with, most teams were able to sign their own. Not many great players flooded the market. Other teams have figured out the mantra-sign your own-and were afforded the luxury of doing so. The players that have hit, with a few exceptions, are going to get overpaid in a cash rich market. Not a great way to operate within, unless you have very specific needs and the want to pay high market prices. When the wash of the new deal begins to lessen increases on the cap, some teams will be paying (again) for frivolous ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I would have liked Nate Clements but not after I saw the truckload of cash he got from SF...I mean I think he's good but not THAT good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 I would have liked Nate Clements but not after I saw the truckload of cash he got from SF...I mean I think he's good but not THAT good I liked Clements. But he got moeny in the realm of Champ Bailey, and he isn't even close to being that good. Signing him for that kind of money means less money to use towards positions that are a dire need for us, such at DL, OL, RB and FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Let's not delude ourselves-The Jets are not one or 2 players away from a Super Bowl. What they are, is a number of players away from a sloid foundation to build upon. They have shown the want to build that foundation with THEIR guys, and deserve the luxury to do so. If this year is an abysmal showing, with no progress relatively being made, then the questions of their operation mode can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 at the same time I think it is not fair to assume the jets will have the same type of draft results as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 at the same time I think it is not fair to assume the jets will have the same type of draft results as last year. What does that have to do with anything? you're saying they should overpay for FA's at luxury positions they don't have a dire need for simply for the sake that they won't have as good a draft as last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I guess one can make a case that there ARE players who would improve the team-I'll name 3 Bowens,Banta-Cain,Travis Henry and even Corey Dillon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 i don't understand how teams (especially the pats) can pay so much $$ for these free agents. they gave thomas the same $ as seymour and they chose not to give samuel a long-term deal. samuel, warren, and wilfork are now going to want similar deals to thomas who is 30. how about offering welker the same deal branch wanted? all of these FA deals are going to sew the seeds of discontent in pats land. on paper they are a better team but much of their success can be attributed to harmony in the locker room which may be eroding as a result of these signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Always keep in mind that in FA, what you give to one position you take away from another. Travis Henry would help at HB. Would he help at HB more than a draftee and $6M+/yr in cap room for the next 4+ years that could otherwise be spread elsewhere? Maybe, maybe not. But once you sign up for it, you can't erase it. Particularly not with the $12M+ he's seeking as a SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 I guess one can make a case that there ARE players who would improve the team-I'll name 3 Bowens,Banta-Cain,Travis Henry and even Corey Dillon Bowens-I agree he would help. Banta Cain-I view him more as a luxury, same as A Thomas. I really don't see a need to find a LB unless we are trading away Vilma. Henry-I just don't see why, he's the same size as Washington, much more expensive, and one chance away from a lifetime ban. Dillon-Wouldn't mind him, but at his age and cost, and given what we'd be using him for, I think we can get a younger, cheaper, and better version of him through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Boozer do not feel obligated to read into my thoughts. My comment is pretty basic..I have never said overpay for free agents but at the same time I do not think it is fair to assume that the Jets are going to hit the jackpot every year in the draft. Last year's free agent class was average at best and this year's looks to be the same. The Jets are not one player away and the roster needs to be upgraded to add some "gamebreakers". The question is how are they going to do it. I get tired of the hearing how the Jets are following the Pats mold when there is one major problem..the Jets do not have Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Boozer do not feel obligated to read into my thoughts. My comment is pretty basic..I have never said overpay for free agents but at the same time I do not think it is fair to assume that the Jets are going to hit the jackpot every year in the draft. Last year's free agent class was average at best and this year's looks to be the same. The Jets are not one player away and the roster needs to be upgraded to add some "gamebreakers". The question is how are they going to do it. I get tired of the hearing how the Jets are following the Pats mold when there is one major problem..the Jets do not have Brady i'm not disagreeing with your premise, I just don't see how it applies to the topic of this thread. When you state we are not going to have as good a draft as last year in a thread regarding what FA's actually fill needs of ours at a fair price, one can only assume you feel we should be overpaying for unnecessary FA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Bowens-I agree he would help. Banta Cain-I view him more as a luxury, same as A Thomas. I really don't see a need to find a LB unless we are trading away Vilma. Henry-I just don't see why, he's the same size as Washington, much more expensive, and one chance away from a lifetime ban. Dillon-Wouldn't mind him, but at his age and cost, and given what we'd be using him for, I think we can get a younger, cheaper, and better version of him through the draft. I'm just saying guys that would help not necessarily players I would want TB-C-I think we ARE moving Vilma and you know what B-76 he had 5.5 times the number of sacks that Vilma had-just saying Henry-too high priced-pass Dillon-if he could do here what he did up there last year 13 TDs 200 carries 800 plus yards and 48 first downs? FORTY EIGHT!!!!Damn RIGHT I want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Boozer do not feel obligated to read into my thoughts. My comment is pretty basic..I have never said overpay for free agents but at the same time I do not think it is fair to assume that the Jets are going to hit the jackpot every year in the draft. Last year's free agent class was average at best and this year's looks to be the same. The Jets are not one player away and the roster needs to be upgraded to add some "gamebreakers". The question is how are they going to do it. I get tired of the hearing how the Jets are following the Pats mold when there is one major problem..the Jets do not have Brady The Pats lucked into Brady. They didn't go after him in FA. I have yet to see a team with so many holes go nuts in overpaying for free agents and get a ring as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The Pats lucked into Brady. They didn't go after him in FA. I have yet to see a team with so many holes go nuts in overpaying for free agents and get a ring as a result. THE CASE MIGHT BE MADE FOR WHEN GREEN BAY SIGNED REGGIE WHITE sorry about the caps-fat finger syndrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 With money that is being thrown around this year I'm okay with Mangini and Tannenbaum sitting back and waiting. There are still some guys out there and the longer they are out the more the price is going to drop. Even if they don't come up with a big name FA there is still the draft and there will be more guys getting released as Cap Casualties. There is still a long time to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 again with the over paying which at times goes hand and hand with free agency. There will be times that you may have to pay more than you want to get a player that can make a difference. It could be giving up a draft pick or whatever. Hell go after some restricted free agents... but each year teams have a chance to win and to say will we spend the money better in 2008 is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 again with the over paying which at times goes hand and hand with free agency. There will be times that you may have to pay more than you want to get a player that can make a difference. It could be giving up a draft pick or whatever. Hell go after some restricted free agents... but each year teams have a chance to win and to say will we spend the money better in 2008 is just stupid. Overpaying for a desperate need that fills a glaring hole is one thing, overpaying for a guy that gives us only marginal improvement at a position we really don't need to upgrade is plain silly. Put it this way, if Jamaal Williams hit the market somehow I fully demand us to do whatever it takes to get him, including overpaying. He changes the face of our D. A Thomas and Nate Clements do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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