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Bartons Final Mock: 3 Complete Rounds

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My last mock had Calvin going #1 and Russell to the Lions, so I thought I'd mix it up alittle and adjust the whole thing one last time. Some picks I made as to what I think the teams should do (Lions drafting Peterson) and others I went with what I am pretty sure what teams will do (Packers - Marshawn Lynch).

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1st ROUND

    [*]Oakland

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I'd take Spencer or Blalock over Olsen everytime but I could see them going Olsen if the Top 3 corners are gone.

I actually wouldn't be to upset if the draft went like this cause I could see Olsen being BPA there, even though I don't like him, and the 2nd and 3rd rounds are pretty nasty.

I'd take this mock. We could do a lot worse.

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Barton,

I heard an interview with the Alleman from Akron yesterday on Sirius Radio. The kid sounds like he has his head screwed on straight. I'd be OK with that pick.

The Olsen pick....just going with the majority of experts out there, or do you really want to see him in a Jets uni?

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Barton,

I heard an interview with the Alleman from Akron yesterday on Sirius Radio. The kid sounds like he has his head screwed on straight. I'd be OK with that pick.

The Olsen pick....just going with the majority of experts out there, or do you really want to see him in a Jets uni?

I'd very much like to see Olsen in green and white as long as he is the BAP player.

If Alan Branch slips there, he's my guy, ditto Darrelle Revis. I'd definitely take Olsen over the likes of Aaron Ross, Justin Blalock and Jarvis Moss who will likely be there at 25.

Its a toss up with guys like Bowe, Houston, Harrell and Olsen. I wouldnt complain if we went with any of those guys over Olsen, although I think Houston has some parts in his game that are similar to Justin Miller, as both dont play the ball in the air well with their back to it and I'm not sure Harrell has a starting spot lined up, unless its nose tackle, ditto Dwayne Bowe at WR with Cotch and Coles.

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So Mangini is taking a guy like Wright? Riiiiight.:eek:

25. Aaron Ross or Marcus McCauley

59. OLineman

Yeah I dont know. Wright has alot of talent and supposedly has cleaned up his act. Those E pills he claims belonged to his roommate, either way he stayed out of trouble at UNLV.

Ross I would not touch in the 1st round, ditto McCauley who was exposed his senior year.

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Yeah I dont know. Wright has alot of talent and supposedly has cleaned up his act. Those E pills he claims belonged to his roommate, either way he stayed out of trouble at UNLV.

Ross I would not touch in the 1st round, ditto McCauley who was exposed his senior year.

I like your picks - they are similar to mine (i posted in another thread). I would take Spencer over Olsen. Which in turn mean the Jets wouldnt take Robison - a guy I'd love for the Jets but only if they took Harrell or Houston in the first round (assuming Revis is long gone). Except for Guard (agree with you on the round and on the pick) I would like to see the Jets load up on athletic, smart defenders - one for each unit).

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I would be happy with Eazy E in the second round, but no Olsen please. He was never **** in college. Just because he runs a pretty 40 without pads does make him Jeremy Shockey.

And from watching him LIVE more than anyone here, he is no Jeremy Shockey. I don't care if I was watching him in HS, hes not a next Shockey, Gates or Gonzalez.

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And from watching him LIVE more than anyone here, he is no Jeremy Shockey. I don't care if I was watching him in HS, hes not a next Shockey, Gates or Gonzalez.

His stats were just as good as Gonzalez in college so I'm not sure how you can say that.

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His stats were just as good as Gonzalez in college so I'm not sure how you can say that.

You cannot compare stats or 40 times or all of that bull****. Plain and simple, you can compare what he does on the field and what you see live, he is no future star. A good player? Yes. Star? No. And the only way I'd want him at at 25 if he was a can't miss STAR with all the NEEDS we have.

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Olsen would be a top 15 lock if he played for Miami back in the 2000-2003 period.

His talent alone might make him go off the board by 25, so who knows if we get the chance to draft him or not. He's not the safest pick, but a very very high upside selection at the bottom of the 1st round.

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So in the first two rounds we make out with an underachieving, one dimensional TE and a CB accused of rape and was caught with posession of over 130 ecstacy pills?

Where do I sign up?

2 things

1. Olsen is the BAP player in this mock at 25. Call him 1 dimensional all you want, but it is stupid because he can improve at blocking. His talents cant be taught. Tony Gonzalex and Kellen Winslow were 1 dimensional out of college too, I bet ya the Chiefs sure regret that pick!

2. Accused of rape, never charged. Who knows the specifics. Ecstacy pills were supposedly his roommates, I dont find that too hard to believe could be true. Stayed out of trouble at UNLV and by all accounts impressed everyone with his attitude in personal workouts.

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2 things

1. Olsen is the BAP player in this mock at 25. Call him 1 dimensional all you want, but it is stupid because he can improve at blocking. His talents cant be taught. Tony Gonzalex and Kellen Winslow were 1 dimensional out of college too, I bet ya the Chiefs sure regret that pick!

2. Accused of rape, never charged. Who knows the specifics. Ecstacy pills were supposedly his roommates, I dont find that too hard to believe could be true. Stayed out of trouble at UNLV and by all accounts impressed everyone with his attitude in personal workouts.

Another 2 things:

1. I don't care for Olsen's talents. He underachieved, plain and simple. Tony G and Winslow although not known as "great" blockers are certainly more than adequate and were much, MUCH more polished products coming out than Olsen.

2. He was still accused of rape which means something very well might have happened. This kid could be the next next Pac Man Jones/Chris Henry. And I find it hard to believe that those e-pills weren't Wright's. They probably belonged to both him and the roomate and It wouldn't surprise me if he blamed the whole thing on the guy he was living with. Wright is a guy with a future in the NFL, his roomate was probably an average joe college student. He definietly would've had more to lose.

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Another 2 things:

1. I don't care for Olsen's talents. He underachieved, plain and simple. Tony G and Winslow although not known as "great" blockers are certainly more than adequate and were much, MUCH more polished products coming out than Olsen.

2. He was still accused of rape which means something very well might have happened. This kid could be the next next Pac Man Jones/Chris Henry. And I find it hard to believe that those e-pills weren't Wright's. They probably belonged to both him and the roomate and It wouldn't surprise me if he blamed the whole thing on the guy he was living with. Wright is a guy with a future in the NFL, his roomate was probably an average joe college student. He definietly would've had more to lose.

1. The entire Miami program was a mess. Shockey or Winslow would not have put up near the numbers they did previously if they were under the Miami U shambled offense in 2006. We'd be calling Shockey and Winslow underachievers now too if they declared after playing for the 2006 Miami team. I dont think any casual fan outside of SWFL or not a canes fan really realizes how bad the situation on and off the field for Miami U was in 2006. And its pretty stupid to say "You dont care for Olsens talents", that really doesnt make much sense......

2. I see what you are saying and by no means am I married to drafting Eric Wright with 1 of our 2nd rd picks. I'll leave that decision up to Eric Mangini as I am sure they did some in depth background checks on Eric. I simply took him at that spot because he was the best corner on the board.

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1. The entire Miami program was a mess. Shockey or Winslow would not have put up near the numbers they did previously if they were under the Miami U shambled offense in 2006. We'd be calling Shockey and Winslow underachievers now too if they declared after playing for the 2006 Miami team. I dont think any casual fan outside of SWFL or not a canes fan really realizes how bad the situation on and off the field for Miami U was in 2006. And its pretty stupid to say "You dont care for Olsens talents", that really doesnt make much sense......

2. I see what you are saying and by no means am I married to drafting Eric Wright with 1 of our 2nd rd picks. I'll leave that decision up to Eric Mangini as I am sure they did some in depth background checks on Eric. I simply took him at that spot because he was the best corner on the board.

IMO, Shockey and Winslow ARE underacheivers at the pro level.

Shockey is a head case and has shown signs of being elite but has a tendency to drop passes and is inconsistent. I sure as hell wouldn't rank him up there with Gates or Gonzalez.

Winslow just played in basically his first season in 3 years. He's had big injury issues and has messed up his knee yet again.

Maybe Miami TE's are just cursed at the pro-level.

And like I said, I can't see Mangini taking a one dimensional, underachiever in round 1. Yes Olsen has great athletic ability but he hasn't put it to great use yet. I just don't like the kid and would rather take someone like Blalock, Spencer, Harrell, or Bowe in round 1.

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IMO, Shockey and Winslow ARE underacheivers at the pro level.

Shockey is a head case and has shown signs of being elite but has a tendency to drop passes and is inconsistent. I sure as hell wouldn't rank him up there with Gates or Gonzalez.

Winslow just played in basically his first season in 3 years. He's had big injury issues and has messed up his knee yet again.

Maybe Miami TE's are just cursed at the pro-level.

And like I said, I can't see Mangini taking a one dimensional, underachiever in round 1. Yes Olsen has great athletic ability but he hasn't put it to great use yet. I just don't like the kid and would rather take someone like Blalock, Spencer, Harrell, or Bowe in round 1.

c'mon dude Winslow caught 89 f'n ball last year and that is underachieving? You guys should just keep it real and be honest - you are all over Ham and Bit's d**k and that is why you want Blalock. Enough with the sillyness.

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I don't see the Lions picking Peterson. They have Jones who isn't ready, but Tatum Bell is available. Three backs like that will cause some problems.

I think when push comes to shove that Peterson is the guy who is gonna slip because of the injuries and all the RB trades this offseason and the apparent availability of Larry Johnson and Michael Turner.

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I think when push comes to shove that Peterson is the guy who is gonna slip because of the injuries and all the RB trades this offseason and the apparent availability of Larry Johnson and Michael Turner.

After Calvin Johnson, I think Peterson is definitely the safest pick and the best player in the draft. Actually, because Calvin is a WR he needs a QB to throw him the ball, but Peterson should be very good - great wherever he goes.

Jemarcus Russell is getting so much hype, alittle too much I think.

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c'mon dude Winslow caught 89 f'n ball last year and that is underachieving? You guys should just keep it real and be honest - you are all over Ham and Bit's d**k and that is why you want Blalock. Enough with the sillyness.

Winslow put up good production for the first time in 3 years. So yes, he has underachieved but mainly because of injuries.

All over Ham and Bits dick? Maybe you should scope out JI sometime. I've been voicing my opinion on Blalock for over the past 3 months now.

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Olsen is not the BAP at 25, especially with players like Aaron Ross, Anthony Spencer, and Justin Blalock still available and actually play positions that the Jets should be using a first-round pick on.

Olsen would be a terrible, awful, dreadful pick. Basically any other similar adjectives to the one I used would be accurate. Barton, I'm not sure why you're so high on this guy because he just makes no sense. At all.

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If you have enough Balls to put Greg Olsen as our first pick ,then I dare you to hold a sign on Draft day,while standing in line thats says "WILL THE JETS PLEASE TAKE OLSEN"

.....and then let me know how it went ,and that's even if you make home that day to post about it. :)

I too bleed green, and i think that Olsen would be a horrible pick for us!

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