Ten Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Ding ding ding. It's not as if Coles has played on superior passing offense either. He's played on the 14th,19th,29th,27th and 19th ranked passing offense. Chambers played on the 27th,26th,20th,17th and 12th ranked passing offense. Coles has played on a worse passing offense and hasn't played on a passing offense ranked as high as 12th.Yet Coles has been much more productive than Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 In a 3-4 Schoebel would be an OLB being that he only weighs about 260. He plays on the right side which in the scenario would have him jam-packed with A. Thomas, B. Thomas, and Jason Taylor. I wrote that down on my depth chart. As for Coleman, tell me what FS in the AFC East is better. I'm not saying you're wrong but I wouldn't say that there is a slam dunk for any other FS in the division over him. I think Coleman is better than the others but it's a close call since none of them are outstanding. A) Schobel is a freakin' beast and it would be him and A. Thomas at OLB. Um I know a better FS than Eric Coleman, try Kerry Rhodes. Coleman is a SS. Did no one else pick up on this? Jetlag's Roster QB: Tom Brady (P) RB: Lawrence Maroney (P) (when healthy, if not then Thomas Jones) FB: Corey Schlesinger (D) WR #1: Randy Moss (P) WR #2: Laveranues Coles (J) WR #3 (slot): Lee Evans ( TE: Ben Watson (P) LT: Matt Light (P) LG: Derrick Dockery ( C: Nick Mangold (J) RG: Steve Neal (P) RT: Anthony Clement (J) (default) LE: DeWayne Robertson (J) ( I think he's a better fit for DE in a 3-4) DT: Vince Wilfork (P) RE: Richard Seymour (P) SOLB: Adalius Thomas (P) WOLB: Jason Taylor (D) / Aaron Schobel ( SILB: Mike Vrabel (P) WILB: Jon Vilma (J) RCB: Asante Samuel (P) LCB: Andre Dyson (J) SS: Eugene Wilson (P) FS: Kerry Rhodes (J) K: Mike Nugent (J) P: Brian Moorman ( KR: Justin Miller (J) / Terrence McGee ( PR: Ted Ginn Jr. (D) Doing this made truly realize how pathetic the rosters of the Bills and especially the Dolphins really are. This division is going to be a 2 horse race for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 A) Schobel is a freakin' beast and it would be him and A. Thomas at OLB. Doing this made truly realize how pathetic the rosters of the Bills and especially the Dolphins really are. This division is going to be a 2 horse race for the next few years. It's also strange that this division is as good as it is at DE, but not DT. As for the two horse race. I brought that up in the Fins forum, and they all just freak out, only a few of them think it will be a struggle for them to hit 8 wins. If they get 8 wins, there should be a celebration, they really don't have anything down there. The Bills will be ok, i think Losman will have a good season despite only having Evans as a legitament threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QB - Tom Brady RB - Thomas Jones FB - Corey Schlesinger WR - Randy Moss WR - Lee Evans WR - Laveranues Coles TE - Ben Watson LT - Matt Light LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Steve Neal RT - Anthony Clement 34 defense CB - Asante Samuel CB - Andre Dyson SS - Rodney Harrison FS - Kerry Rhodes LOLB - Bryan Thomas ROLB - Adalius Thomas LILB - Tedy Bruschi RILB - Zach Thomas RDE - Richard Seymour NT - Vince Wilfork LDE - Ty Warren PR - Wes Welker KR - Justin Miller K - Mike Nugent P - Brian Moorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QB - Tom Brady RB - Thomas Jones FB - Corey Schlesinger WR - Randy Moss WR - Lee Evans WR - Laveranues Coles TE - Ben Watson LT - Matt Light LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Steve Neal RT - Anthony Clement 34 defense CB - Asante Samuel CB - Andre Dyson SS - Rodney Harrison FS - Kerry Rhodes LOLB - Bryan Thomas ROLB - Adalius Thomas LILB - Tedy Bruschi RILB - Zach Thomas RDE - Richard Seymour NT - Vince Wilfork LDE - Ty Warren PR - Wes Welker KR - Justin Miller K - Mike Nugent P - Brian Moorman I pretty much agree except for Bryan Thomas. Sure he has started to come along..finely, but Jason Taylor and Aaron Schobel must be duking it out for that other spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 No real good right tackles in this division,Carey has good size and he's ment to be alright but improving.He is playing LT next year though.No good fullbacks either so I'll go 3 wide receivers. QB - Tom Brady RB - Thomas Jones WR - Lee Evans WR - Laveranues Coles WR-Randy Moss TE - Ben Watson LT - Jason Peters LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Steve Neal RT - Vernon Carey RE-Jason Taylor DT-Richard Seymour NT-Keith Traylor LE-Aaron Schobel ROLB-Adalius Thomas MLB-Zach Thomas LOLB-Rosevelt Colvin CB-Asaunte Samuel SS-Donte Whitner FS-Kerry Rhodes CB-Andre Dyson PR - Roscoe Parrish KR - Justin Miller K - Rian Lindell P - Brian Moorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QB - Tom Brady, Losman RB - Ronnie Brown (how did nobody else have him on the list?), WR - Lee Evans WR - Laveranues Coles WR- Randy Moss TE - Ben Watson LT - Jason Peters LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Derrick Dockery RT - Vernon Carey 3-4 DEFENSE RE- Seymour NT- Wilfork LE- Ty Warren ROLB-Adalius Thomas ILB- David Harris (in time.... plus Bruschi is a has been. Vilma struggles) ILB - Vrabel LOLB-Rosevelt Colvin CB-Asante Samuel SS-Donte Whitner FS-Kerry Rhodes CB-Andre Dyson 4-3 DEFENSE LDE - Shaun Ellis DT - Dewayne Robertson NT - Vince Wilfork RDE - Jason Taylor/Aaron Schobel (neither play LDE much, so Ellis gets the nod there) ROLB - Rosevelt Colvin MLB - Jonathan Vilma LOLB - Mike Vrabel CB-Asante Samuel SS-Donte Whitner FS-Kerry Rhodes CB-Andre Dyson SPECIAL TEAMS PR - Roscoe Parrish KR - Justin Miller K - Mike Nugent P - Brian Moorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 RB - Ronnie Brown (how did nobody else have him on the list?), i had brown on mine, i'm not sure how people take jones over him, to each their own i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Hmm, lets see Barton. Because Ronnie Brown is not a 25 per carry a game back? Thomas Jones can be. Chicago chose not to have him be one. TJ > Brown, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think 124 and Barton got it right with Warren, Wilfork, and Seymour as the three d-lineman. I just watched our Wildcard game vs the pats yesterday (on TiVo) and those three are sick. Completely dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 A) Schobel is a freakin' beast and it would be him and A. Thomas at OLB. Um I know a better FS than Eric Coleman, try Kerry Rhodes. Coleman is a SS. Did no one else pick up on this? Jetlag's Roster QB: Tom Brady (P) RB: Lawrence Maroney (P) (when healthy, if not then Thomas Jones) FB: Corey Schlesinger (D) WR #1: Randy Moss (P) WR #2: Laveranues Coles (J) WR #3 (slot): Lee Evans ( TE: Ben Watson (P) LT: Matt Light (P) LG: Derrick Dockery ( C: Nick Mangold (J) RG: Steve Neal (P) RT: Anthony Clement (J) (default) LE: DeWayne Robertson (J) ( I think he's a better fit for DE in a 3-4) DT: Vince Wilfork (P) RE: Richard Seymour (P) SOLB: Adalius Thomas (P) WOLB: Jason Taylor (D) / Aaron Schobel ( SILB: Mike Vrabel (P) WILB: Jon Vilma (J) RCB: Asante Samuel (P) LCB: Andre Dyson (J) SS: Eugene Wilson (P) FS: Kerry Rhodes (J) K: Mike Nugent (J) P: Brian Moorman ( KR: Justin Miller (J) / Terrence McGee ( PR: Ted Ginn Jr. (D) Doing this made truly realize how pathetic the rosters of the Bills and especially the Dolphins really are. This division is going to be a 2 horse race for the next few years. where do i begin? eugene wilson is a free safety. you dont have WILB, and WOLB and SOLB in a 3-4 system those are terms used in cover-2. dewayne robertson is too short to be a DE in a 3-4 system. how is marroney better than thomas jones, do you work for EA sports or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 QB - Tom Brady, Losman RB - Ronnie Brown (how did nobody else have him on the list?), WR - Lee Evans WR - Laveranues Coles WR- Randy Moss TE - Ben Watson LT - Jason Peters LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Derrick Dockery RT - Vernon Carey 3-4 DEFENSE RE- Seymour NT- Wilfork LE- Ty Warren ROLB-Adalius Thomas ILB- David Harris (in time.... plus Bruschi is a has been. Vilma struggles) ILB - Vrabel LOLB-Rosevelt Colvin CB-Asante Samuel SS-Donte Whitner FS-Kerry Rhodes CB-Andre Dyson 4-3 DEFENSE LDE - Shaun Ellis DT - Dewayne Robertson NT - Vince Wilfork RDE - Jason Taylor/Aaron Schobel (neither play LDE much, so Ellis gets the nod there) ROLB - Rosevelt Colvin MLB - Jonathan Vilma LOLB - Mike Vrabel CB-Asante Samuel SS-Donte Whitner FS-Kerry Rhodes CB-Andre Dyson SPECIAL TEAMS PR - Roscoe Parrish KR - Justin Miller K - Mike Nugent P - Brian Moorman interesting stuff. exept why not put richard seymore at DT in 4-3 instead of D-rob. just saying! BTW brian thomas is way better than colvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 where do i begin? eugene wilson is a free safety. you dont have WILB, and WOLB and SOLB in a 3-4 system those are terms used in cover-2. dewayne robertson is too short to be a DE in a 3-4 system. how is marroney better than thomas jones, do you work for EA sports or something. - Ok you're right about Eugene Wilson. -Why couldn't you call it Weak and Strong OLB? It's just a matter of which is lining up over the TE. I'm sure it's been used before. -Too short? eh. I feel he has the skill set to be effective. - Maroney will be the best of the AFC East if he's healthy, hands down. The kid is a more complete RB than Jones. BTW where's your roster at? Post one so I can rip that apart with my subjective analysis. Which is all this is? There is no "right" answer. Although there are many wrong ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 - Ok you're right about Eugene Wilson. -Why couldn't you call it Weak and Strong OLB? It's just a matter of which is lining up over the TE. I'm sure it's been used before. -Too short? eh. I feel he has the skill set to be effective. - Maroney will be the best of the AFC East if he's healthy, hands down. The kid is a more complete RB than Jones. BTW where's your roster at? Post one so I can rip that apart with my subjective analysis. Which is all this is? There is no "right" answer. Although there are many wrong ones. thats why i didn't post one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 QB - Tom Brady RB - Thomas Jones FB - Corey Schlesinger WR -Lee Evans WR -Chris Chambers WR - Randy Moss TE - Ben Watson LT - Matt Light LG - Logan Mankins C - Nick Mangold RG - Steve Neal RT - Anthony Clement 34 defense CB - Asante Samuel CB - Andre Dyson SS - Rodney Harrison FS - Kerry Rhodes LOLB - Roosevelt Colvin ROLB - Adalius Thomas LILB - Zach Thomas RILB - Mike Vrabel RDE - Richard Seymour NT - Vince Wilfork LDE - Ty Warren PR - Wes Welker KR - Justin Miller K - Mike Nugent P - Brian Moorman Got it right except for WR. I'd definately put Coles over Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 actually if you look 3-4 DE. they are all 6-5 and up and are above 300 lbs. they are basically really tall DT. you need those long arms to shed tall tackles in the NFL. Drob is barely 6-2. the reason why you can't call them weakside or strong side OLB's is because some 3-4 OLB cant make the transition to a 4-3 system. and there is no such thing as weak or strong ILB. you just made that **** up didn't you. in cover-2 the weak side LB can transition to ILB if the DE on the weak side gose upright and becomes a 3-4 OLB sort of like john abraham was under herms system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 in cover-2 its (in herms system) SOLB-----victor hobson MLB-------jonathan vilma WOLB-----eric barton DE/OLB---john abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 just like in cover-2 there is no strong safety or free safety. its basically 2 free safeties. playing 2- deep coverage hence the name cover-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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