Bravejamriot Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/503208p-424439c.html ON DEFENSIVE: The Jets are loading up on defensive ends, fueling speculation they might use the 4-3 scheme more often than last year. They re-signed DE Bobby Hamilton, cut last week, to a reduced contract. They're negotiating with DE David Bowens (Dolphins). They seemed pretty intent on the 3-4 last year... what do you think? I think it would help us if we used more multiple fronts, vilma would love this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbok Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 4-3 would make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 i don't see it happening. hamilton and coleman are 3-4 ends and bowens would most likely play as a pass rushing olb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesAngleton Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Tanenbaum was on the FAN yesterday and said the reason why he liked the Coleman signing is because Coleman knew the "system". Dallas ran the 3-4. Is Cimini the best the NY Daily News has to offer? Jeez and what exactly fueled his speculation? The intetrest in Bowens and the re-signing of Hamilton? Thank god Cimini is a beat writer and not a detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 4-3 would make me happy. I was the biggest detractor against going 3-4 on this board,i believe.I couldn't stand the fact that we were making players like Vilma ,D-Rob and Ellis useless, BUT then I was schooled by a poster whose name i don't remember,sorry, and I went back to the four game that i do have taped and noticed that they did already use multiple fronts.Many times they lined up with 4 down lineman,B Thomas usually being the guy and it completely changed my opinion. I think the 3-4 we run is perfect,because it allows for so many disguises,OF COURSE,a la Bellychick,DUH Sure,Vilma didn't have the solo tackle monster year like 2 years ago,but he was still everywhere.D-Rob,DEFINITELY improved the second half,meaning he began to feel comfortable with the schemes(because let's remember,this is a direct disciple of BB,so the D WILL BE COMPLICATED.and going back to the tapes,which,by the way,I NEVER do stuff like that,but watching the D,that poster put me right back to Earth. and my last point: LOOK WHAT IT'S DONE FOR BTHOMAS! So,now,if you pull up any of my "d" posts from a month ago,you'll start calling me Kerry.lol,but we don't run a 3-4,exactly.We run a "confuse your a$$,you don't know what's happening" defense. One more year in the system with our guys,I still think we go Defense early in the draft and we're alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 4-3 would make me happy. The 3-4 is what all the great D's over the past 10 years have run... The 4-3 can be KILLED by O's like the Colts, Rams, Pats... You need a scheme... Look at the Steelers D, the Pats D, the Ravens D, I can go on and on... The 3-4 is what we wanna run, we need the right players... Right now we dont have em, but give Mangini 2-3 seasons... We will have a Top Notch D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbok Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I WAN'T VILMA TO BE A BEAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FITM Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 They intend to move Bowens to OLB if he signs. I'm not a personal fan of the 3-4, never like the LBs rushing, but it seems more and more teams are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Tanenbaum was on the FAN yesterday and said the reason why he liked the Coleman signing is because Coleman knew the "system". Dallas ran the 3-4. Is Cimini the best the NY Daily News has to offer? Jeez and what exactly fueled his speculation? The intetrest in Bowens and the re-signing of Hamilton? Thank god Cimini is a beat writer and not a detective That is brutal but hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I WAN'T VILMA TO BE A BEAST. i want the jets to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietjets Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 For the millionith time, Bowens is a freaking OLB in 3-4 scheme... The reason Bowens is listed as DE is 4-3 scheme was Dolphins' base defense and he never started. He has the exactly same job as former Pats' Banta-Cain. You people talked about Banta-Cain being OLB for Jets and you still talked about Bowens being DE.. Oh Lord!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 They intend to move Bowens to OLB if he signs. I'm not a personal fan of the 3-4, never like the LBs rushing, but it seems more and more teams are doing it. Great sig, FITM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I wouldn't mind that. Vilma is a beast in the 4-3 but then again some of our players are getting used to the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 If we could scheme and mix a 3-4 in with the occasional 4-3 it would keep offences off balance. I like the potential. Granted this write might be full of crap, but would be exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The 3-4 is what all the great D's over the past 10 years have run... The 4-3 can be KILLED by O's like the Colts, Rams, Pats... You need a scheme... Look at the Steelers D, the Pats D, the Ravens D, I can go on and on... The 3-4 is what we wanna run, we need the right players... Right now we dont have em, but give Mangini 2-3 seasons... We will have a Top Notch D Agreed. Peyton Manning runs all over any other defense except the 3-4, which he only really mastered this year in the playoffs. He couldn't figure it out all those years in the playoffs before, when he played terribly against the Pats and last year against the Steelers. WHen I look at the two schemes, it seems as if the 4-3 is more set and the offense almost knows what to expect. In a 3-4, the offense does not know which linebacker to watch, or if both will blitz. It's more confusing and can wreak havoc on opposing offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 If we could scheme and mix a 3-4 in with the occasional 4-3 it would keep offences off balance. I like the potential. Granted this write might be full of crap, but would be exciting We already do that, along with many other looks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'brickMangoldJets Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I don't like the 3-4. But we need to stick to the plan the system will work for us eventually. It be a big mistake to switch back to south paw when we fought right handed last year and had success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I'm not a personal fan of the 3-4, never like the LBs rushing, . Google and guy named Lawrence Taylor and watch some highlights if possible. * *when you run out of film on the greatest Defensive Player to ever put on pads(who,coincidently was a rushing LB,not vice versa) there are a few more guys you could pull up: Derrick Thomas,Shawn Merriman,Junior Seau,(that bird face dude from the old Bills...lol) there's a bunch,just google "defensive game changers" or "special defensive talents" ....things like that,you get the point. OK,I'm doing it in a sarcastic way,but I'm just simply disagreeing with your statement,I believe the QB rushing OLB to be the most dangerous weapon a team can have in the game. They are players who literally CHANGE a game,they DISRUPT QB's offenses,they are anaomalies,which,by the way,I am loving watching BThomas transform,next year he either propels into my favorite jet or slips into "mediocre,"i like you,but you're slightly disappointing" zone. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Last year was a major change in system for all the D. Players. SOme caught on quicker then others, some excelled quicker then others. B Thomas is the prime example, but so did Rhodes. I look for guys like D. Rob and Ellis, as well as Hobson, to take major strides forward this year. Tweak in a few pieces, and the defense will be a top-shelf one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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