New York Jets Mock Draft 07'

[gang_green03]

First ever mock draft...

Round 1: Anthony Spencer, Purdue, DE/OLB

With Carriker obviously gone and the big 3 corners as well I opted to improve the pass rush here. Spencer is good value at this point and should fit in nicely as a 3-4 OLB. Really broke out his senior season. He had 26.5 TFL to go along with 10.5 sacks. He’s got experience dropping back into coverage, but could still stand to improve in that area. Is solid against the run for his size, but needs to improve shedding blocks. Battle tested senior with a lot of experience. He’s very athletic and showed a lot of explosiveness during the senior bowl and workouts. Good motor and intangibles. Could end up being similar to another Purdue alum Shawn Phillips from the Chargers. Should be an excellent pass rusher for us and will give us a dangerous duo with Thomas. Blalock was another option but I feel Spencer is better value at this spot.

Round 2a: Eric Wright, UNLV, CB

1st round talent who dropped because of some character concerns. Good size for the position and is a great athlete. Excellent recovery speed. Blazed a 4.36 at the combine. Has a lot of potential, but is still raw. Like most rookies he needs to work on his technique. Got in trouble at USC (arrested for rape but charges were dropped, but police did find exctasy in his room that belonged to him and his roommate) and had to transfer UNLV. Some might say he’s not a “Mangini guy” but I think that he deserves a second chance. He’s worked hard to overcome his mistake and has been a model citizen since transferring to UNLV. Has the potential to be the best cover corner in this draft and is worth a shot here.

Round 2b: Ikaika Alama-Francis, Hawaii, DE

Big time talent, but also very raw since he didn’t play football in high school. Has the skills to be a great 3-4 end. Has a lot of experience at the position since Hawaii runs the 3-4. Very humble and hard working, great intangibles. Has great size and can get bigger. Very quick. To give a quick snapshot of some of his athletic ability he posted a similar number to Dwayne Jarrett, a WR, in the 3-cone drill (7.31 to Jarrett’s 7.28) at 280lbs! Great strength and very stout against the run. Understands how to get leverage. Great pass rushing skills, but needs to work on his awareness and pass rush moves. Could be a potential steal and become a dominant DE in a year or two. Mangini had dinner with him and the Jets might have shown the most interest in him out of any other team.

Round 3: Manuel Ramirez, Texas Tech, OG

Arguably the strongest player in the draft. The man is a beast and will instantly upgrade our running game. Once he locks on its over and he will not get pushed back. Is fairly quick for his size and has a lot of experience in pass protection since he played for Texas Tech, but he will probably never be more than an average pass blocker. Not really athletic enough and might struggle in space. He is a team leader and I remember reading that he’s constantly studying film. Prototypical “Mangini guy.”

Round 5: Le'Ron McClain, Alabama, FB

I know I'll catch a lot of heat for this pick but I wanted to go offense here and this is where I feel the best value is. I initially thought RT, but I don't see the need for adding a marginal day 2 prospect here for depth, and all the talented ones that fall to day 2 because of technique issues will probably be gone by now. Then I thought WR but I don't like any of the day 2 prospects and don't feel the need to simply add depth. I almost put Yamon Figurs here to take over PR duties and grow into a potential speedy slot receiver, but we already have our project WR in Brad Smith and we don't need to take on another one at the moment. Then I looked to TE but, again, we have adequate depth and there is no need to add one here. I don't see any TEs with good potential lasting this long and Baker is solid, we don't need another fringe guy. So I finally decided on McClain. He should be able to come in and start for us immediately and he is a very good lead blocker, although he could still use improvement in that area. He's a big powerful guy, at almost 260lbs, and should be able to help us in the running game as both a blocker and short yardage back. He's also a great receiver out of the backfield and will help in the short passing game. Very good all around game and his intangibles are top notch. Jones and Washington will love running behind this guy.

Round 6: Quintin Echols, Kansas State, DT

Has the potential to be an excellent NT in our scheme. Good size and is very strong. Has the ability to take on multiple blockers. Pretty good awareness and plays with good leverage. Solid athleticism for his size. He's a monster against the run. Was a beast in the east/west shrine game and was practically immovable at times. He does get tired and his work ethic might be a question mark. Not really much of a penetrator or pass rusher. Should provide excellent depth and rotate in at NT to spell Robertson, and in time he could become starting NT material.

Tried to address all our needs and get good value. Let me know what you guys think...

[Pragmatic Bus]

Round 1: Anthony Spencer, Purdue, DE/OLB

With Carriker obviously gone and the big 3 corners as well I opted to improve the pass rush here. Spencer is good value at this point and should fit in nicely as a 3-4 OLB. Really broke out his senior season. He had 26.5 TFL to go along with 10.5 sacks. He

[gang_green03]

eric wright has character issues he was charged with rape at usc

I understand that but as I said in my mock I think he's worked hard to overcome his mistake and deserves a second chance. He was arrested but it was dropped. He's been a good citizen since leaving USC and there's no denying his talent.

[#27TheDominator]

Generally, this doesn't seem to be a team that will take a risk on guys with character issues. He may be a good value, but we'll shy away from him more than other teams. Also with the league supposedly cracking down, low character guys may continue to drop on everybody's board.

I like Alama-Francis, but this is a little higher than I've seen him projected. I wouldn't be so impressed with him matching Jarrett's shuttle numbers. Jarrett is a stone. If he weren't he'd probably be a top 10 pick. Still a nice pick. I haven't seen much of him, but he's been gaining steam.

[CoachTsurfing]

A nice list of guys, but I'm still holding onto the Blalock pick in round one. While the cb might have gotten the raw end on the rape charge he had drug possession and I have to think that most teams will shy away from any day one picks that have drug issues. I like the de pick and the other guard pick.

[gang_green03]

Generally, this doesn't seem to be a team that will take a risk on guys with character issues. He may be a good value, but we'll shy away from him more than other teams. Also with the league supposedly cracking down, low character guys may continue to drop on everybody's board.

I like Alama-Francis, but this is a little higher than I've seen him projected. I wouldn't be so impressed with him matching Jarrett's shuttle numbers. Jarrett is a stone. If he weren't he'd probably be a top 10 pick. Still a nice pick. I haven't seen much of him, but he's been gaining steam.

You're right, they might shy away from Wright but I think if the coaching staff meets up with him and he shows them that he's matured, they might take a shot at him. I don't think you necessarily have to be a boy scout to be a "Mangini guy" if you show a passion for football and a willingness to work hard.

I don't like to go to crazy over combine numbers but I just wanted to quantify Alama-Francis's athleticism a little. He's one of my favorite prospects and I have him going this high because I just don't see him lasting to our 3rd round pick. A lot of teams have shown interest in him and I think he might get selected higher than his production would lead you to believe because he has a lot of talent.

[Pragmatic Bus]

I understand that but as I said in my mock I think he's worked hard to overcome his mistake and deserves a second chance. He was arrested but it was dropped. He's been a good citizen since leaving USC and there's no denying his talent.

wasting a second rounder on a guy with character issue not mangini's style

[Pragmatic Bus]

also spencer said that he prefers 4-3

[gang_green03]

also spencer said that he prefers 4-3

I never heard that. If he did I hope he has a change of heart cause that's where he has the most potential.

[will]

Nice job, GG03. I like the Spencer pick, assuming Jarvis Moss is gone. If Moss is there then I dont know who I'd prefer.

I agree with the posters here who think Mangini wont touch Wright, fair or otherwise.

I love the Ramirez pick and think that his existence and that of a handful of other guys is why the Jets should not pick a Guard in the first round.

Finally, re Alama-Francis, I think the Jets would prefer a college NT/DT, ie a guy who is used to playing two gaps, which is what Mangini requires of his DEs. But all things being equal I would like for the Jets to take athleticism into account (thus my preference for Moss).

[JohnnyLV]

First ever mock draft...

Round 1: Anthony Spencer, Purdue, DE/OLB

With Carriker obviously gone and the big 3 corners as well I opted to improve the pass rush here. Spencer is good value at this point and should fit in nicely as a 3-4 OLB. Really broke out his senior season. He had 26.5 TFL to go along with 10.5 sacks. He

[mudcat21]

I want the Jets to get both Blaylock and Ramirez. Ferguson, Kendall, Mangold, Ramirez, Blaylock will be a nice line and replacing Kendall next year we will have a OL set for the next 10 years.

[jetfuel]

First ever mock draft...

Round 1: Anthony Spencer, Purdue, DE/OLB

With Carriker obviously gone and the big 3 corners as well I opted to improve the pass rush here. Spencer is good value at this point and should fit in nicely as a 3-4 OLB. Really broke out his senior season. He had 26.5 TFL to go along with 10.5 sacks. He

[SoFlaJets]

wasting a second rounder on a guy with character issue not mangini's style

also-with what has happened with Pacman NFLN was saying the whole LEAGUE is starting to shy away from "character issue" type players-saying that wasting say,a 1st rouder on a guy who's gonna get in trouble can set your franchise back years

[SoFlaJets]

I like the Spencer pick. Eric Wright will not be a Jet though. Francis may be a good fit but I think round 2 is a slight stretch on him. Personally I'm not sold on the guy and I think he's very raw at this point but I'd trust the Jets if they took a shot with him. I don't see how Ramirez is automatically a great run blocker when he comes from a spread offense. I will say that I see him as a worthwhile risk though. I would say he needs a year as a back-up to learn the NFL game but he could be the guy to replace Kendall or Moore in 2008.

Here is my mock (without all the explanations - kind of in a rush)

1 (25) Aaron Ross CB - Texas

2 (59) David Harris ILB - Mich

2 (63) Josh Beekman OG - BC

3 (89) Chansi Stuckey WR - Clemson

5 (164) Martrez Milner TE - Georgia

6 (177) Louis Leonard DT - Fresno St.

I like this Aaron Ross kid a lot from what I've seen so far JF

[jetfuel]

I like this Aaron Ross kid a lot from what I've seen so far JF

I like him or Revis at the 25 spot but I keep hearing Revis will be gone. Hopefully one of them will still be there because I think at this point CB is the most pressing need as far as a starting position goes on this team right now.

[gang_green03]

I like the Spencer pick. Eric Wright will not be a Jet though. Francis may be a good fit but I think round 2 is a slight stretch on him. Personally I'm not sold on the guy and I think he's very raw at this point but I'd trust the Jets if they took a shot with him. I don't see how Ramirez is automatically a great run blocker when he comes from a spread offense. I will say that I see him as a worthwhile risk though. I would say he needs a year as a back-up to learn the NFL game but he could be the guy to replace Kendall or Moore in 2008.

Here is my mock (without all the explanations - kind of in a rush)

1 (25) Aaron Ross CB - Texas

2 (59) David Harris ILB - Mich

2 (63) Josh Beekman OG - BC

3 (89) Chansi Stuckey WR - Clemson

5 (164) Martrez Milner TE - Georgia

6 (177) Louis Leonard DT - Fresno St.

I know he's got character questions and it may be doubtful Mangini takes him, but I don't think we can rule him out 100%. He made a mistake but all indications are that he's put it behind him. I believe that he's worthy of a second chance because he's worked to overcome his mistake and has been problem free ever since. I also feel that he's a Top 3 cover corner in this draft and a steal in the late 2nd.

Agreed that Francis is raw but he's got the tools and the intangibles to be a star. I have us taking him in round 2 cause he won't be there at the end of the 3rd. He might be a slight reach early 2nd, but not by much if at all. A lot of teams have shown interest in him and he could be taken higher than expected because of his high ceiling.

Ramirez does come from that pass heavy Texas Tech offense, but he is very powerful at the point of attack and has the necassary tools to be a dominant run blocker. All he needs is some technique work like most young players do, but from what I've read he has a great work ethic so I don't think that'll be a problem.

[gang_green03]

I like him or Revis at the 25 spot but I keep hearing Revis will be gone. Hopefully one of them will still be there because I think at this point CB is the most pressing need as far as a starting position goes on this team right now.

Agreed on Revis but I'm not big on Ross. He's not really a good cover corner. He makes big plays, but also gives up a lot of big plays. He was thrown at a lot so he got a good amount of chances to make plays. He's not great in man coverage. He strikes me as better suited to play zone. I wouldn't trust him if left on an island. I'd rather have a lockdown corner than one who gives up as many plays as he makes.

I'd only consider taking him if the Hall, Houston, Revis, Spencer, and Blalock were all off the board.

[drago]

Nice job gange green, i don't watch much college, so i hadn't heard of some of these guys. I would love the Hawaii pick, sounds like he could be a solid end.

[Ghost]

I rather see us have Woodley. We have to many DE's this year that got talent.

[SeniorFlaJet]

GG, I have a question. I don't follow the players in the draft that much and rely

on what I read from the guys on the board.

Now a while back the FO was saying that they wanted to get all the pieces in place

before the draft. They have stocked the D with enough DEs and LBs for two teams.

So my question is why do you have them picking a DE and a LB in 2 of the first 3 picks.

If i was a betting man I would say they will take a CB.

[SoFlaJets]

GG, I have a question. I don't follow the players in the draft that much and rely

on what I read from the guys on the board.

Now a while back the FO was saying that they wanted to get all the pieces in place

before the draft. They have stocked the D with enough DEs and LBs for two teams.

So my question is why do you have them picking a DE and a LB in 2 of the first 3 picks.

If i was a betting man I would say they will take a CB.

you're right Senior-NOBODY would figure us to take a DE with all the stockpiling we've been doing at that position which kind of makes me think they're hoping a good one falls to them-a little act of subterfuge...I am convinced we go defense in the 1st round-wherever we end up picking

[#27TheDominator]

GG, I have a question. I don't follow the players in the draft that much and rely

on what I read from the guys on the board.

Now a while back the FO was saying that they wanted to get all the pieces in place

before the draft. They have stocked the D with enough DEs and LBs for two teams.

So my question is why do you have them picking a DE and a LB in 2 of the first 3 picks.

If i was a betting man I would say they will take a CB.

I'm not answering for GG, but I think you answered your own question. They want to get all the pieces in place so that don't have to draft from a position of obvious need. The fact is, they were stockpiling those positions simply because they were spots of obvious need. You can add the resigning of Clement in there. RT, DE, LB are probably spots of greatest need. They didn't exactly sign top guys at those spots. They didn't have to stockpile CB because they already have NFL quality bodies at CB, (not starters, but guys that could make a roster) but I'm certain they'd like to upgrade guys like Poteat as well.

[jetfuel]

I know he's got character questions and it may be doubtful Mangini takes him, but I don't think we can rule him out 100%. He made a mistake but all indications are that he's put it behind him. I believe that he's worthy of a second chance because he's worked to overcome his mistake and has been problem free ever since. I also feel that he's a Top 3 cover corner in this draft and a steal in the late 2nd.

Agreed that Francis is raw but he's got the tools and the intangibles to be a star. I have us taking him in round 2 cause he won't be there at the end of the 3rd. He might be a slight reach early 2nd, but not by much if at all. A lot of teams have shown interest in him and he could be taken higher than expected because of his high ceiling.

Ramirez does come from that pass heavy Texas Tech offense, but he is very powerful at the point of attack and has the necassary tools to be a dominant run blocker. All he needs is some technique work like most young players do, but from what I've read he has a great work ethic so I don't think that'll be a problem.

I'm still not biting on the CB. I think a starting CB is their biggest immediate need and unless Revis and Ross are gone in the 1st I just don't see it happening. I'm not gonna shoot down the other picks you made. They are definitely interesting picks.

I also have complete trust in this draft team. All they've done is draft contributors. The amount of guys who have played a role on their team from the last draft compares favorably to any team in the NFL. The team has actually done a much better job in the draft in recent years than they are given credit for so I will be confident they will make the right picks, whoever they may be.

[gang_green03]

I'm not answering for GG, but I think you answered your own question. They want to get all the pieces in place so that don't have to draft from a position of obvious need. The fact is, they were stockpiling those positions simply because they were spots of obvious need. You can add the resigning of Clement in there. RT, DE, LB are probably spots of greatest need. They didn't exactly sign top guys at those spots. They didn't have to stockpile CB because they already have NFL quality bodies at CB, (not starters, but guys that could make a roster) but I'm certain they'd like to upgrade guys like Poteat as well.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I was gonna say.

[gang_green03]

Stopped being lazy and edited in the 2nd day picks.

[will]

Agreed on Revis but I'm not big on Ross. He's not really a good cover corner. He makes big plays, but also gives up a lot of big plays. He was thrown at a lot so he got a good amount of chances to make plays. He's not great in man coverage. He strikes me as better suited to play zone. I wouldn't trust him if left on an island. I'd rather have a lockdown corner than one who gives up as many plays as he makes.

I'd only consider taking him if the Hall, Houston, Revis, Spencer, and Blalock were all off the board.

If all of these guys are off the board then someone interesting has slipped. Maybe Jarvis Moss, who I'd prefer over Ross.

[#27TheDominator]

First ever mock draft...

Round 6: Quintin Echols, Kansas State, DT

Has the potential to be an excellent NT in our scheme. Good size and is very strong. Has the ability to take on multiple blockers. Pretty good awareness and plays with good leverage. Solid athleticism for his size. He's a monster against the run. Was a beast in the east/west shrine game and was practically immovable at times. He does get tired and his work ethic might be a question mark. Not really much of a penetrator or pass rusher. Should provide excellent depth and rotate in at NT to spell Robertson, and in time he could become starting NT material.

Tried to address all our needs and get good value. Let me know what you guys think...

Echols is one of the guys I was wondering about. Seems like a decent NT candidate, but nobody mentions him and I didn't see enough KState games or watch NT in the couple I'd seen. I saw some of the Shrine game, but he didn't really jump out at me. On a different note, are there any NT prospects that aren't having their work ethic questioned? When a criteria of your job is being fat, I guess being lazy can't be far behind.

[gang_green03]

Echols is one of the guys I was wondering about. Seems like a decent NT candidate, but nobody mentions him and I didn't see enough KState games or watch NT in the couple I'd seen. I saw some of the Shrine game, but he didn't really jump out at me. On a different note, are there any NT prospects that aren't having their work ethic questioned? When a criteria of job is being fat, I guess being lazy can't be far behind.

Yea all of the big guys seem to have some stamina problems lol. Paul Solai is a NT candidate that's been mentioned here I think but he also has problems with stamina. Another guy is Stanley Doughty who's got nice talent, but he's also got Gabe Watson syndrome.