drago Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm interested to hear what GOB has to say on this, being a cop and all. I think it should be legal. the US could tax the hell out of it, and i think its a lesser evil than alcohol. I realize it is a gateway drug, but i haven't met a single stoner that get violent when he/she is high. Just curious what you all think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 A lot of my friends smoke, but I don't. I wanna know how it feels, but I just can't do it. If it was legalized, I might give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 A lot of my friends smoke, but I don't. I wanna know how it feels, but I just can't do it. If it was legalized, I might give it a try. i didn't do it til my junior year of college. good thing too, because my drinking then picked up, and of course the grades dropped a bit. Either way, its a lot like alcohol minus the hang over. I find it better than drinking in almost every respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 three letters... y e s . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 i didn't do it til my junior year of college. good thing too, because my drinking then picked up, and of course the grades dropped a bit. Either way, its a lot like alcohol minus the hang over. I find it better than drinking in almost every respect. Pot makes you stupid over the years... but alcohol usually makes violent wife beating losers out of people... I dont know what to think! Pot is a high school/college thing and should stay that way IMO... its easy enough to get it when your young... so keep things the way they are and just make it less of a crime to have it on you... like a ticket or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pot makes you stupid over the years... but alcohol usually makes violent wife beating losers out of people... I dont know what to think! Pot is a high school/college thing and should stay that way IMO... its easy enough to get it when your young... so keep things the way they are and just make it less of a crime to have it on you... like a ticket or something... That's the truth. If somone is going to smoke themselves retarded than more power to them, i don't personally care. Even if there wasn't such a thing as pot, a person like that would still find a way to make themselves retarded. Was it in texas that some 15 year olds were making a 3 or 4 year old smoke. pretty sick sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 yes, you can sell ciggerates that say they might kill you right on the box but you cant sell marijuna which has less harm than ciggerates. doesnt make sense to me. besides nothing wrong with smoking a good bowl here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pot makes you stupid over the years... but alcohol usually makes violent wife beating losers out of people... I dont know what to think! Pot is a high school/college thing and should stay that way IMO... its easy enough to get it when your young... so keep things the way they are and just make it less of a crime to have it on you... like a ticket or something... pot does not make you stupid. that is propaganda. i have been smoking for around 10 years now, i have the same iq i had before, around 140 and i actually got better grades in college if i smoked before i went. nothin but A's. the only people who get "dumber" are the ones who aren't that intelligent beforehand. that are lazy and just use weed as an excuse not to do anything, same as alcoholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 That's the truth. If somone is going to smoke themselves retarded than more power to them, i don't personally care. Even if there wasn't such a thing as pot, a person like that would still find a way to make themselves retarded. Was it in texas that some 15 year olds were making a 3 or 4 year old smoke. pretty sick sh!t. which just shows you that they were dumb ****s to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pot makes you stupid over the years... but alcohol usually makes violent wife beating losers out of people... I dont know what to think! Obviously, you dont. But just keep coming up with more dumb, unsupported generalizations to keep your post count up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pot makes you stupid over the years... but alcohol usually makes violent wife beating losers out of people... I dont know what to think! Pot is a high school/college thing and should stay that way IMO... its easy enough to get it when your young... so keep things the way they are and just make it less of a crime to have it on you... like a ticket or something... You clearly don't know anything about pot beyond what they told you in D.A.R.E. class. Fact is, there are way more harmful things than pot that people can get legally. Stuff like Tylenol and Robitussin can definitely get you more "f*cked up" than pot, and you can get that in a CVS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I love how people jump all over me becuase I dont really feel like talking about how much pot I have smoked on the internet.... Im not here to play the drug police... trust me... Just saying I have seen it do some bad things, some caused by the person using it and some by the drug itself... Pot effects the "Hippocampus" part of your brain and can impair your short term memory quite a bit... this much is a fact... it doesnt actually make you stupid... but it has effects that can lead to a less productive less intelligent life. I know there is a TON of BS about pot out there to scare people away from it, but the effect it has on THAT part of your brain is for real. I smoked pot when I was younger quite a bit and it never held me back from learning and doing what I wanted with life, but it did f*ck up countless other people that couldnt handle it... It makes most people forget a lot of things short term, makes them lazy, both are things that can lead to a "loser" type lifestyle... you become disconnected from the world, your common sense drops to levels that come off as "stupid" Pretty much you can pass all the tests in the world, but when you become a basement dwelling pot-head in your 40's... not much good can come of life... dont act like these people arent out there... ... its harder to get a job, have a family, have friends, ect ect... sure some people pull it off, but most dont... I think just de-criminalizing (spelling?) it would be fine, its already easy to get... Im sure I could go round up an ounce this afternoon if I wanted and I havent smoked in years now... they should just make it so if you get caught with a few grams on you, they give you a ticket take your weed and move along... no need to throw people in jail for pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I love how people jump all over me becuase I dont really feel like talking about how much pot I have smoked on the internet.... Im not here to play the drug police... trust me... Just saying I have seen it do some bad things, some caused by the person using it and some by the drug itself... Pot effects the "Hippocampus" part of your brain and can impair your short term memory quite a bit... this much is a fact... it doesnt actually make you stupid... but it has effects that can lead to a less productive less intelligent life. I know there is a TON of BS about pot out there to scare people away from it, but the effect it has on THAT part of your brain is for real. I smoked pot when I was younger quite a bit and it never held me back from learning and doing what I wanted with life, but it did f*ck up countless other people that couldnt handle it... It makes most people forget a lot of things short term, makes them lazy, both are things that can lead to a "loser" type lifestyle... you become disconnected from the world, your common sense drops to levels that come off as "stupid" Pretty much you can pass all the tests in the world, but when you become a basement dwelling pot-head in your 40's... not much good can come of life... dont act like these people arent out there... ... its harder to get a job, have a family, have friends, ect ect... sure some people pull it off, but most dont... I think just de-criminalizing (spelling?) it would be fine, its already easy to get... Im sure I could go round up an ounce this afternoon if I wanted and I havent smoked in years now... they should just make it so if you get caught with a few grams on you, they give you a ticket take your weed and move along... no need to throw people in jail for pot. i think you should hung out with some losers. i know alot of cops, teachers, real estate professionals, environmental professionals and countless other professionals who smoke pot and aren't stupid. it is very possible that the people you hung out with would be losers with or without pot. just because you can't handle it doesn't mean other cannot. countless people can't handle alcohol, that doesn't mean it should be illegal for everyone, and it is much worse for you than weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 yes, you can sell ciggerates that say they might kill you right on the box but you cant sell marijuna which has less harm than ciggerates. doesnt make sense to me. besides nothing wrong with smoking a good bowl here or there. What makes you think that pot has less harm than cigarettes? You are inhaling smoke, it's not good for you lungs. The last thing potheads really want is legalized weed. How many "packs" do you think it'll take to get high after they start filtering your joints? Plus, I'm sure the hippies will be happy to be turning over extra money to the man. I think it should continue to be a fairly minimal crime, but legalizing it would be a problem. Especially in a society that is rapidly criminalizing cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 i think you should hung out with some losers. i know alot of cops, teachers, real estate professionals, environmental professionals and countless other professionals who smoke pot and aren't stupid. it is very possible that the people you hung out with would be losers with or without pot. just because you can't handle it doesn't mean other cannot. countless people can't handle alcohol, that doesn't mean it should be illegal for everyone, and it is much worse for you than weed. I know what your saying, I dont hang out with these people... just know them... some of them are leading good lives right now... but you can see where they are playing with fire and standing on the edge... Im not trying to argue with you about it, I know its not terrible, but I also know it has its downsides... Either way I think the US is too strict about it... and I said that... just dont know if it would be a good idea to make it legal... the abuse of it would be through the roof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I know what your saying, I dont hang out with these people... just know them... some of them are leading good lives right now... but you can see where they are playing with fire and standing on the edge... Im not trying to argue with you about it, I know its not terrible, but I also know it has its downsides... Either way I think the US is too strict about it... and I said that... just dont know if it would be a good idea to make it legal... the abuse of it would be through the roof... again, making assumptions. in the areas of the world where it is most legalized, the abuse is also around the lowest in the world. now, the areas where the punishment is much worse (like the U.S.) the rate of use and abuse goes through the roof. now, as for the people you "know", how well can you possibly know them if you don't hang out with them. how do you know they don't have much worse problems that are affecting their lives? either way, it is now estimated than 60% or more of the population now smoked pot or had regularly in the past. all these lives are on the brink of ruin? doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 What makes you think that pot has less harm than cigarettes? You are inhaling smoke, it's not good for you lungs. The last thing potheads really want is legalized weed. How many "packs" do you think it'll take to get high after they start filtering your joints? Plus, I'm sure the hippies will be happy to be turning over extra money to the man. I think it should continue to be a fairly minimal crime, but legalizing it would be a problem. Especially in a society that is rapidly criminalizing cigarettes. actually cigarettes are much much worse for your body than marijuana. "Unlike tobacco, cannabis has not been shown to cause emphysema, lung cancer, or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.[57][58][59] Other studies have suggested that cannabis use by expectant mothers does not appear to cause birth defects or developmental delays in their newborn children.[60][61] According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.[62] Cannabis is known to act on the hippocampus (an area of the brain associated with memory and learning), and impair short term memory and attention for the duration of its effects and in some cases for the next day. In the long term, some studies point to enhancement of particular types of memory.[63] Cannabis was found to be neuroprotective against excitotoxicity and is therefore beneficial for the prevention of progressive degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's disease.[64] A 1998 report commissioned in France by Health Secretary of State Bernard Kouchner and directed by Dr. Pierre-Bernard Roques determined that, "former results suggesting anatomic changes in the brain of chronic cannabis users, measured by tomography, were not confirmed by the accurate modern neuro-imaging techniques," (like MRI). "Moreover, morphological impairment of the hippocampus [which plays a part in memory and navigation] of rat after administration of very high doses of THC (Langfield et al., 1988) was not shown (Slikker et al., 1992)" (translated). He concluded that cannabis does not have any neurotoxicity as defined in the report, unlike alcohol and cocaine.[65][66][67]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pot effects the "Hippocampus" part of your brain and can impair your short term memory quite a bit... this much is a fact... it doesnt actually make you stupid... but it has effects that can lead to a less productive less intelligent life. I know there is a TON of BS about pot out there to scare people away from it, but the effect it has on THAT part of your brain is for real. you might want to read this before spreading the propaganda... Cannabis is known to act on the hippocampus (an area of the brain associated with memory and learning), and impair short term memory and attention for the duration of its effects and in some cases for the next day. In the long term, some studies point to enhancement of particular types of memory.[63] Cannabis was found to be neuroprotective against excitotoxicity and is therefore beneficial for the prevention of progressive degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's disease.[64] A 1998 report commissioned in France by Health Secretary of State Bernard Kouchner and directed by Dr. Pierre-Bernard Roques determined that, "former results suggesting anatomic changes in the brain of chronic cannabis users, measured by tomography, were not confirmed by the accurate modern neuro-imaging techniques," (like MRI). "Moreover, morphological impairment of the hippocampus [which plays a part in memory and navigation] of rat after administration of very high doses of THC (Langfield et al., 1988) was not shown (Slikker et al., 1992)" (translated). He concluded that cannabis does not have any neurotoxicity as defined in the report, unlike alcohol and cocaine.[65][66][67] HMMMMMMMMM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 oktaren you need to stop acting like Pot is this great thing that can cause no harm... look at it from both sides... thats all... I agree that we are too strict about it but dont act like it doesnt harm people... Im not saying I agree with the things below... just showing why it is pointless to argue these types of facts here becuase there are things to support both sides... there is no sure answer... from.. "National Institute on Drug Abuse" Marijuana use increases the heart rate as much as 50 percent, depending on the amount of THC. It can cause chest pain in people who have a poor blood supply to the heart - and it produces these effects more rapidly than tobacco smoke does. Scientists believe that marijuana can be especially harmful to the lungs because users often inhale the unfiltered smoke deeply and hold it in their lungs as long as possible. Therefore, the smoke is in contact with lung tissues for long periods of time, which irritates the lungs and damages the way they work. Marijuana smoke contains some of the same ingredients in tobacco smoke that can cause emphysema and cancer. In addition, many marijuana users also smoke cigarettes; the combined effects of smoking these two substances creates an increased health risk. Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 oktaren you need to stop acting like Pot is this great thing that can cause no harm... look at it from both sides... thats all... I agree that we are too strict about it but dont act like it doesnt harm people... Im not saying I agree with the things below... just showing why it is pointless to argue these types of facts here becuase there are things to support both sides... there is no sure answer... from.. "National Institute on Drug Abuse" i never said it was a great thing, i said WHAT YOU SAID WAS WRONG. which, it is. i just think it should be up to the person, as it should be up to the person whether to drink or smoke cigarettes, which are both much worse for a persons health. also, you might want to do a little more research, all 3 of the things you attatched is old thinking and has been found to not be true in new studies. but if you want to go by 50 year old logic, that is fine with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You guys made a lot of good points. Especially okatren, with if you are stupid/lazy before you will be after The fact that i dont trust the government is the reason i dont want it to be legal. THey'll ruin it. If they treat it like they do in California where it's not a huge deal or like in Denver I'd be fine with that. IT should Positively be leagalized medically. It is natural and works wonders for pain, nausea (i had the stomach virus this week and that was my medication.. worked great and helped me eat). I think it could help anxiety too. Plus all that crap where you just sit on your couch is true, but if it were not looked at as this horrible drug by the public maybe people would go out more while stoned. If the millions (or billions) that went into the war on pot went into other things WOW we could cure some cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You guys made a lot of good points. Especially okatren, with if you are stupid/lazy before you will be after The fact that i dont trust the government is the reason i dont want it to be legal. THey'll ruin it. If they treat it like they do in California where it's not a huge deal or like in Denver I'd be fine with that. IT should Positively be leagalized medically. It is natural and works wonders for pain, nausea (i had the stomach virus this week and that was my medication.. worked great and helped me eat). I think it could help anxiety too. Plus all that crap where you just sit on your couch is true, but if it were not looked at as this horrible drug by the public maybe people would go out more while stoned. If the millions (or billions) that went into the war on pot went into other things WOW we could cure some cancer i agree with you. i have always been paranoid that the government would mess with my marijuana, like they have with tobacco, which is nothing like the plant originally was. on the other hand, i just want it to be legal to possess. if i can possess it, i can find a way to get it without going through the government. and yes, it works wonders with both depression and anxiety. it has even been known to improve personality disorder conditions such as bipolar and borderline disorder, which has like no medicines that have been conclusively known to help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 on the other hand, i just want it to be legal to possess. if i can possess it, i can find a way to get it without going through the government. Same here. Hopefully I'll see that day in the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 again, making assumptions. in the areas of the world where it is most legalized, the abuse is also around the lowest in the world. now, the areas where the punishment is much worse (like the U.S.) the rate of use and abuse goes through the roof. now, as for the people you "know", how well can you possibly know them if you don't hang out with them. how do you know they don't have much worse problems that are affecting their lives? either way, it is now estimated than 60% or more of the population now smoked pot or had regularly in the past. all these lives are on the brink of ruin? doubtful. You are miss reading him. I said basically the same thing but you have dedicated 3 posts to putting words in his mouth. Weed does slow down your mind, it slows some down quicker than others. I "know" a ton of people that smoke all the time, but i don't hang out with them all the time. At no point did Ecurb say everyone who smokes/ed are going to be 40 year old junkies. He said he smoked himself a few years back. i didn't smoke back then, but do now. Does that make me a junkie? no, was he calling me a junkie? i hope not...that son of a b!tch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You are miss reading him. I said basically the same thing but you have dedicated 3 posts to putting words in his mouth. Weed does slow down your mind, it slows some down quicker than others. I "know" a ton of people that smoke all the time, but i don't hang out with them all the time. At no point did Ecurb say everyone who smokes/ed are going to be 40 year old junkies. He said he smoked himself a few years back. i didn't smoke back then, but do now. Does that make me a junkie? no, was he calling me a junkie? i hope not...that son of a b!tch. no, i read it right. weed slows down your mind at the time you are smoking it, but by the time it wears off, no damage has been done. he said differently, and was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 no, i read it right. weed slows down your mind at the time you are smoking it, but by the time it wears off, no damage has been done. he said differently, and was wrong. No you didnt read it right... It is those hours and hours that young people waste sitting on the couch eating junk food and laughing at nothing that in a lot of cases leads to bad grades, poor jobs, no motivation, and in the end a sh*tty life with no money. These are people who had they not smoked pot, would not have been sitting on the couch for hours, eating crap, failing school, and not making money. It can be very counter productive, when your young you need to be busting your a**... everyone thinks they will have that kind of energy for their whole life... you wont... but instead a lot of people in their 20's waste away hundreds if not thousands of dollars and hours on the couch... It does make most people stupid over time becuase instead of being out in the world learning you are high, your mind does not remeber most things that happen when you are high. Dont take what I say the wrong way... I have done it, I will do it, and I will always think it shouldnt be illegal... but Im not blind to the ill effects it has on life... I think that smoking anything should be illegal in public, cigarettes or pot but you should have the choice to do whatever you want on your own property... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Ecurb ,I think you are right about weed and forgetting things...... But I alreay forgot what you posted sorry force of habbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 No you didnt read it right... It is those hours and hours that young people waste sitting on the couch eating junk food and laughing at nothing that in a lot of cases leads to bad grades, poor jobs, no motivation, and in the end a sh*tty life with no money. These are people who had they not smoked pot, would not have been sitting on the couch for hours, eating crap, failing school, and not making money. It can be very counter productive, when your young you need to be busting your a**... everyone thinks they will have that kind of energy for their whole life... you wont... but instead a lot of people in their 20's waste away hundreds if not thousands of dollars and hours on the couch... It does make most people stupid over time becuase instead of being out in the world learning you are high, your mind does not remeber most things that happen when you are high. Dont take what I say the wrong way... I have done it, I will do it, and I will always think it shouldnt be illegal... but Im not blind to the ill effects it has on life... I think that smoking anything should be illegal in public, cigarettes or pot but you should have the choice to do whatever you want on your own property... yes, i did read it right, and yes you are wrong. you say its very counter productive, TOO PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T BE PRODUCTIVE ANYWAYS. if they didn't have pot they would find another way to waste time. those people had they not been sitting on the couch smoking pot would be doing something else THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. as for this "It does make most people stupid over time becuase instead of being out in the world learning you are high, your mind does not remeber most things that happen when you are high." what are you doing? when i smoke, or anyone else i knows smokes, they REMEMBER EVERYTHING that happened. i don't know anyone who smokes and forgets everything they were thinking about or doing. i think that may be just you, because honestly, with the hundreds and hundreds of people i have smoked with, not one has ever mentioned not being able to remember what they were doing while high, unlike anyone i know who has drank alcohol before. maybe you are just a newbie smoker or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 yes, i did read it right, and yes you are wrong. you say its very counter productive, TOO PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T BE PRODUCTIVE ANYWAYS. if they didn't have pot they would find another way to waste time. those people had they not been sitting on the couch smoking pot would be doing something else THAT IS NOT PRODUCTIVE. as for this "It does make most people stupid over time becuase instead of being out in the world learning you are high, your mind does not remeber most things that happen when you are high." what are you doing? when i smoke, or anyone else i knows smokes, they REMEMBER EVERYTHING that happened. i don't know anyone who smokes and forgets everything they were thinking about or doing. i think that may be just you, because honestly, with the hundreds and hundreds of people i have smoked with, not one has ever mentioned not being able to remember what they were doing while high, unlike anyone i know who has drank alcohol before. maybe you are just a newbie smoker or something. I have seen productive people become un-productive when they smoke pot... then when they quit, they became productive again... pretty simple real life experience I have with it... sorry if you have a different experience but it doesnt make mine wrong... Also you yourself admitted that it caused short term memory loss when high... dont beleive that anymore either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I think it should be legal. the US could tax the hell out of it, . Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 No you didnt read it right... It is those hours and hours that young people waste sitting on the couch eating junk food and laughing at nothing that in a lot of cases leads to bad grades, poor jobs, no motivation, and in the end a sh*tty life with no money. These are people who had they not smoked pot, would not have been sitting on the couch for hours, eating crap, failing school, and not making money. It can be very counter productive, when your young you need to be busting your a**... everyone thinks they will have that kind of energy for their whole life... you wont... but instead a lot of people in their 20's waste away hundreds if not thousands of dollars and hours on the couch... It does make most people stupid over time becuase instead of being out in the world learning you are high, your mind does not remeber most things that happen when you are high. Dont take what I say the wrong way... I have done it, I will do it, and I will always think it shouldnt be illegal... but Im not blind to the ill effects it has on life... I think that smoking anything should be illegal in public, cigarettes or pot but you should have the choice to do whatever you want on your own property... this is what happens when you dont smoke any weed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I want G.O.B to post what he thinks already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I have seen productive people become un-productive when they smoke pot... then when they quit, they became productive again... pretty simple real life experience I have with it... sorry if you have a different experience but it doesnt make mine wrong... Also you yourself admitted that it caused short term memory loss when high... dont beleive that anymore either? i meant really short term memory loss, but not loss that doesn't come back. more or less temporarily not thinking about it. the memories always come back, its just stuff like, damn where did i put my keys or something, then i remember like 20 minutes later, either way, its not a big deal, same things happen when you drink alcohol too. as for those people who became unproductive, they would have found something else to make them unproductive if they hadn't smoked pot, losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Geez, I am gonna be the voice of reason here? Age does not matter of whether you smoke pot or not. There are plenty of professionals out there who do it. The thing is, they don't do it all day, every day. They might have it in the evening, after the kids are in bed. They might only do it when they are amongst friends on the weekend. But they don't wake and bake and go off running a financial firm or things like that and take each break to go get high again. Mainly, they use it as often as your casual drinker. This is not a problem and should not be villified or illegal for that matter. People who smoke it all day everyday have a problem. Even if they are productive (I have a friend who is a HS teacher who is high all day every day and you'd never know it) there are still physical risks as well as certain brain functions that will be decreased when used in very large quantities. EVERYTHING on the planet that we consume has the same risk. If you eat 10 lbs of carrots everyday you will become sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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