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Are the Yankees f'n crazy?

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The yankees do a REALLY REALLY bad job with these contract extentions for home grown players. And it causes them to spend MUCH more money down the road.

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They will take chances in Arbitration for a year then give em the money

And by doing so they will cost themselves millions.

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You can't say that.

If they are the real deal, they will get the money anyway.

if you sign a young player to a long contract extension, and then he gets hurt, what have you cost your franchise then?

Just the way baseball works.

Yes I can say that because the yankees ALWAYS do this. And it ALWAYS costs them much more money then it should. If they would've signed Jeter a year earlier it would've cost them 117 million not 192. If they would've signed Bernie a year earlier it would've cost them 55 million not 86. And on and on. They should've signed rivera 2 years ago and now he's gonna cost them at least 15 per. If they would've taken care of Pettitte then he wouldn't have went to houston. The yankees do a historically bad job with contracts.

The yankees should be doing with Cano and Wang what teams like the Mets and Indians have done with their young players.

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They are. Reyes and Wright waited for their payday also.

The point is that the Mets signed those guys during their arbitration years before they had a chance to hit free agency. Thats something the yankees don't do and it ends up costing them a lot of money.

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It would probably cost 24 million to get him right now, so if it cost 28-30 million after the season, it is not a big deal to the Yankees. Same with the Bosox and Schilling. Smart move by both FO.

Mo should be signed now. It's going to cost them alot more at the end of the year and lets say he gets hurt and misses the season you don't think the yankees will bring him back ANYWAY? Also he's shown ZERO signs of being on the decline and is in great shape in comparison to schilling who HAS shown clear decline and is out of shape.

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It won't cost them more then 28-30 over 2 years. Watch and see.

If MO gets hurt, it will scare off most of his other potential suitors. The cost for the Yankees will actually be less in that senario.

SO now you're gonna nickel and dime the guy who has been the CORE of this team for 10 years? They have been underpaying him for YEARS.

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Are you paying a player based on past performance, or are you paying him on future expectations?
Both. And this is a special case.

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Excellent point SD. Not all fans are smart enough to see the logic being applied by the Yankees here. You don't pay guys for what they've done in the past. The Yanks will get Mo signed if he proves himself worth signing. I know, a tough concept for jonny come lately, know nothing fans but a sound approach by the Yankees FO.

So risk alienating one of the most important players on the team to save a few million bucks when the yankees piss that money away every day on crap. Thats smart.

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He's a grown man, not a little boy who feels alienated looking for a hug. He'll get his money and life will go on. Anybody worrying about this non-issue right now should find something else to be concerned with.

Thats a foolish rational. The REALITY is that for baseball players money = respect. Why would the yankees want this guy to feel disrespected?

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The real bottom line is that no one else will outbid teh Yankees for Mos services, if the Yankees want him.

And MO wants the Yankees. He lives in Westchester YEAR ROUND, not just during the season. He just opened a restaurant nearby, and has plans for 2 more within a year or so. And he has a burning desire to pitch in a Yankee uniform in the new stadium in 2009.

He will be here if the Yankees want him. Money (read that - respect) will not be an issue.

And for all those who say he was underpaid all these past years, after 2007 MO will have received over $84,000,000.00 in salary since 1995, from the Yankees. Not exactly a lack of respect, nor an underpayment.

If they are set to pay him whatever he wants then why the hell are they waiting? Sign him now and make this a non story. Don't make this guy hang in the wind. When he's a 1st ballot hall of famer and one of the biggest reason for this yankee run, he shouldn't have to make the same money as Carl Pavano. Mo is the 8th highest paid yankee when he is either the most or 2nd most important player on the team thats showing him a lack of respect.

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Baseball is first and foremost, a business. It does not exist to have friendly get togethers and back slapping moments where everyone feels good about themsleves, and about the job they do everyday.

Rivera is under contract. For a contract theat he agreed to. The Yankees are under NO obligation to negotiate a new contract with him before his contract is up. Rivera is under no obligation to re-sign with the Yankees.

A business decision. Happens all the time.

I never said they were under an obligation. I just said they should take take of him. You know whats good business? taking care of your most productive employees.

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You mean the yankees should give him the 2 year deal at say, 25 million total, right now. And let's say that he gets a rotor cuff injury on April 2, 2007, in the opener? What kind of smart signing was that?

Even worse, let's say they give himn teh extension, and he gets hurt in Sept. 2007, same injury. Then he misses 2 post seasons, when he really earns his money and reputation, and will be 39 when he comes back in 2009.

No thanks. Not a smart move at all. Sign him after he shows he still is healthy. The gamble is well worth it.

You'd be LUCKY if he took 2 years 25 million. The yankees should sign him to that YESTERDAY if he'll accept it.

Even if he DOES get hurt this year the yankees will still bring him back for 08.

Major league contracts are insured. If he does have a career ending injury the yankees will get most of the money back anyway.

This is NOT the player to get cheap with.

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If he gets a rotor cuff injury in Sept. 2007, they may bring him back, but it will be for a Lieber type contract, where the Yankees can walk away after 1 year if he does not recover. And the salary for that 1 year will be like 2-3 million.

No thanks. Don't offer anything now.

P.S. - 25 million gets it done now. 28-30 will get it done after the season.

Bank on it.

No chance he gets a 2-3 million dollar contract even after he's been hurt. NO CHANCE. Gagne missed 2 YEARS and he just got 7 million. 25 million for 2 years is a NO BRAINER.

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Mike, You will realize this once you venture out in the real world-That is fairy tale wishing. Good luck with that.

This is baseball not the real world. Regular working stiff has no other options. Mo rivera does.

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How exactly are "working stiffs" not available to options in their career? Huh?

You know what, if Rivera blows his arm out today, he gets paid his full salary.

And the yankees get that money back from the insurance. Whats your point.

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Do they have a policy on Rivera? The majority of contracts don't have policies, as I understand them.

The majority DO have policies.

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What is the insurance on Mariano?

I know know the exact policy but i do know that if the yankees signed him and he got hurt they would recoup some of that money. (they should sign him even without a policy anyway.)

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