pjam76 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Report from ESPN says they are thinking about getting Randy Moss.... 2nd or 3rd round pick for Randy Moss.. Doubt the Raiders will do it, but who knows. Raiders have done stupider things.... I think the Pats are going crazy... They are doing exactly the opposite of what they've done in the past. Maybe that's a good sign. Can we say panic in NE with all these moves and planned moves by the Pats this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Report from ESPN says they are thinking about getting Randy Moss.... 2nd or 3rd round pick for Randy Moss.. Doubt the Raiders will do it, but who knows. Raiders have done stupider things.... I think the Pats are going crazy... They are doing exactly the opposite of what they've done in the past. Maybe that's a good sign. Can we say panic in NE with all these moves and planned moves by the Pats this offseason. I can't see the Rayduhs doing it because if they take Russell with the 1st overall pick they will FINALLY have someone with the arm strength to throw deep to Moss. That's why Al Davis traded for Moss in the 1st place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 watch the pats win this year and this will be the new model of the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Report from ESPN says they are thinking about getting Randy Moss.... 2nd or 3rd round pick for Randy Moss.. Doubt the Raiders will do it, but who knows. Raiders have done stupider things.... I think the Pats are going crazy... They are doing exactly the opposite of what they've done in the past. Maybe that's a good sign. Can we say panic in NE with all these moves and planned moves by the Pats this offseason. Why does everyone think the Patriots are changing? The NFL is different. The cap has risen 25 million over the last two years. The signed the best availble LBer to a lucrative contract. Something they did a few years ago with Colvin. They traded a second round pick, for a two year veteran receiver that can return kicks also. Then signed him to a 5 year-18 million contract. Judging how good last year's second round receiver did, it is a good move. They then signed to prooven veteran back-ups to replace departed players. They beat teams to the punch before teams start realizing the FA pool is getting shallower and shallower and they have a good load of money left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I am loving this Pats offseason, fiorst overpaying for a good player in Adalius Thomas then sending a 2nd and 7th rd pick plus $10 mil guaranteed for a good #3 WR and below average return man. They remind me of the Yankees after their latest dtnasty ended. They are acting out of despertaion to get back to the title years, thye weren't built on overpaying for high priced FAs- I don't care if they have all the cap room in the World. They won b/c they were a TEAM and that becomes a little fractured when Championship Pats start looking around and wondering why core Championship players weren't paid or paid below value. I am loving the offseason so far, NE might be more talented today but they aren't a better team today and we are after the Jones trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I am loving this Pats offseason, fiorst overpaying for a good player in Adalius Thomas then sending a 2nd and 7th rd pick plus $10 mil guaranteed for a good #3 WR and below average return man. They remind me of the Yankees after their latest dtnasty ended. They are acting out of despertaion to get back to the title years, thye weren't built on overpaying for high priced FAs- I don't care if they have all the cap room in the World. They won b/c they were a TEAM and that becomes a little fractured when Championship Pats start looking around and wondering why core Championship players weren't paid or paid below value. I am loving the offseason so far, NE might be more talented today but they aren't a better team today and we are after the Jones trade. The Pats have significantly upgraded. They signed the #1 FA available. Also good #3 wr is better than anybody on a team that made the AFC title game. They also added a complimentary RB and a TE that blocks as well as anybody. Don't forget that they have two #1s. The Pats suffered this year w/o their #1 wr to get the extra #1. Would you trade Bradshaw a #2, & #7 for Welker a #1 and save money? This draft is packed with WR talent and Meachem, Bowe, Jarrett and/or Ginn will be available. All the Jets did was swap #2s for a chance to make a deal with Thomas Jones. I'd say the Pats are winning the offseason so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 The Pats have significantly upgraded. They signed the #1 FA available. Also good #3 wr is better than anybody on a team that made the AFC title game. They also added a complimentary RB and a TE that blocks as well as anybody. Don't forget that they have two #1s. The Pats suffered this year w/o their #1 wr to get the extra #1. Would you trade Bradshaw a #2, & #7 for Welker a #1 and save money? This draft is packed with WR talent and Meachem, Bowe, Jarrett and/or Ginn will be available. All the Jets did was swap #2s for a chance to make a deal with Thomas Jones. I'd say the Pats are winning the offseason so far. They overpaid for Thomas who is a GOOD player that was surrounded by incredible talent in Baltimore. They overpaud for a #3 WR who is NOT better than anything NE had in the title game. Welker cuahgt alot of balls but averaged just 10 yards a rec which is like a RB out of the backfield and he caught so many b/c they threw so much being behind and Harrington/Culpepepr can't read Ds so they checked down to him alot. The moves NE made that I like are the 2 low cost moves- Morris and Brady. The other moves are more Snyder-like than patriot like. it's funny, everfy other offseason when the Pats take 2nd tier, cheaper FAs and watch other teams overpay the fans and experts will tell us what a mistake those other teams are making but now that NE is making those moves it's all of a sudden genius. Championship teams are not built on high priced FAs, this is exactly like the yanks the past few years trying to buy up talent to recapture the Championship years- the Pats are in desperation mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 They overpaid for Thomas who is a GOOD player that was surrounded by incredible talent in Baltimore. They overpaud for a #3 WR who is NOT better than anything NE had in the title game. Welker cuahgt alot of balls but averaged just 10 yards a rec which is like a RB out of the backfield and he caught so many b/c they threw so much being behind and Harrington/Culpepepr can't read Ds so they checked down to him alot. The moves NE made that I like are the 2 low cost moves- Morris and Brady. The other moves are more Snyder-like than patriot like. it's funny, everfy other offseason when the Pats take 2nd tier, cheaper FAs and watch other teams overpay the fans and experts will tell us what a mistake those other teams are making but now that NE is making those moves it's all of a sudden genius. Championship teams are not built on high priced FAs, this is exactly like the yanks the past few years trying to buy up talent to recapture the Championship years- the Pats are in desperation mode. Why do you keep comparing them to the Yankees? The Yankees have won the division for over a decade. It's not going to help the Jets if the Pats keep winning the division whether they are "desperate" or not. I don't have a problem with the Jets patient moves, but to sit there and act like the Pats suddenly became stupid is ridiculous. Thomas was good with the Ravens because of their talent, well the Pats have talent too and a coach that knows how to use his versatility. PS: Your description of Welker sounds like Brady is going to love him. I'm sure he'd prefer Reche Caldwell dropping TDs than Welker pulling them in at 10 per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Welker has the drops too so they got a shoret, less talente version of Caldwell for a 2nd and 7th rd pick PLUS $10 mil guaranteed money and now miami has signed Joey Porter to a contarct w/ $10 mil LESS in guaranteed money than NE signed Thomas. Miami is making NE look silly the last couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 plus, they still have 2 first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Welker has the drops too so they got a shoret, less talente version of Caldwell for a 2nd and 7th rd pick PLUS $10 mil guaranteed money and now miami has signed Joey Porter to a contarct w/ $10 mil LESS in guaranteed money than NE signed Thomas. Miami is making NE look silly the last couple of days. Let me guess. You were probably one of those guys last year calling the Pats cheap. Your hatred off all things Patriot is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Welker has the drops too so they got a shoret, less talente version of Caldwell for a 2nd and 7th rd pick PLUS $10 mil guaranteed money and now miami has signed Joey Porter to a contarct w/ $10 mil LESS in guaranteed money than NE signed Thomas. Miami is making NE look silly the last couple of days. Welker showed more in the past 2 seasons in Miami than Caldwell showed in his entire 4 year career in San Diego before he got to New England. He has much better hands, is faster and can do it all on offense and special teams. As for the guarenteed money you speak of, Miami signed Porter to a 5 year-$32.4 million deal with $20 million in guarentees. New England and Thomas? 5 years - $37/39 million with $15 million in guarentees. The Patriots have still had a better offseason then Miami. They upgraded their WR position, Miami has not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Let me guess. You were probably one of those guys last year calling the Pats cheap. Your hatred off all things Patriot is amazing. Do you know me? I have been signing the Ptas prasies for years, I am one of the few Jet fans that admits how great you guys have been and although I hate NE I admire what they have done and the way they have conducted business, I also think Brady is by far the best QB in the NFL. Please explain to me how my "hatred of the Patriots" is the reason I am disliking their moves? I got this last offseason from Miami fans, I tol;d them how much Daunte was overrated and they said it was just b/c I hated Miami but now I am signing their praises for a great offseason so far(although I like the Porter deal a little less now that the guaranteed money is $20 mil instead of $12 mil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Welker showed more in the past 2 seasons in Miami than Caldwell showed in his entire 4 year career in San Diego before he got to New England. He has much better hands, is faster and can do it all on offense and special teams. As for the guarenteed money you speak of, Miami signed Porter to a 5 year-$32.4 million deal with $20 million in guarentees. New England and Thomas? 5 years - $37/39 million with $15 million in guarentees. The Patriots have still had a better offseason then Miami. They upgraded their WR position, Miami has not. Thomas got $22 mil in guaranteed money NOT $15. Welker showed more in 2 seasons in Miami than Caldwell? Then how did Caldwell have more yards last year? How did Caldwell average over 12 yds a rec while Wes average 10? how did reche score 4 TDs while in 3 years Wes has a total of 1? I know Wes is "Mr. First down" then how did recehe have 41 recs for 1st downs while Wes had 33? Welker can do it all on Sts by averaging 22 yds a return on KRs and 9 yds a return on PRs- what was I thinking NE should have sent a 1st rd pick for all that production:p (by the way on 12 KR's Caldwell has avered 26 yds per return- that's better than 22, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 plus, they still have 2 first rounders. Whats it matter? They are just gonna use them both on tight ends anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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