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Just make sure that you are not related to anyone else in the league because then it can be assumed that you will cheat and you will be banned.

The ****ing guy had 4 family members in 1 JN league. I'm sorry you feel that is cool to do. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE THOUGHT IT SUCKED.

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The ****ing guy had 4 family members in 1 JN league. I'm sorry you feel that is cool to do. THE REST OF THE LEAGUE THOUGHT IT SUCKED.

Actually, it was three family members. And, yeah it would have been cool because I work with two of them. It is about competing against each other. Both of those guys have been in JN fantasy baseball and football leagues (with you as commissioner) in the last couple of years and there was no problem. Obviously, you have no problem wielding your commissioner "e-power". So, if you thought anyone was cheating, you could have vetoed any one-sided trades, suspicious transactions or general collusion. That's what a commissioner does. Not bully people from behind a keyboard and then take his ball and go home.

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Actually, it was three family members. And, yeah it would have been cool because I work with two of them. It is about competing against each other. Both of those guys have been in JN fantasy baseball and football leagues (with you as commissioner) in the last couple of years and there was no problem. Obviously, you have no problem wielding your commissioner "e-power". So, if you thought anyone was cheating, you could have vetoed any one-sided trades, suspicious transactions or general collusion. That's what a commissioner does. Not bully people from behind a keyboard and then take his ball and go home.

This is comical. This guy had 3 teams in 1 JN league. His son and his brother are not members of JetNation. When he was asked to explain why he had 3 under the same user name in the live draft room 10 minutes before the draft even started ,he choose to ignore me till the clock ran down and then told me to mind my business. Then his brother threw in a nice "go f*ck yourself " & "mind your own business" . Now I'm not sure what you wanted me to do. Bend over and take it up the ass while the other 6 members of the league all demanded answers? Including the commish. Who is this guy he felt he didn't even need to answer me?

I told the Ed to explain why there were 3 teams with his username or all 3 teams would be removed from the league. Did he try to explain to the commish why? No...I was told to mind my own business. Now I'm not sure what Fantasy league you guys played in but when the commish,the guy who went thru all the trouble to set up the league in the first place asks you to explain something,YOU DO IT.

CASE CLOSED. That is why Ed has 0 teams and will never sniff a JN Fantasy league again. You wanna throw yourself under the bus for Ed? Go ahead. You haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about anyway.

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This is comical. This guy had 3 teams in 1 JN league. His son and his brother are not members of JetNation. When he was asked to explain why he had 3 under the same user name in the live draft room 10 minutes before the draft even started ,he choose to ignore me till the clock ran down and then told me to mind my business. Then his brother threw in a nice "go f*ck yourself " & "mind your own business" . Now I'm not sure what you wanted me to do. Bend over and take it up the ass while the other 6 members of the league all demanded answers? Including the commish. Who is this guy he felt he didn't even need to answer me?

I told the Ed to explain why there were 3 teams with his username or all 3 teams would be removed from the league. Did he try to explain to the commish why? No...I was told to mind my own business. Now I'm not sure what Fantasy league you guys played in but when the commish,the guy who went thru all the trouble to set up the league in the first place asks you to explain something,YOU DO IT.

CASE CLOSED. That is why Ed has 0 teams and will never sniff a JN Fantasy league again. You wanna throw yourself under the bus for Ed? Go ahead. You haven't got the slightest clue what you are talking about anyway.

Thankfully, this is America and I can continue to discuss this without the case being CLOSED. You want to talk about having a clue? For someone who is a moderator on a messageboard and would be expected to be even a little bit internet or computer savvy, you lack some key knowledge that is blurring your view of the story. There were THREE separate teams, with THREE separate and distinct e-mail addresses and THREE different IP addresses. Also, considering that I brought four people into the league, there were only four other teams (including yourself) that were DEMANDING answers.

I regret that I was not available for the live draft because I think I could have squelched the situation before it got out of control as it did. The fact that Ed was doing the live draft for only the second time led to his ignoring your inital requests, simply because he was trying to figure everything out and set his draft order up.

The purpose of these posts are not to get into a message board battle with you, but merely to voice my disappointment in how the situation was handled and show you that you were mistaken about ONE person having THREE teams. I think both sides could have handled it better and can guarantee that if it was a true live draft, no of it would have happened.

If you feel the need to "throw me under the bus" with Ed because of my stating of the facts and voicing my displeasure, so be it. If not, I look forward to the extra incentive that I will have when I face you in any other JN Fantasy competitions.

By the way, what happened to that league?

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Thankfully, this is America and I can continue to discuss this without the case being CLOSED. You want to talk about having a clue? For someone who is a moderator on a messageboard and would be expected to be even a little bit internet or computer savvy, you lack some key knowledge that is blurring your view of the story. There were THREE separate teams, with THREE separate and distinct e-mail addresses and THREE different IP addresses. Also, considering that I brought four people into the league, there were only four other teams (including yourself) that were DEMANDING answers.

I regret that I was not available for the live draft because I think I could have squelched the situation before it got out of control as it did. The fact that Ed was doing the live draft for only the second time led to his ignoring your inital requests, simply because he was trying to figure everything out and set his draft order up.

The purpose of these posts are not to get into a message board battle with you, but merely to voice my disappointment in how the situation was handled and show you that you were mistaken about ONE person having THREE teams. I think both sides could have handled it better and can guarantee that if it was a true live draft, no of it would have happened.

If you feel the need to "throw me under the bus" with Ed because of my stating of the facts and voicing my displeasure, so be it. If not, I look forward to the extra incentive that I will have when I face you in any other JN Fantasy competitions.

By the way, what happened to that league?

Like you said...If you were there you would have made sure the communication breakdown that Ed suffered wouldn't have happened. Right? So Can we at least for 5 seconds pretend that my side of the story is legit....How else should I have handled it when the guy's brother is cussing me out?

The league is ruined because 1 guy had 3 teams in the same league and refused to explain why he Had them until it was way too late. No flexing of Internet muscles...no being a tough guy....just be a GOOD COMMISH. Maybe if you were there you could have explained to Ed why it would have been smarter to answer me when I threatened to lock all his teams if he didn't.

Maybe it would be different but since you weren't there to walk Ed thru it,he handled it wrong and it resulted in his 3 teams being deleted and the league being ruined. Just further proof why it's not a good idea to have 3 teams inside the same household in 1 league.

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Like you said...If you were there you would have made sure the communication breakdown that Ed suffered wouldn't have happened. Right? So Can we at least for 5 seconds pretend that my side of the story is legit....How else should I have handled it when the guy's brother is cussing me out?

The league is ruined because 1 guy had 3 teams in the same league and refused to explain why he Had them until it was way too late. No flexing of Internet muscles...no being a tough guy....just be a GOOD COMMISH. Maybe if you were there you could have explained to Ed why it would have been smarter to answer me when I threatened to lock all his teams if he didn't.

Maybe it would be different but since you weren't there to walk Ed thru it,he handled it wrong and it resulted in his 3 teams being deleted and the league being ruined. Just further proof why it's not a good idea to have 3 teams inside the same household in 1 league.

You just don't get it. I'm not sure if you're being stubborn or not, but you continue to state non-facts and I find that dishonest. 1 guy did not have 3 teams in the league. Plain and simple. There are three different people, two adult brothers who DO NOT live in the same household and one 14 year old who was trying out Fantasy Baseball for the first time. Since there was no money involved, it was o.k. for him to be a part of it.

I do not deny that your side of the story is legit (that he refused to give you the information that you needed), but it is clear just by looking at the manager's list that one person did not have three teams. Do you have any relatives? Do some of them share the same last name as you? Is it possible that your cousin/brother/uncle/nephew would use a variation of your last name (Smizzowski?) in their user or screen names?

I'll drop the issue at this point, but I just want to be clear that there was no foul play involved and the league was ruined because of miscommunication and overreaction.

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Smizzy, why did you delete those posts? Because I proved my point? That is absolute bush league. Continue to wield your e-power willy-nilly!

SlugO... I deleted those posts because they had nothing to do with this guys fantasy football league. I'm not the commish. I'm just trying to help fill vacancies.

Wield my e-power? Ill answer you last post and them I'm done with this. Please don't drag this crap into every fantasy thread I start.

You just don't get it. I'm not sure if you're being stubborn or not, but you continue to state non-facts and I find that dishonest. 1 guy did not have 3 teams in the league. Plain and simple. There are three different people, two adult brothers who DO NOT live in the same household and one 14 year old who was trying out Fantasy Baseball for the first time. Since there was no money involved, it was o.k. for him to be a part of it.

Which of the 3 of them are members here at JetNation.com? Just the 1 brother right? First off....these JN leagues are for JetNation members. If you do not have a user name on JetNation,you have no business being in the league in the first place. Plus all 3 teams are in the same family. As commish I felt that was an issue with collusion and I asked him to explain him self before we drafted. He chose to ignore me and then I was told my the brother(who I'm suppose to be thrilled to have in my league) to go "f*ck myself" and then I was told to "mind my business" . It wasn't until all this happened did I lock the teams. Not sure why the communication broke down on Ed's part but when the commish asks you to explain yourself and you tell him to mind his business. Doesn't really sound like a communication breakdown does it?

I do not deny that your side of the story is legit (that he refused to give you the information that you needed), but it is clear just by looking at the manager's list that one person did not have three teams. Do you have any relatives? Do some of them share the same last name as you? Is it possible that your cousin/brother/uncle/nephew would use a variation of your last name (Smizzowski?) in their user or screen names?

Again,explained above. and If he had be right out front and honest with me front the get-go ,I would have let all 3 of them stay. It was the manner in which the 2 old brothers handled themselves that got them all banned.

I'll drop the issue at this point, but I just want to be clear that there was no foul play involved and the league was ruined because of miscommunication and overreaction
Couldn't agree more. But you keep calling me out like I'm a bad commish. I run over 20 different Fantasy leagues and games here @ JetNation and this is the first real problem I've ever had and all I did was ask the guy to explain himself. How much blame should I take for this stuff?
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Smizzy, why did you delete those posts? Because I proved my point? That is absolute bush league. Continue to wield your e-power willy-nilly!

And following me around the message board to give me negative rep for misspelled words makes you what? You have been off base here the entire time and Ive had .

Grow up. Stop the name calling and the personal attacks and move on. No Fantasy Leagues for Ed this yr. He should live.

If you feel the urge to wanna disuss it in detail Ill give you my cell phone number and we can discuss it.

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This thread is for SLuggO to plead Ed's case for him. Where is Ed? He can have 3 family members join 1 JN league but the guy can't come here and defend himself he hired you?

All the deleted posts have been restored and you may continue to tell me how I was wrong.

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was this league 1? I wanted to get in on league one but it was full, because of this I'm stuck in league 3 with only 4 teams. Thanks for not taking your 3 family members who aren't members to your own private or a public league.

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SlugO... I deleted those posts because they had nothing to do with this guys fantasy football league. I'm not the commish. I'm just trying to help fill vacancies.

I do apologize for hijacking the thread that was totally unrelated to FantasyGate '07. I must say, I got a chuckle from that one. Good job

Wield my e-power? Ill answer you last post and them I'm done with this. Please don't drag this crap into every fantasy thread I start.

Now that you have dedicated an entire thread to this (kinda like a JN garbage dump), I'll be sure to keep my comments here and not drag anything into every thread you start.

Which of the 3 of them are members here at JetNation.com? Just the 1 brother right? First off....these JN leagues are for JetNation members. If you do not have a user name on JetNation,you have no business being in the league in the first place. Plus all 3 teams are in the same family. As commish I felt that was an issue with collusion and I asked him to explain him self before we drafted. He chose to ignore me and then I was told my the brother(who I'm suppose to be thrilled to have in my league) to go "f*ck myself" and then I was told to "mind my business" . It wasn't until all this happened did I lock the teams. Not sure why the communication broke down on Ed's part but when the commish asks you to explain yourself and you tell him to mind his business. Doesn't really sound like a communication breakdown does it?

I had no idea that we were not able to bring in friends from outside of JetNation.com to be involved in the fantasy leagues. Seriously, you should put a disclaimer in about that one for future reference. I'll take full blame for that. They both are Jets fans though, so at least I didn't bring in a pats troll or something. As I've stated before, Ed did not handle it properly and telling you to go **** yourself did not exactly endear him to you.

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And following me around the message board to give me negative rep for misspelled words makes you what? You have been off base here the entire time and Ive had .

Grow up. Stop the name calling and the personal attacks and move on. No Fantasy Leagues for Ed this yr. He should live.

If you feel the urge to wanna disuss it in detail Ill give you my cell phone number and we can discuss it.

Follow you around the message board? Don't flatter yourself! C'mon now. If I read something that compels me to reply/post, I do it. The negative rep comment was a joke, lighten up.

Grow up? I've read plenty of your posts over the last year and a half and could say that about a few of them. Please point out where I engaged in personal attacks and/or name calling. Because I have tried to refrain from that in my whopping 400+ posts on this board.

I have no problem with discussing it, if there is anything left that has not been said. You can PM me with it.

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This thread is for SLuggO to plead Ed's case for him. Where is Ed? He can have 3 family members join 1 JN league but the guy can't come here and defend himself he hired you?

All the deleted posts have been restored and you may continue to tell me how I was wrong.

It's not just about Ed. The league was ruined for me too, which is why I actually care a little bit.

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was this league 1? I wanted to get in on league one but it was full, because of this I'm stuck in league 3 with only 4 teams. Thanks for not taking your 3 family members who aren't members to your own private or a public league.

Dude, you have no clue what you are talking about. It was league #4. There are hundreds of free leagues out there to join if you want to. I wasn't happy about the league getting ruined either.

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Follow you around the message board? Don't flatter yourself! C'mon now. If I read something that compels me to reply/post, I do it. The negative rep comment was a joke, lighten up.

Grow up? I've read plenty of your posts over the last year and a half and could say that about a few of them. Please point out where I engaged in personal attacks and/or name calling. Because I have tried to refrain from that in my whopping 400+ posts on this board.

I have no problem with discussing it, if there is anything left that has not been said. You can PM me with it.

No worries. Let's just leave it be.

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Dude, you have no clue what you are talking about. It was league #4. There are hundreds of free leagues out there to join if you want to. I wasn't happy about the league getting ruined either.

that's why I asked, now I know. Still wasn't a smart thing to do.

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I had no idea that we were not able to bring in friends from outside of JetNation.com to be involved in the fantasy leagues. Seriously, you should put a disclaimer in about that one for future reference.

I would have had no problem letting them play if they would have just explained their situation when I had asked what was going on. None of this would have happened had Ed just told me what was going on. When he ignored me ,it looks liked he was avoiding the question because it wasn't legit. That was my concern when I asked and it was my concern when I banned them.

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I would have had no problem letting them play if they would have just explained their situation when I had asked what was going on. None of this would have happened had Ed just told me what was going on. When he ignored me ,it looks liked he was avoiding the question because it wasn't legit. That was my concern when I asked and it was my concern when I banned them.

O.k., cool. I'm done. Good Luck.

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what's the big deal? the competition amongst family members is the most intense. i don't care if i lose to one of you jokers, if you lose against a family member they bust your balls about it the next 6 months.

LOL @ JGB. I think the big deal was that Smizzy didn't know it was 3 different family members. That's what I get from reading the exchange anyhow.

Sounds like everyone has kissed and made up at this point though.

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LOL @ JGB. I think the big deal was that Smizzy didn't know it was 3 different family members. That's what I get from reading the exchange anyhow.

Sounds like everyone has kissed and made up at this point though.

The funny thing is they made me out to be this huge dickhead for asking the guy to explain why he had 3 teams under his name. Like as the commish of the league I had no right to ask him what was going on.

The whole thing was a giant headache.

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The funny thing is they made me out to be this huge dickhead for asking the guy to explain why he had 3 teams under his name. Like as the commish of the league I had no right to ask him what was going on.

The whole thing was a giant headache.

In fairness making you look like a d'head is pretty easy to do. hahaha!

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