Scott Dierking Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Patriots acquired Wes Welker for second and seventh-round draft picks. A long term deal has been agreed to, but is undisclosed. The $39 million figure that was floated for Welker's proposed offer sheet probably included a lot of phony money and years. Since the two teams dealt directly, it won't be necessary to pay Welker so much or so creatively. Welker provides the Patriots a versatile receiver who stands a good chance at starting. He'll also return punts. Don't be surprised if Welker's solid 2006 numbers improve. Mar. 5 - 5:05 pm et Source: SI.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Patriots acquired Wes Welker for second and seventh-round draft picks. A long term deal has been agreed to, but is undisclosed. The $39 million figure that was floated for Welker's proposed offer sheet probably included a lot of phony money and years. Since the two teams dealt directly, it won't be necessary to pay Welker so much or so creatively. Welker provides the Patriots a versatile receiver who stands a good chance at starting. He'll also return punts. Don't be surprised if Welker's solid 2006 numbers improve. Mar. 5 - 5:05 pm et Source: SI.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Wow. New England still has 2 1st round picks in which they can pick-up another WR or they could still trade for Randy Moss or sign Donte Stallworth. The Pats continue to get better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'brickMangoldJets Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Wow. New England still has 2 1st round picks in which they can pick-up another WR or they could still trade for Randy Moss or sign Donte Stallworth. The Pats continue to get better and better. Good let them become the oppisite of everything that made them great. I'm loving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 They appear to be wanting to go out in a blaze of glory here. Bundling all their eggs in these next 2 seasons. I think there is something to be made of the Belichick riding off into the sunset scenario some what soon. we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 wow wes welker. I'm shaking in my boots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 They appear to be wanting to go out in a blaze of glory here. Bundling all their eggs in these next 2 seasons. I think there is something to be made of the Belichick riding off into the sunset scenario some what soon. we shall see. I don't know if Belichick is ready to ride off into the sunset just yet but losing to the Colts really sent him off the deep end. Looks to me like he has no intention of taking any prisoners this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 wow wes welker. I'm shaking in my boots! he fits their scheme really well, has good hands, quick. he's much better than cladwell, and gaffney. Drafting a WR early second last year, picking up welker...chances of signing moss seem less and less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 When the Pats go 12-4, 13-3 or 14-2 this season and the Jets are 7-9 and all of you are jumping off the deep end we should bring this thread back up when you all said that all the Patriot signings were no biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The fins tried to trade him and couldnt. Now they get a 2d and 7th. They have a bunch of picks they are stockpiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Good let them become the oppisite of everything that made them great. I'm loving this. The Pats are signing players to address specific needs. They will also do that in the Draft. I don't see how that is the "opposite of everything that made the great." With the way the schedule is nowadays the Pats and Jets have the same schedule with the exception of these games: The Pats host San Diego (14-2 in 2006). The Pats visit Indy (12-4 in 2006, SB Champs). The Jets host Kansas City (9-7 in 2006). The Jets visit Tennessee (8-8 in 2006). That is a major advantage for the Jets who just happened to finish 2 games behind the Pats last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 The Pats are signing players to address specific needs. They will also do that in the Draft. I don't see how that is the "opposite of everything that made the great." With the way the schedule is nowadays the Pats and Jets have the same schedule with the exception of these games: The Pats host San Diego (14-2 in 2006). The Pats visit Indy (12-4 in 2006, SB Champs). The Jets host Kansas City (9-7 in 2006). The Jets visit Tennessee (8-8 in 2006). That is a major advantage for the Jets who just happened to finish 2 games behind the Pats last season. Great points Gainzo. The Patriots have spent money on FAs in the past. People focus on Deon, but they went after Derrick Mason, who took less money to sign with Baltimore and landed Rosevelt Colvin to an expensive contract. Belichick has not set aside his team management beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sorry, but a 2nd round pick, and a throw away 7th rounder, is too much to pay for a slot reciever/KR. Plus, I've had enough with the shorties at wide out. I 'dunno - he reminds me of Tom Dwight, for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sorry, but a 2nd round pick, and a throw away 7th rounder, is too much to pay for a slot reciever/KR. Plus, I've had enough with the shorties at wide out. I 'dunno - he reminds me of Tom Dwight, for obvious reasons. He reminds me of a young Troy Brown. Welker is 5-9, Troy is 5-10. What was your point again about "shorties" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sorry, but a 2nd round pick, and a throw away 7th rounder, is too much to pay for a slot reciever/KR. Plus, I've had enough with the shorties at wide out. I 'dunno - he reminds me of Tom Dwight, for obvious reasons. Or Troy Brown maybe? An undrafted rookie FA that earns himself a job. Then as a sophmore leads a team in receiving with a handful of players the team has alot more invested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sorry, but a 2nd round pick, and a throw away 7th rounder, is too much to pay for a slot reciever/KR. Plus, I've had enough with the shorties at wide out. I 'dunno - he reminds me of Tom Dwight, for obvious reasons. Who's Tom Dwight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sorry, but a 2nd round pick, and a throw away 7th rounder, is too much to pay for a slot reciever/KR. Plus, I've had enough with the shorties at wide out. I 'dunno - he reminds me of Tom Dwight, for obvious reasons. Get used to it Garb, I am convinced that our offense just doesn't require 6'3" receivers. It's pointless to have deep threats when Brady overthrows them by 5 yds. anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 The real Welker deal: 5 years, $18.1 million, $10 million in guarentees. Supposedly the 7 years, $39 million was a contract they were prepared to offer that would be HEAVILY backloaded to scare Miami off of re-signing him. Good job by the Pats' FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Patriots acquired Wes Welker for second and seventh-round draft picks. A long term deal has been agreed to, but is undisclosed. The $39 million figure that was floated for Welker's proposed offer sheet probably included a lot of phony money and years. Since the two teams dealt directly, it won't be necessary to pay Welker so much or so creatively. Welker provides the Patriots a versatile receiver who stands a good chance at starting. He'll also return punts. Don't be surprised if Welker's solid 2006 numbers improve. Mar. 5 - 5:05 pm et Source: SI.com NE has lost their minds, a 2nd rd pick wasn't good enough to give up now they have to give up a 7th too? for a #3 WR and below average return man? Keep it up NE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 NE has lost their minds, a 2nd rd pick wasn't good enough to give up now they have to give up a 7th too? for a #3 WR and below average return man? Keep it up NE! A seventh rounder isn't much to give up to have the contract go from $39M to $18M. The questions are, why would Miami be scared off by "phony money" and why would Welker to along with it? I assume both employ people capable of reading contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Donte Stallworth is in rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 A seventh rounder isn't much to give up to have the contract go from $39M to $18M. The questions are, why would Miami be scared off by "phony money" and why would Welker to along with it? I assume both employ people capable of reading contracts. $39 to 18 is irrlevant, that contract was backloaded and he never would have seen that money. The guaranteed money is the issue and giving up a 2 and guaranteed $10 mil is way too much for Wes Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I'm shaking in my boots! You should be. 112 receptions in the regular season and 27 in the post season. Wes Welker was a fantastic addition to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 You should be. 112 receptions in the regular season and 27 in the post season. Wes Welker was a fantastic addition to the Pats. Sweet, and you guys still lost in the superbowl. BTW, take Randy Moss off the pats and Welker aint sh#t. He's a good little player but not as good as the numbers he put up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Sweet, and you guys still lost in the superbowl. BTW, take Randy Moss off the pats and Welker aint sh#t. He's a good little player but not as good as the numbers he put up this year. I knew that was coming. Did you watch the Super Bowl? Welker was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 $39 to 18 is irrlevant, that contract was backloaded and he never would have seen that money. The guaranteed money is the issue and giving up a 2 and guaranteed $10 mil is way too much for Wes Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I knew that was coming. Did you watch the Super Bowl? Welker was excellent. He was by far your best offensive player in the SB. He was a great signing for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Sweet, and you guys still lost in the superbowl. BTW, take Randy Moss off the pats and Welker aint sh#t. He's a good little player but not as good as the numbers he put up this year. QFT This is what i've been saying all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I knew that was coming. Did you watch the Super Bowl? Welker was excellent. I am shaking in my boots! I really am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 QFT This is what i've been saying all year. Welker had 139 catches this year and that is because of Randy Moss? Can you please tell me again how Jason Giambi should be in the HOF? You are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 You should be. 112 receptions in the regular season and 27 in the post season. Wes Welker was a fantastic addition to the Pats. Now you've done it. you've awakened not only Barton, but that sleeping giant Madmike. this thread should take off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I am shaking in my boots! I really am! So Wes Welker sucks? Is that what you trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Gainzo is drunk and searching for a ray of light after his patsies spit the bit in the big game. He found his ray of light and its Wes frickin Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 So Wes Welker sucks? Is that what you trying to say? He's a nice player that greatly benefited playing along side the best WR in the NFL. Mike Furrey caught 100 balls once, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Gainzo is drunk and searching for a ray of light after his patsies spit the bit in the big game. He found his ray of light and its Wes frickin Welker. Whatever dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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