ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 But after a few starts, Phil Hughes is the second coming? Neither of you are making any sense, I never saw him say anything about Hughes or Igawa, even if he said something, if any of you would've seen hughes in one of his few starts you would see something special in the kid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I can't believe this... Do you understand that just because a player had a few good months doesn't mean they are going to be great for their entire major league career? Where did I say career? I'm talking about April until now. You have still not answered my question. Why do you keep saying that Hughes is going to be a great pitcher? He has pitched 10 innings in the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Where did I say career? I'm talking about April until now. You have still not answered my question. Why do you keep saying that Hughes is going to be a great pitcher? He has pitched 10 innings in the majors. I am not a pitching prospect expert such as Madmike but I'm guessing because prior to his injury he went 7 without a hit and having saw that game I have a good feeling that with the stuff he had that day he would've gotten the no hitter. He pitched well in his few oppurtunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Neither of you are making any sense, I never saw him say anything about Hughes or Igawa, even if he said something, if any of you would've seen hughes in one of his few starts you would see something special in the kid too. madmike has been all over Hughes jock for months. madmike shoots down Okajima, who has pitched lights out thus far, because he's a "fluke." I want to know why Okajima is a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 madmike has been all over Hughes jock for months. madmike shoots down Okajima, who has pitched lights out thus far, because he's a "fluke." I want to know why Okajima is a fluke. Maybe because Okajima hasn't really come in in times of distress, he comes in during times where his presence is insignificant, during 3-6 run games. In key times he isn't a go to guy, that's papelsuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 But after a few starts, Phil Hughes is the second coming? Do you have any reading comprehension? Phil Hughes' stats in the Minors are a predictor of Major league stats just like Okajima's stats in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Where did I say career? I'm talking about April until now. You have still not answered my question. Why do you keep saying that Hughes is going to be a great pitcher? He has pitched 10 innings in the majors. You too. When I'm saying Hughes is going to be great it had and has had NOTHING to do with his 2 major league stats. His minor league numbers are a predictor just like Okajima's numbers in japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 If you (gainzo) say that Hughes didn't show you anything in his few appearences I doubt you actually saw him pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 madmike has been all over Hughes jock for months. madmike shoots down Okajima, who has pitched lights out thus far, because he's a "fluke." I want to know why Okajima is a fluke. He's a fluke because pitchers don't come from Japan to the US and get better. They get worse. EVERY ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 He's a fluke because pitchers don't come from Japan to the US and get better. They get worse. EVERY ONE. Earth to mike. Okajima has been better than he was in Japan. I know you are a stat geek so why can't you see this? BTW: Okajima just pitched a 1-2-3 9th inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Okajima has been a solid pick up for the Sox. Regardless of how he pans out in the long run, his performance during the first half of 2007 has been brilliant. I hope Hugues can find the same kind of success that Okajima has found in his inaugural season in the league. Philip's last performance was such a tease. I can't wait to see him back on the mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Earth to mike. Okajima has been better than he was in Japan. I know you are a stat geek so why can't you see this? BTW: Okajima just pitched a 1-2-3 9th inning. Just because he has been doesn't mean he will be over the long term. What about that don't you understand? Can you find a Japanese pitcher who has pitched a large number of innings in Japan and in the US who's ERA is higher in Japan? You can't because there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Earth to mike. Okajima has been better than he was in Japan. I know you are a stat geek so why can't you see this? BTW: Okajima just pitched a 1-2-3 9th inning. No suprise there. Afterall his great season so far was a "predictor" that he'd have no problems tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Okajima has been a solid pick up for the Sox. Regardless of how he pans out in the long run, his performance during the first half of 2007 has been brilliant. I hope Hugues can find the same kind of success that Okajima has found in his inaugural season in the league. Philip's last performance was such a tease. I can't wait to see him back on the mound. Exactly, when Hughes is back, we should get our 5th starter and should be in shape to make a run for the wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 No suprise there. Afterall his great season so far was a "predictor" that he'd have no problems tonight. Can you find me a pitcher who has pitched a large number of innings in both Japan and the US who has a better ERA here? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Can you find me a pitcher who has pitched a large number of innings in both Japan and the US who has a better ERA here? Please? Sure. Hideki Okajima.....next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I think some people in this thread need to stop drinking and posting <cough>Gainzo<cough> and others need to take reading comprehension classes <cough>gainzo, GS<cough>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Just because he has been doesn't mean he will be over the long term. What about that don't you understand? Can you find a Japanese pitcher who has pitched a large number of innings in Japan and in the US who's ERA is higher in Japan? You can't because there isn't one. Once again I have never mentioned the long term in regards to Okajima. I find it sad that you can only disparage him by talking about his performance in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Once again I have never mentioned the long term in regards to Okajima. I find it sad that you can only disparage him by talking about his performance in the future. bottom line, okajima is going to come crashing back down to earth really soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Bottom line, based on his season so far, Okajima belongs in the All Star Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 bottom line, okajima is going to come crashing back down to earth really soon. We've been hearing that since May. No one expects him to continue at this pace, but I'm enjoying it while it lasts, and hoping that his dominance continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Bottom line, based on his season so far, Okajima belongs in the All Star Game. Yes he does. But according to some Yankee fans in this thread he blows because a Japanese pitcher can't possibly be good in MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I think some people in this thread need to stop drinking and posting <cough>Gainzo<cough> and others need to take reading comprehension classes <cough>gainzo, GS<cough>. Oh I understand his question but Mike always needs disclaimers to support his theory. BTW the Dodgers Saito has been filthy in the Majors after years in Japan and yes his ERA went down. http://www.japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=tsaito RHP Takashi Saito became the first major leaguer in history to convert 46 of his first 49 saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Oh I understand his question but Mike always needs disclaimers to support his theory. BTW the Dodgers Saito has been filthy in the Majors after years in Japan and yes his ERA went down. http://www.japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=tsaito RHP Takashi Saito became the first major leaguer in history to convert 46 of his first 49 saves. Otsuka of the Rangers is another who has not missed a beat in the majors after coming over from Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Bottom line, based on his season so far, Okajima belongs in the All Star Game. So does Nechek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Otsuka of the Rangers is another who has not missed a beat in the majors after coming over from Japan. Otsuka, another guy whos ERA is higher in the majors than it was in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Sure. Hideki Okajima.....next question. 40 is not a large number genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Once again I have never mentioned the long term in regards to Okajima. I find it sad that you can only disparage him by talking about his performance in the future. What are you smoking? What to expect in the future is the most important factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildthing2022000 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 BTW - the voting so far 1 - Bonderman 2 - Okajima 3 - Neshek 4 - Escobar 5 - Halladay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 We've been hearing that since May. No one expects him to continue at this pace, but I'm enjoying it while it lasts, and hoping that his dominance continues. Aren't these the same fans that say "It's only (enter this month). The Yankees will be fine. Etc Etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Aren't these the same fans that say "It's only (enter this month). The Yankees will be fine. Etc Etc." Only in your mind. No one is saying the yankees are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Aren't these the same fans that say "It's only (enter this month). The Yankees will be fine. Etc Etc." Who said the yankees are fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Who said the yankees are fine? All the Yankees fans did. Most were saying "It's only April." "It's only May." It's now almost the All-Star break. Your time, like the excuses are running out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 All the Yankees fans did. Most were saying "It's only April." "It's only May." It's now almost the All-Star break. Your time, like the excuses are running out. We still have one..... 26 championships to 2 wait another one.... 12 straight appearences for us, 7 all time for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 We still have one..... 26 championships to 2 wait another one.... 12 straight appearences for us, 7 all time for you. And that is in dire straits right now. And Last I checked, the Sox have won 6 all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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