Clemens&theJets Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 #25. Darrelle Revis CB: he was looking to be the 1st CB takin in the draft but his Stock has dropped lately and would be a steal at 25. #59. Quentin Moses DE/OLB: his stock has dropped massivley as well. he was once a top 20 lock but has fallen for some reason. he would as so be a steal at this spot. he stuggled last year but i think he could thrive in the 3-4 #63. Jason Hill WR: this kids stock is raising fast. He is a speed but physical WR and that is just what we need. #89. Manny Ramirez OG: He is a beast. he can bench 550 and is a huge road-grader OG and that is what this O-Line lacks. yes i know my mock is almost the same as www.nfldraftcountdown.com feedback of any sort is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 #25. Darrelle Revis CB: he was looking to be the 1st CB takin in the draft but his Stock has dropped lately and would be a steal at 25. #59. Quentin Moses DE/OLB: his stock has dropped massivley as well. he was once a top 20 lock but has fallen for some reason. he would as so be a steal at this spot. he stuggled last year but i think he could thrive in the 3-4 #63. Jason Hill WR: this kids stock is raising fast. He is a speed but physical WR and that is just what we need. #89. Manny Ramirez OG: He is a beast. he can bench 550 and is a huge road-grader OG and that is what this O-Line lacks. yes i know my mock is almost the same as www.nfldraftcountdown.com feedback of any sort is welcome. Except for Hill, its unlikely that any of these guys will be there in the rounds and at the spots you suggest. I would be thrilled, though, if it worked out this way - except for Hill, dunno much about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Revis is one of a couple of guys who seem like a good fit for us in terms of need, talent, and availability at #25. Like CoachT, though, I'm always wary of first-round CB's. I prefer linemen until that part of the team is all set. If it takes 2-3 years for a CB to come into his own, then why are we not affording Miller that same time-frame that we would (apparently) blindly give to an unknown? But I wouldn't start breaking stuff if Revis was our pick. At least you didn't have us taking a friggin' soft TE. Moses' stock dropped b/c he's got a lot of John Abraham in him from the neck up. Lots of upside, but following up a lousy senior campaign with a lousy combine doesn't speak well of the kid. It could happen, but I my gut tells me Tangini wouldn't touch him. Ramirez is unlikely to last to one of the final day-one picks. You say he's a beast & a road-grader. I agree. So will the GM's of a couple dozen other teams. Our 3rd-rounder is almost a day-two pick. So unless you think Ramirez is likely to fall to round 4 (picks #97+), he's not really any more likely to fall to pick #89. Better to take Ramirez with a late 2nd-rounder instead of a WR who we hope will become third on the depth chart. Coles & Cotchery are both locked up for big money & are too expensive to let go before '09. I don't want to draft a 2nd-round WR to sit on the bench for the better part of 2 seasons. If you think Ramirez could step in right now, don't get too cute with it & reach for a WR whose stock just jumped up over the past 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemens&theJets Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Revis is one of a couple of guys who seem like a good fit for us in terms of need, talent, and availability at #25. Like CoachT, though, I'm always wary of first-round CB's. I prefer linemen until that part of the team is all set. If it takes 2-3 years for a CB to come into his own, then why are we not affording Miller that same time-frame that we would (apparently) blindly give to an unknown? But I wouldn't start breaking stuff if Revis was our pick. At least you didn't have us taking a friggin' soft TE. Moses' stock dropped b/c he's got a lot of John Abraham in him from the neck up. Lots of upside, but following up a lousy senior campaign with a lousy combine doesn't speak well of the kid. It could happen, but I my gut tells me Tangini wouldn't touch him. Ramirez is unlikely to last to one of the final day-one picks. You say he's a beast & a road-grader. I agree. So will the GM's of a couple dozen other teams. Our 3rd-rounder is almost a day-two pick. So unless you think Ramirez is likely to fall to round 4 (picks #97+), he's not really any more likely to fall to pick #89. Better to take Ramirez with a late 2nd-rounder instead of a WR who we hope will become third on the depth chart. Coles & Cotchery are both locked up for big money & are too expensive to let go before '09. I don't want to draft a 2nd-round WR to sit on the bench for the better part of 2 seasons. If you think Ramirez could step in right now, don't get too cute with it & reach for a WR whose stock just jumped up over the past 3 weeks. so you would rather have other than Moses, woodley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 so you would rather have other than Moses, woodley? Would you be happy with Moss in the first round? Or would you prefer CB in the first round and one of these guys later? I'll take Moss (assuming Revis, Houston and Hall are gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 True story I had a dream last night that the Jets indeed drafted Revis in the 1st round. I woke up this morning and puked my guts out. Coincidence? I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemens&theJets Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Would you be happy with Moss in the first round? Or would you prefer CB in the first round and one of these guys later? I'll take Moss (assuming Revis, Houston and Hall are gone). if all the good CBs are gone. i would go with Blalock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 if all the good CBs are gone. i would go with Blalock You would take Blalock even though you think Ramirez will be available in the third round? That doesnt make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 so you would rather have other than Moses, woodley? Harrell, if he slips that far. Signing Coleman doesn't mean we're not looking at DE. I'd even look at the Ivy-League kid DeOssie, who can probably play inside or outside. 6'5/250-lb guys who run a 4.6 don't grow on trees. He won't be there in late round 3, no matter what NFLDC says. Tim Crowder might be gone, but if he's there I'd grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Moses' stock dropped b/c he's got a lot of John Abraham in him from the neck up. Lots of upside, but following up a lousy senior campaign with a lousy combine doesn't speak well of the kid. It could happen, but I my gut tells me Tangini wouldn't touch him. If Moses had more John Abraham in him he'd be a lot better off. His stock dropped because he's not fast. Moses ran a 4.8, IIRC Abraham was in the 4.5s. You can complain about Abraham's ability to stay on the field, but he didn't vanish like Moses and there are/were no doubts he was physically up to the task when healthy. Moses may be a value outside the 1st, but I'm not in love with anything I'm reading about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorFlaJet Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 #25. Darrelle Revis CB: he was looking to be the 1st CB takin in the draft but his Stock has dropped lately and would be a steal at 25. #59. Quentin Moses DE/OLB: his stock has dropped massivley as well. he was once a top 20 lock but has fallen for some reason. he would as so be a steal at this spot. he stuggled last year but i think he could thrive in the 3-4 #63. Jason Hill WR: this kids stock is raising fast. He is a speed but physical WR and that is just what we need. #89. Manny Ramirez OG: He is a beast. he can bench 550 and is a huge road-grader OG and that is what this O-Line lacks. yes i know my mock is almost the same as www.nfldraftcountdown.com feedback of any sort is welcome. Last time I looked Kiper has us taking Revis also. He originally had us taking Meacham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcel2NuFX Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Better to take Ramirez with a late 2nd-rounder instead of a WR who we hope will become third on the depth chart. Coles & Cotchery are both locked up for big money & are too expensive to let go before '09. I don't want to draft a 2nd-round WR to sit on the bench for the better part of 2 seasons. If you think Ramirez could step in right now, don't get too cute with it & reach for a WR whose stock just jumped up over the past 3 weeks. Totally agree. I couldn't live with a 1st round pick going to another offensive linemen but using a second rounder for a guy who could be just what everyone has said Ramirez could be is not a reach in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 #25. Darrelle Revis CB: he was looking to be the 1st CB takin in the draft but his Stock has dropped lately and would be a steal at 25. #59. Quentin Moses DE/OLB: his stock has dropped massivley as well. he was once a top 20 lock but has fallen for some reason. he would as so be a steal at this spot. he stuggled last year but i think he could thrive in the 3-4 #63. Jason Hill WR: this kids stock is raising fast. He is a speed but physical WR and that is just what we need. #89. Manny Ramirez OG: He is a beast. he can bench 550 and is a huge road-grader OG and that is what this O-Line lacks. yes i know my mock is almost the same as www.nfldraftcountdown.com feedback of any sort is welcome. Probably unrealistic after Revis' 40 (in the 4.3s), but he would be a great pick at that spot. I don't like the Hill pick, we have bigger needs than a 2nd round WR. That's a little high for Moses but he provides OK value in the early 2nd and does have the talent, even though he struggled a lot at the LB drills at the senior bowl and combine on top of a lackluster senior campaign. Ramirez is a beast and would upgrade our run-blocking significantly, that would be a great pick in the 3rd. Overall that would be a very good mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 After thinking Kiper was a nut for him having us take Mecham I kind of like the thought. I guess I'm nutty also. My first choice would be Blalock, then Meacham, and then if I had no other choice a CB. I'd almost rather trade out of the first round then take a CB though. Second round looks good, I just don't know if they would be their. And I'd be ecstatic if Ramirez was still there in the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 mangini will draft the best value and at 25th the best value is jarvis moss and greg olsen the other players you mentioned will be long gone before our 59th pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I rather see us get Woodley in the 2nd round, and Blalock in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Harrell, if he slips that far. Signing Coleman doesn't mean we're not looking at DE. I'd even look at the Ivy-League kid DeOssie, who can probably play inside or outside. 6'5/250-lb guys who run a 4.6 don't grow on trees. He won't be there in late round 3, no matter what NFLDC says. Tim Crowder might be gone, but if he's there I'd grab him. how big is harrell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 how big is harrell? 6'4 3/8, 300 lbs, 5.1 40-yd dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 interesting he'd be better than kimo von garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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