ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 And we could probably get him for a 2nd maybe even a 3rd round pick which I would do in a NY minute. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235221 Kris Jenkins, and before you ask he only turns 28 this August. The Panthers are reportedly "believed to be seeking at least" a first-round pick in exchange for three-time Pro Bowl DT Kris Jenkins. Jenkins is only 27 but has a history of drinking and weight problems. It would be a surprise if Carolina gets even a second-round pick for him. Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Add injury prone to the above negatives. However, he is a great player when in shape and not injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 Add injury prone to the above negatives. However, he is a great player when in shape and not injured. He has had some injuries but Jenkins has still started and played a full 16 game schedule 4 out of 6 seasons, so, I think you're overstating that a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Add injury prone to the above negatives. However, he is a great player when in shape and not injured. Sounds a lot like John Abraham Syndrome (JAS). Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 We need a player like Jenkins..but the question is what do we do with D-Rob ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 Sounds a lot like John Abraham Syndrome (JAS). Pass. Not even close dude. He has had some injuries but Jenkins has still started and played a full 16 game schedule 4 out of 6 seasons, so, I think you're overstating that quite a bit. Abraham wishes he played a full 16 games 4 out of 6 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Not even close dude. He has had some injuries but Jenkins has still started and played a full 16 game schedule 4 out of 6 seasons, so, I think you're overstating that quite a bit. Abraham wishes he played a full 16 games 4 out of 6 seasons. It's not just the injuries, its the total package I'm talking about here. John Abraham simply carried a LOT of baggage and was a very high maintenance player. He got a DUI, could not stay on the field, and had an attitude problem. Jenkins may not have all those problems, but its close enough for me to say "no thanks". Especially if it would cost a 1st or 2nd round pick to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 We need a player like Jenkins..but the question is what do we do with D-Rob ? I would rotate Jenkins and D-Rob and maybe have D-Rob play some additional snaps at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I would rotate Jenkins and D-Rob and maybe have D-Rob play some additional snaps at DE. That would be far too much money to pay to two guys who would be playing on a "rotational" basis. Jenkins currently is being paid a $31 million contract through 2009, with D-Rob in the middle of a 7-year, $35 million contract which included a $13 million signing bonus. Furthermore, I highly doubt Jenkins would make a whole lot of sense in the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Not even close dude. He has had some injuries but Jenkins has still started and played a full 16 game schedule 4 out of 6 seasons, so, I think you're overstating that quite a bit. Abraham wishes he played a full 16 games 4 out of 6 seasons. Its an insult to Abraham to compare anyone to him in terms of injuries and missing important games as a result therof. Career highlight: Stomach flu v Raiders (playoffs, of course). Anyway, I'd rather the Jets build the defense through the draft: either Harrell in the first round or Mebane or others in later rounds. Groom these guys to play DE or replace D-Rob in case his knee quits or his 2008 contract situation cannot be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 It's not just the injuries, its the total package I'm talking about here. John Abraham simply carried a LOT of baggage and was a very high maintenance player. He got a DUI, could not stay on the field, and had an attitude problem. Jenkins may not have all those problems, but its close enough for me to say "no thanks". Especially if it would cost a 1st or 2nd round pick to get him. We would be stupid not to take a long look at a player of Jenkins caliber, especially when it's at a position where we could really use some quality depth. Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start is all a guy like him needs to rejuvenate his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 We would be stupid not to take a long look at a player of Jenkins caliber, especially when it's at a position where we could really use some quality depth. Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start is all a guy like him needs to rejuvenate his career. It might be hard for a casual fan to grade jenkins since he has been playing in a great defense, surrounded by all pros for most of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 We would be stupid not to take a long look at a player of Jenkins caliber, especially when it's at a position where we could really use some quality depth. Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start is all a guy like him needs to rejuvenate his career. Considering they have gone as far as taking guys that havent played in 5 years (Wadsworth) Im pretty sure they are looking at every player available to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 We would be stupid not to take a long look at a player of Jenkins caliber, especially when it's at a position where we could really use some quality depth. Sometimes a change of scenery and a fresh start is all a guy like him needs to rejuvenate his career. We already have plenty of "projects" on the roster (See: Michael Haynes, Andre Wadsworth, Sione Pouha, etc). It's not even worth our time to be looking at him. He's not a nose tackle, he has a huge contract, is generally a POS, and would likely cost us a 2nd round pick. NO THANKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 We already have plenty of "projects" on the roster (See: Michael Haynes, Andre Wadsworth, Sione Pouha, etc). It's not even worth our time to be looking at him. He's not a nose tackle, he has a huge contract, is generally a POS, and would likely cost us a 2nd round pick. NO THANKS. Buddy, Jenkins wouldn't be a project, not to mention the fact that he'd be an immediate upgrade over D-Rob (not dissing D-Rob but there's no comparison.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Buddy, Jenkins wouldn't be a project, not to mention the fact that he'd be an immediate upgrade over D-Rob (not dissing D-Rob but there's no comparison.) Dude, that's really not saying that much. D-Rob is a bust. As soon as we find a legit nose tackle, D-Rob is toast. Kris Jenkins is a 4-3 DT, not a nose tackle. Why would you want to bring in a $30 million role player who is playing out of position? We already spent big on Kenyon Coleman, would he be relegated to the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Buddy, Jenkins wouldn't be a project, not to mention the fact that he'd be an immediate upgrade over D-Rob (not dissing D-Rob but there's no comparison.) So he knows the 3-4? Sure bulk and size help, but a LOT of playing well in the 3-4 comes from knowing your role... its all about playing the plays perfectly... Jenkins would not be an upgrade over Drob who now has a full year in a tough system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 So he knows the 3-4? Sure bulk and size help, but a LOT of playing well in the 3-4 comes from knowing your role... its all about playing the plays perfectly... Jenkins would not be an upgrade over Drob who now has a full year in a tough system. We can agree to disagree ecurb. I understand that Carolina plays a 4-3 but we aren't talking about some scrub that can barely crack a starting line-up, we're talking about a 3-time probowler that has been to and played in a superbowl. And Jenkins would NOT be somewhat undersized at NT, he outweigh's D-Rob by about 20 lbs and this guy can play football. 4-3, 3-4 whatever. I think Jenkins will be effective in whatever defense he's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 He is the best NT in the game next to Jamaal Williams and Vince Wilfork when healthy, if we can get him, that'll be fu ckin sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawngnome o-line Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 has anybody thought of trading dwayne and the 25th up to a 4-3 schemed team....say the rams, and we go after "phe" known as amobi okoye. to be honest, i absolutely love this kid and i would salavate if that happened....19 years old, rejected going to harvard at 15, and has scouts looking around in utter confusion about his size, and potential upside. goodness gracious, if we could somehow pull that rabbit outta the hat and pull the trigger then jeez. as for jenkins, injure proned with bad knees. plus the weight problem, i don't think i would sacrifice a 3rd (hopefully we're gonna land andrews with that pick) and just groom another player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I think he is somewhat like the Chicago Bulls, he was dominant in the past so he has many fans, now he has fewer fans, in different areas but the majority of them are bandwagoners despite the fact they stuck with him, right ecurb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 has anybody thought of trading dwayne and the 25th up to a 4-3 schemed team....say the rams, and we go after "phe" known as amobi okoye. to be honest, i absolutely love this kid and i would salavate if that happened....19 years old, rejected going to harvard at 15, and has scouts looking around in utter confusion about his size, and potential upside. goodness gracious, if we could somehow pull that rabbit outta the hat and pull the trigger then jeez. as for jenkins, injure proned with bad knees. plus the weight problem, i don't think i would sacrifice a 3rd (hopefully we're gonna land andrews with that pick) and just groom another player No one is going to take D-Rob and his huge contract, for any pricetag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Here's an update on the Kris Jenkins situation: St. Louis is not expected to give up a first-round pick for Kris Jenkins. Carolina needs to lower its asking price if Jenkins is going to be moved. That could easily happen on draft day when the Panthers feel more of a sense of urgency to get value for a player they no longer need. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=91842 I'd trade a 2nd rounder for Jenkins in a heartbeat and run like a thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 A first round pick? Good luck Carolina, not gonna happen. If the deal was right, say, one of our 2nd round picks or our 3rd round pick, I would do it in a heartbeat, most likely. But, he may not be a good option as a 34 NT, probably better suited off in the 43 as a DT but who knows. I don't think hes a Mangini type of a guy so I'd give it a 0.01% chance of him landing with the Jets anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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