Cubs Trade Barrett to San Diego in Exchange for Garbage

[The Troll 97,490]

**** you, Jim Hendry.

[madmike1 109,248]

Don't be so pissed. You got more in this trade than the yankees got for Randy Johnson lol... Though they probably would've been better off just taking the draft picks...

[CrazyCarl40 53,110]

So you were expecting to get something of value for a run of the mill catcher who has shown a history of being a problem in the clubhouse? Hmm..

[madmike1 109,248]

So you were expecting to get something of value for a run of the mill catcher who has shown a history of being a problem in the clubhouse? Hmm..

How the hell is he run of the mill? Typical uninformed information from you.

[faba 118,231]

You knew Zambrano would win out in this confrontation.

[CrazyCarl40 53,110]

How the hell is he run of the mill? Typical uninformed information from you.

You're right. You cannot find a catcher with a .256 AVG, a .307 OBP, a .734 OPS, and 9 HRs anywhere. Or one who has never hit over 20 HRs in his career. Or one who has made 5 errors this year with 8 passed balls and a whopping 17 % of runners out this season.

Those are really diamonds in the rough. Needle in a haystack.

[madmike1 109,248]

You're right. You cannot find a catcher with a .256 AVG, a .307 OBP, a .734 OPS, and 9 HRs anywhere. Or one who has never hit over 20 HRs in his career. Or one who has made 5 errors this year with 8 passed balls and a whopping 17 % of runners out this season.

Those are really diamonds in the rough. Needle in a haystack.

He's been one of the best catchers in the NL the last 3 years.

[madmike1 109,248]

As usual Cashman dropps the ball by not go ing after barrett. The yankees could've given the cubs more than they got... thats for sure.

[vanDoug 28,202]

I liked Barrett on the Cubs.

At least he had some fire in him.

[MasonJet 24,085]

As usual Cashman dropps the ball by not go ing after barrett. The yankees could've given the cubs more than they got... thats for sure.

What planet are you on? If anything the Yankees could use a bit of an upgrade at backup catcher, and Barrett is not a backup.

[madmike1 109,248]

What planet are you on? If anything the Yankees could use a bit of an upgrade at backup catcher, and Barrett is not a backup.

Getting Barrett would've let Posada play 1st 3-4 days a week and got his bat in the lineup every game.

[Bob 158,598]

How the hell is he run of the mill? Typical uninformed information from you.

You're right. You cannot find a catcher with a .256 AVG, a .307 OBP, a .734 OPS, and 9 HRs anywhere. Or one who has never hit over 20 HRs in his career. Or one who has made 5 errors this year with 8 passed balls and a whopping 17 % of runners out this season.

Those are really diamonds in the rough. Needle in a haystack.

OWNED. Not that InsaneMike has enough grip on reality to understand it.

[MasonJet 24,085]

Getting Barrett would've let Posada play 1st 3-4 days a week and got his bat in the lineup every game.

Like I said, Barrett is a starting catcher not a backup. This isn't MLB 2K7 mikey.

[madmike1 109,248]

Like I said, Barrett is a starting catcher not a backup. This isn't MLB 2K7 mikey.

This was the player who was on the trade block for less than he was worth and didn't have a no trade clause. GOD FORBID cashman use that situation to improve the team lol.

[madmike1 109,248]

OWNED. Not that InsaneMike has enough grip on reality to understand it.

BArrett will be the best catcher traded BY FAR this season and he was traded for next to nothing.

[The Troll 97,490]

You're right. You cannot find a catcher with a .256 AVG, a .307 OBP, a .734 OPS, and 9 HRs anywhere. Or one who has never hit over 20 HRs in his career. Or one who has made 5 errors this year with 8 passed balls and a whopping 17 % of runners out this season.

Those are really diamonds in the rough. Needle in a haystack.

Michael Barrett's last four seasons:

2004: .287/.337/.489

2005: .276/.345/.479

2006: .307/.358/.517

2007: .256/.307/.427

Barrett has had a down year thus far, but he had multiple hits last night and he is still one of the 5 best offensive catchers in baseball. He was the fourth most dangerous hitter on the Cubs' team and they traded him away for absolute ****.

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

Michael Barrett's last four seasons:

2004: .287/.337/.489

2005: .276/.345/.479

2006: .307/.358/.517

2007: .256/.307/.427

Barrett has had a down year thus far, but he had multiple hits last night and he is still one of the 5 best offensive catchers in baseball. He was the fourth most dangerous hitter on the Cubs' team and they traded him away for absolute ****.

He's good and should have garnered more in return. I think the recent arguments with some of the staff sealed his fate and GM's new the price tag was at it's lowest.

Top 5 offensively is a bit of a stretch. Victor Martinez, Posada, Mauer, Russell Martin, McCann, Bengie Molina, Johjima, Varitek, Ramon Hernandez, Pudge are all probably better.

Barret is about on a Pierzynsky level.

[madmike1 109,248]

He's good and should have garnered more in return. I think the recent arguments with some of the staff sealed his fate and GM's new the price tag was at it's lowest.

Top 5 offensively is a bit of a stretch. Victor Martinez, Posada, Mauer, Russell Martin, McCann, Bengie Molina, Johjima, Varitek, Ramon Hernandez, Pudge are all probably better.

Barret is about on a Pierzynsky level.

He's a better hitter than Molina Varitek, Hernandez and Pudge at this point..

[Matt39 42,407]

Barret is about on a Pierzynsky level.

ANd they sure love eachother too

Thats fight was great

[DireJet38 5,302]

He's not too sound behind the plate.

Great in fantasy, but he's not a great backstop in terms of defense.

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

He's a better hitter than Molina Varitek, Hernandez and Pudge at this point..

Just not statistically....injuries this season aside.

[madmike1 109,248]

Just not statistically.

Yes. Statistically. The fact that he's been a slump doesn't change that.

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

Yes. Statistically. The fact that he's been a slump doesn't change that.

Which of those players does he have better stats than other than Hernandez who was injured?

Pudge 7Hr-39 RBI's-.292 avg.

Molina 6-34 - .294

Varitek 7-31 - .265

Barrett 9-29 - .255

[madmike1 109,248]

Which of those players does he have better stats than other than Hernandez who was injured?

Pudge 7Hr-39 RBI's-.292 avg.

Molina 6-34 - .294

Varitek 7-31 - .265

Barrett 9-29 - .255

Barrett has had a mid 800's OPS the last 3 years and thats what he'll probably end up with. None of those other players will do that. Also trying to use HR, AVG and RBI's to try to find the better player will give you useless information.

[DireJet38 5,302]

TELL THE NERDS WE WANT BASEBALL BACK!

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

Barrett has had a mid 800's OPS the last 3 years and thats what he'll probably end up with. None of those other players will do that. Also trying to use HR, AVG and RBI's to try to find the better player will give you useless information.[/quote]

Yeah why they ever labled them the Triple Crown categories is beyond me.

[madmike1 109,248]

If you want to go by hundred year old baseball knowledge thats fine but it's not gonna tell you much about how well those players are playing.

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

Listen Mike...Barrett had a "mid" 800 OPS once....last season in 375 AB's So it's jaded.

Must everything be argued to death? Right now...today... he is the lowest of the group in Triple Crown categories AND.... get this.... OPS.

[madmike1 109,248]

Barrett's last 3 seasons were all very good. Something you keep ignoring.

[The Troll 97,490]

Which of those players does he have better stats than other than Hernandez who was injured?

Pudge 7Hr-39 RBI's-.292 avg.

Molina 6-34 - .294

Varitek 7-31 - .265

Barrett 9-29 - .255

Barrett is a better power hitter than any of them. And he hit .307 last season.

Don't try to hold RBIs against Barrett. Like it's his fault that no one can get on base ahead of him. That is what happens you hit behind Jacque Jones.

[CrazyCarl40 53,110]

Barrett is a better power hitter than any of them. And he hit .307 last season.

Don't try to hold RBIs against Barrett. Like it's his fault that no one can get on base ahead of him. That is what happens you hit behind Jacque Jones.

20 HR seasons-

Jason Varitek- 2

Pudge Rodriguez- 5 (and 3 others with 19)

Michael Barrett- 0

Who's the better power hitter then?

.307 is pretty decent considering he is a lifetime .267 hitter. And why does everyone continue to ignore the fact that Cecil Fielder could steal on this guy and his 17% thrown out ratio? Or the fact that his mother probably doesn't like him due to how bad of a clubhouse guy he is?

[The Troll 97,490]

20 HR seasons-

Jason Varitek- 2

Pudge Rodriguez- 5 (and 3 others with 19)

Michael Barrett- 0

Who's the better power hitter then?

.307 is pretty decent considering he is a lifetime .267 hitter. And why does everyone continue to ignore the fact that Cecil Fielder could steal on this guy and his 17% thrown out ratio? Or the fact that his mother probably doesn't like him due to how bad of a clubhouse guy he is?

Homers over the last four seasons:

Varitek: 59

Pudge: 53

Barrett: 57

[CrazyCarl40 53,110]

Homers over the last four seasons:

Varitek: 59

Pudge: 53

Barrett: 57

You said he was a better power hitter than any of those guys on the list. Apparently you were mistaken. Admit it. Move on.

[GimmeShelter 21,640]

You said he was a better power hitter than any of those guys on the list. Apparently you were mistaken. Admit it. Move on.

Add Molina's 58 HR's the last 4 seasons and again there is no disparity. Barrett is a nice player....top5 offensively as a catcher?...NO. Better than the middle tier guys we are discussing? NO.

He is also now no longer playing in Wrigley.

[CrazyCarl40 53,110]

Add Molina's 58 HR's the last 4 seasons and again there is no disparity. Barrett is a nice player....top5 offensively as a catcher?...NO. Better than the middle tier guys we are discussing? NO.

He is also now no longer playing in Wrigley.

Add to that his defensive shortcomings and his CERA, and he really becomes... OMG! a mediocre, run of the mill catcher. Man, wish someone said that before.