Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I've been shopping around for a new PC with our tax returns (hopefully) coming back soon. I have an okay monitor so I'm looking to just buy a tower so I can hopefully get something a little faster than if I had to buy the monitor too. I was looking at this bare bones PC at tigerdirect. Is there a reason why it's called bare bones? Is there something missing that I'll have to add later? I looked through the list and couldn't find anything missing. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2967775&Sku=P459-1224%20F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Why would you want this processor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Why would you want this processor? No clue really, I don't know the first thing about processors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 No clue really, I don't know the first thing about processors. Get a dual core processor..get 2.5 GB of RAM(memory)..get a big Hard drive for your photoshopping stuff..that would be the basics I would get. Try and get XP as an operating system..I wouldn't trust Vista for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Get a dual core processor..get 2.5 GB of RAM(memory)..get a big Hard drive for your photoshopping stuff..that would be the basics I would get. Try and get XP as an operating system..I wouldn't trust Vista for 2 years. I definately don't trust Vista, I'm perfectly happy with my XP Pro. I really don't know if I need that much Ram or not, the PC I'm using now is a dinosaur and it still does most of the stuff that I need to do, I just need more space so I figure I'll upgrade and give Grant this PC to goof around on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I definately don't trust Vista, I'm perfectly happy with my XP Pro. I really don't know if I need that much Ram or not, the PC I'm using now is a dinosaur and it still does most of the stuff that I need to do, I just need more space so I figure I'll upgrade and give Grant this PC to goof around on. I just got a new one in September..I have 1GB of RAM AND A 260 GB Hard drive,DVD rip and burn drives..19 inch flat panel..and I got a 120 watt subwoofer 8 speaker surround sound thing..all of that for $1,200.00..the same amount I purchased my previous dinosaur for. And now they are going even cheaper because that hardware can't support Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 I just got a new one in September..I have 1GB of RAM AND A 260 GB Hard drive,DVD rip and burn drives..19 inch flat panel..and I got a 120 watt subwoofer 8 speaker surround sound thing..all of that for $1,200.00..the same amount I purchased my previous dinosaur for. And now they are going even cheaper because that hardware can't support Vista. Ummm...yeah, $1,200 is nowhere clost to what I was planning on paying for a new PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Ummm...yeah, $1,200 is nowhere clost to what I was planning on paying for a new PC. Sorry dude.. I'll stay out of the thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'm a Mac guy but from what I've heard from son #3, who's a PC geek ,the Intel Celetron processor is not a good choice. It's just a slow , bottom of the line processor. I know Intel makes better processors for just a little bit more pricewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Alk that box is a bit light. What about going to Dell.com and getting one of the $400 models. With no monitor you will walk away with something good. Check the small business options as well. Usually pretty good stuff. You won't need 2.5 gigs of ram. Bill Parcells has some pretty extreme porn requiremements. For the average person 1 gig would be fantastic! Kuje ge said stay away from the Celeron though. If you post this in Tabor's forum free delivery and setup is included! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Yeah, 2.5 gig of RAM is ridiculous unless you're planning to run the International Space Station. I agree about Celeron chips. They're Intel's budget model. I don't know what your budget is, but Tiger has this one for $600 and it looks plenty beefy. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2787756&Sku=SYXS-DB-989458 BTW - "barebones" means all you get is the case, power supply and motherboard with the processor chip and RAM. You have to add your own hard drive, CD/DVD drive/burner, Floppy drive (if you want one), modem, sound card, networking card and probably video card, too. It probably also does not have USB or Firewire ports, so there are more cards to install. You'd want to add at least one fan, too. These things are for guys who like to build custom boxes. EDIT - upon closer inspection, video and sound are built into that motherboard, as are a network port and 2 usb ports. You would not need those cards unless you want to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Sorry dude.. I'll stay out of the thread.. yeah really bill, let us that are more qualified respond to his queries. alk, make sure you get a plain white one. that way when you decide to repaint the computer room it won't clash with the new wall color regards, joe "the techy" willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Okay, another question. AMD or Intel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Okay, another question. AMD or Intel? neither. semi gloss since you have young kids. handprints wipe off walls like magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Here Alk,go with this Tandy computer..(Tandy used to be radio shack) it comes with Dos and 2MB of RAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Lets start off by saying the "anti celeron" people are crazy... the Celeron chips work great... I have a old Celeron I am typing on now that runs XP Pro and my cash register... Also in the store I have 2 pentium 4 PC's both with 768mb of ram running on XP Pro... these are the ones I photoshop on during the day... At home I have an AMD Athlon with 512mb of ram running XP home... I dont use the PC much at home but it runs photoshop and most games great. I also have my laptop, this is also running an AMD desktop chip (terrible battery life, great power) and 768mb of ram... this also runs everything fine... I bought my girlfriend a laptop last x-mas its a Celeron with XP Home... things runs AWESOME... I actually kind of like it better than my laptop... lol SO here is what you want to look for... Stay away from integrated graphics cards if you can... you can always upgrade later though for $50-$150 so its not totally needed... but if possible get a PC with an ATI card already in it. Make sure it has at least 512mb of ram, there are still some 256 deals floating around out there... this can be upgraded as well but a 1gb chip of ram will run you $75-$150 Hardrive isnt that important... its hard to fill up a 60-80gb hard drive... but the bigger the better... Carefull with cheap PC's they usually come with cheap less reliable, slower stuff inside... the CD/DVD drives usually suck, the harddrive is usually a step slower... ect ect Here are some OK PC's... they all have their upsides and downsides... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2928297&CatId=6 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2787756&CatId=6 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2848301&CatId=6 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2949389&CatId=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Okay, another question. AMD or Intel? I have both, and like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 So would I be correct in assuming that the AMD Sempron is the equivalent of the Intel Celeron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 So would I be correct in assuming that the AMD Sempron is the equivalent of the Intel Celeron? No. Sempron is AMD's laptop chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 No. Sempron is AMD's laptop chip. Eh? I'm pretty sure I was just reading on Dell that they use that chip in their desktops too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Well this is the computer I'm looking at right now. PROCESSOR AMD Athlon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Well this is the computer I'm looking at right now. PROCESSOR AMD Athlon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Everything is good EXCEPT VISTA! Did you try to get XP? Yeah, it's not even an option at Dell apparantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Or I can get this one for $469 PROCESSOR Pentium® D Processor 915 with Dual Core Technology (2.8GHz, 800FSB) OPERATING SYSTEM FREE Upgrade to Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium w/1GB memory MEMORY 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs HARD DRIVE 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™ OPTICAL DRIVE 48X CD-RW/ DVD Combo Drive MONITOR No Monitor VIDEO CARD Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 SOUND Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Yeah, it's not even an option at Dell apparantly. 1GB of RAM is the minimum amount of memory required to run Vista. I just remember the horror of XP gliches when it first came out..and now it works great and you can't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 1GB of RAM is the minimum amount of memory required to run Vista. I just remember the horror of XP gliches when it first came out..and now it works great and you can't get it. That's weird, they're selling boxes with Vista on them with only 512 mb of RAM. It is the very basic Vista though so maybe that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 You know what's really effed up? I have to choose between a new PC or a PS3/360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 That's weird, they're selling boxes with Vista on them with only 512 mb of RAM. It is the very basic Vista though so maybe that makes a difference. Really? I don't know what to tell you Alk,I think Jetman67 has Vista and likes it from what I heard on here..other than that I don't know of anybody else that has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Or I can get this one for $469 PROCESSOR Pentium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Still need an opinion on this PC yo. That sounds like a great deal- from where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Still need an opinion on this PC yo. Neither of the boxes you listed have a DVD burner. A combo drive is not the same thing. Otherwise, I think they'd serve you well. BTW - I'm guessing "free upgrade to Vista" means that it comes loaded with XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Neither of the boxes you listed have a DVD burner. A combo drive is not the same thing. Otherwise, I think they'd serve you well. BTW - I'm guessing "free upgrade to Vista" means that it comes loaded with XP. No, it comes standard with some basic Vista crap and they upgrade you to premium or whatever. I kicked around the idea of a DVD burner and really couldn't come up with a real good reason to have it. What does it cost to burn a DVD movie by the time you pay for the blank disc and rent the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 That sounds like a great deal- from where? It's from Dell. Taking away the monitor cut about $180 off of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Well this is the computer I'm looking at right now. PROCESSOR AMD Athlon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Get this one, the Intel Graphics card in the other one will suck... intel integrated graphic cards are terrible... This isnt a bad PC at all, and the hard drive is nice which will help your speed... 80GB is plenty... you might want to get a DVD-RW though... thats the only thing I would look into. Oh and I would go with the PS3... lol celeron+intel graphics=computer only capable of running 'minesweeper'....slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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