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Live Earth 07.07.07


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I'm not going, but on my way to work I met the guys of Taking Back Sunday, one of the bands that are playing. I've actually seen these guys a bunch, but it was pretty cool talking with them a bit right before work. A nice morning pick me up.

Nice for the most part but Adam Lazzara is a bitch ass.

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Is this one of those concerts where celebrities take private jets - that get 1 mile from a gallon of jet fuel - and use countless kilowatts of electricity so they can wear the proverbial awareness/I care ribbon?

POTW!

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Is this one of those concerts where celebrities take private jets - that get 1 mile from a gallon of jet fuel - and use countless kilowatts of electricity so they can wear the proverbial awareness/I care ribbon?

hahaaha

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Is this one of those concerts where celebrities take private jets - that get 1 mile from a gallon of jet fuel - and use countless kilowatts of electricity so they can wear the proverbial awareness/I care ribbon?

Yeah, but these rich slobs feel they can overlook this crap by "buying energy credits" and greenhouse gas credits. Self important douche bags who want everyone else to change but themselves.

I know its a bit long, but a worthwhile read in my eyes.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/3570/

Thursday 5 July 2007

Is it ethical to stage a rock concert?

Our ethical columnist gives his views on the Live Earth events, and the people who'll be performing in them.

Ethan Greenhart

Dear Ethan,

I was wondering what you thought of the forthcoming Live Earth concerts. They seem to me to be a fantastic opportunity to encourage everyone, but especially young people, to take on board the message about the damage that we are doing to the planet. What do you think?

Yours,

Steven O’Shea New Jersey

Dear Steven,

I would be only too delighted if this coming Saturday, many millions of people would stop to consider the effect of human beings on this small, fragile pebble lost in space that we can, for a mere blink of an eye in the aeons of time, call home. Unfortunately, it would appear that the organisers of Saturday’s efforts haven’t done so, nor given proper consideration to the message they are sending out.

The belief that a rock concert can save the planet is a bit like thinking that Christmas or Thanksgiving can save turkeys. That’s because rock stars are by far the most obnoxious, selfish, relentless consumers of all. They don’t just consume, they make a song and dance of their consumption (if you’ll excuse the pun). If P Daddy or M&Ms or whatever they’re called aren’t ‘blinging it up’ with ludicrous quantities of jewellery plundered from the soil of Sierra Leone or South Africa - just to show how rich they are, frankly - they’re whizzing all round in the world in fast cars and faster planes burning up fuel like it’s going out of fashion. And when they sit still for more than five minutes, they’re flying-in vast quantities of goods from France, Colombia and Afghanistan. (I’ll leave you to work out the exact nature of the products involved but they don’t suggest a clear-headed approach to the planet’s problems.)

Even the most ‘right-on’ performers are every bit as guilty. Wasn’t it Bono, so-called saviour of Africa, who booked a first-class seat on a flight to Milan for his hat? His HAT! And when they’re not performing at eco-concerts, they’re polluting the planet as they tour from one city to another, one country to another. According to those forensic analysts at CarbonFootprint.com, Madonna’s last world tour produced 440 tonnes of carbon in just four months! That’s the equivalent of thousands of Malawians - like her new ‘son’ ‘David’. She should have left the boy there to reduce his impact on everyone else in Africa. And then there are those entourages, those collections of truly pointless individuals whose only purpose is to join in all the needless travelling and consumption. Some of them are huge - both the entourages and the people who make them up. Have you seen these people? Some of them are the size of baby elephants. They’re not so much flown about as airlifted.

But you won’t be hearing any solid, practical policy suggestions like that on Saturday. You won’t hear anyone suggesting that the concerts should be part of a closing down ceremony for stadiums like Wembley which use up massive amounts of resources to build only to lie empty most of the year (and attract hordes of people the rest of the time). No, the big, fat message of Live Earth will be that it’s okay to be a hypocrite. It’s okay to be filthy rich as long as you stand on stage once in a while and tell everyone else how to live their lives. The only people who should be telling the population how to live are those who are already striving to ‘live the dream’ of a carbon-neutral, zero-footprint lifestyle - which, in my own modest way, I’m trying to do with this column.

Of course, the organisers say they’ve made the event ‘carbon neutral’. What does that mean? That they’ve planted some trees somewhere to cover the carbon produced by getting the performers there or in powering their ludicrously powerful amplifiers? Or they’re running education schemes in Uzbekistan to warn people off the cancer of development (actually, that’s not such a bad idea). That doesn’t make up for the hundreds of thousands of people travelling to the concerts, with the tonnes of rubbish they will produce, or the millions who’ll be watching on television when they could be doing something less resource-intensive instead.

And as some dreadful band ‘rocks the planet’ at Wembley and all those other stadiums, has anyone calculated the effect of the noise on the local flora and fauna? Who can tell if the sound of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers at 110 decibels isn’t making a nearby chaffinch infertile? All the people in the stadium will no doubt be another step or two along the path to some form of nasty ‘buzzing’ deafness, though perhaps the volume of such concerts is a necessity given that the audience members have often wrecked their hearing already blasting music through their iPod headphones at thermonuclear levels.

There’s a book-of-the-concert, too, providing lots of tips on how to live an eco-lifestyle. You know the sort of thing, culled from other ‘ethical living’ columns that pussyfoot around the problem: oh, buy a few low-energy bulbs, do your washing at 30 degrees, try walking once in a while (you waddling, wobbling great mound of rotting lard)… This is all just tinkering at the edges. The real question is: WHY CHANGE THE LIGHT-BULB WHEN THE WHOLE HOUSE NEEDS RE-WIRING? I’ve always been opposed to the production of such books. Not only do they suggest that we can maintain our current lifestyles with little change, but they cause plenty of destruction of their own. Those who churn out these books have sap on their hands. (On the other hand, it is clear that such books have some impact… I do wonder whether one small publication of my own might be justified.)

Ultimately, the big problem with Live Earth is that it is built on one of the worst drugs of all: fame. This induces a kind of megalomania which suggests that people actually want to see YOU in the flesh - hence, all the touring, publicity, photoshoots, appearances. Why can’t people simply produce music to make a point and perform it at a local community centre? Or they can sing into a webcam if they really insist on a ‘global’ audience.

I’m sure it was this obsession with fame and all the other trappings of the ‘biz’ that prevented me from achieving a greater impact with my music. I had a loyal and vociferous following in my youth, with such songs as Why Can’t It Be The Humans That Die Out?:

The dodo is extinct, that bird is gone forever,

We’ll never see it’s funny face or gaze upon it feathers,

But we’re the ones to blame, we’re just ecological louts,

Why can’t it be the humans that die out?

Of course, there were comparisons with Dylan. But I knew there were dangers, too. I was getting too big, too hooked on that drug of fame. Things came to a head when one night, as I launched into the chorus of Why Can’t It Be The Humans That Die Out?, I realised with horror that all 12 audience members had pulled lighters from their pockets and were waving them in time to the music! Never mind the implication that they were all smokers - what about the propane? I walked away from it that night (admittedly, shouting ‘IT’S NOT A F*CKING POWER BALLAD YOU KNOW!’). Now I simply amuse myself at home trying to work out how to play the three-pronged nose flute I bought from a sustainable music stall at the local farmers’ market.

Which is what everyone should do, instead of going to an eco-concert.

Ethan Greenhart is here to answer all your questions about ethical living in the twenty-first century.

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thanks to you i marked all of the bank slips as the 7th yesterday (the 6th), and a few today as the 8th. thank you for taking advantage of your resident retard.

You are not alone. JetNation is the proud home of the greatest group of flunkies ever!

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So what will become of this multiple concert affair? Will anyone really change their consuming and living habits to be more environment friendly?

yea I think so-it gave a lot of good ideas on conservation and put them into terms any idiot (like me) can understand-for instance one where they were talking about how keeping your tires filled correctly can over the course of a year save you a tank of gas-one aluminum can recycled = 3 hours of a television running-stuff like that gets you thinking

also...how impressive was Roger Waters taking over fronting Floyd-such class and grace

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yea I think so-it gave a lot of good ideas on conservation and put them into terms any idiot (like me) can understand-for instance one where they were talking about how keeping your tires filled correctly can over the course of a year save you a tank of gas-one aluminum can recycled = 3 hours of a television running-stuff like that gets you thinking

also...how impressive was Roger Waters taking over fronting Floyd-such class and grace

Ironically, Grace was David Gilmour's gay/pet name for Roger Waters through 1978. The circle of life.

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This concert probably used more car emissions, electricity, and power, to execute this even globally, than what pledges will be executed world wide.

As an awareness thing, its one thing...as a cause for personal change...I doubt it.

Bingo!

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This concert probably used more car emissions, electricity, and power, to execute this even globally, than what pledges will be executed world wide.

As an awareness thing, its one thing...as a cause for personal change...I doubt it.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/06/america/NA-GEN-US-Live-Earth.php

They obviously did the best they could to make the concerts as environmentally-friendly as possible. I agree with the Picard guy in that this is justifiable because many people are unaware and/or trying to deny that there are significant environmental problems occurring right now. If this helps people become smarter about this stuff then it is worth it.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/06/america/NA-GEN-US-Live-Earth.php

They obviously did the best they could to make the concerts as environmentally-friendly as possible. I agree with the Picard guy in that this is justifiable because many people are unaware and/or trying to deny that there are significant environmental problems occurring right now. If this helps people become smarter about this stuff then it is worth it.

I seriously question that there environmental doubters will become enlightened in any way because of these concerts. But the performers (who I'm sure are getting paid well for their appearances) can go home with a squeaky-clean conscience as they take their 6 mpg Humvee limousines to the airport where their 1 mpg private jets await them.

They are uneducated morons singing mostly incoherent lyrics, living a life of wasting resources, preaching on a subject they know little about to people who mostly care only insofar as it does not affect their own lifestyles.

I'd love to see these caring, selfless individuals champion a cause like a 5000% tax on new, non-commercial vehicle purchases for autos that get under 15 mpg (limos & humvees & exotic sports cars); or a $1000/gallon surcharge for jet fuel for private/non-commercial aircrafts. Then we'll see how much they really give a crap b/c there wouldn't be any public outrage over it & the money could feed a million children a year with little difficulty.

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I seriously question that there environmental doubters will become enlightened in any way because of these concerts. But the performers (who I'm sure are getting paid well for their appearances) can go home with a squeaky-clean conscience as they take their 6 mpg Humvee limousines to the airport where their 1 mpg private jets await them.

They are uneducated morons singing mostly incoherent lyrics, living a life of wasting resources, preaching on a subject they know little about to people who mostly care only insofar as it does not affect their own lifestyles.

I'd love to see these caring, selfless individuals champion a cause like a 5000% tax on new, non-commercial vehicle purchases for autos that get under 15 mpg (limos & humvees & exotic sports cars); or a $1000/gallon surcharge for jet fuel for private/non-commercial aircrafts. Then we'll see how much they really give a crap b/c there wouldn't be any public outrage over it & the money could feed a million children a year with little difficulty.

Well I didn't say anything about the artists themselves, I barely watched any of it because I can't stand any of those corporate rock bands but you never know if it informed some people who don't know much about the subject, as there seemed to be parts of it besides just the bands.

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From what i watched on the tele...I wasn't Impressed.

Keith Urban opened up the Jersey show with a cool version of Gimme Shelter with Alicia Keyes-that guy is GOOD-you don't see many guys who can play lead guitar while singing lead-and not just in between fills....and he has a kicking wife

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Keith Urban opened up the Jersey show with a cool version of Gimme Shelter with Alicia Keyes-that guy is GOOD-you don't see many guys who can play lead guitar while singing lead-and not just in between fills....and he has a kicking wife

I caught a little bit of the Crowded House show. They sounded pretty good as well.

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I read in the paper today that the "Green Conscious" Madonna, leaves an annual "carbon footprint" 100 times greater than the average Briton. Ahh, the hypocrisy.

You know who the papers are controlled by, right? That's right, Madonna's enemies.

She's just a sweet girl, don't believe the hype.

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