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Ranking all 32 teams at quarterback

Mike Tanier / FootballOutsiders.com

Posted: 11 hours ago

When ranking NFL quarterbacks, it's pretty easy to fill in slots three thru 32. Picking No. 1 and No. 2, on the other hand, is a real headache.

Who do you prefer? The reigning champion or the three-time champion? Which stat do you find more impressive

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17. Panthers (2006 Rank: 15)

While his overall stats didn't look bad, Jake Delhomme grades out as a below-average quarterback according to DVOA. Our system evaluates things that aren't obvious in the stat totals, like six interceptions, 12 sacks, and a 50.4 completion percentage on third down. Delhomme has great accuracy and throws an excellent deep ball, but he forces lots of passes, makes bad reads, and doesn't feel the pass rush until after the ball has been stripped. Too many Panthers losses last season were decided by Delhomme miscues.

Backup David Carr completed 68.3 percent of his passes last season, but most of his receivers were three yards away in the Texans' dink-and-dunk attack. Carr is a tough competitor, but he's wobbly after enduring 249 sacks in five seasons, and he never had great athleticism or fundamentals. Sophomore Brett Basanez is smart and looks the part, but the Steelers defense ate him up in his lone outing last season.

18. Bills (2006 Rank: 32)

J.P. Losman improved tremendously in the last two seasons. He's still a mad bomber who likes to take chances deep, but last season he learned to check down and use his underneath receivers more effectively. Losman still takes too many hits, but he no longer tucks and runs before his receivers have time to flash open. Losman's emergence keeps Craig Nall on the bench, where he must be mighty comfortable. Nall has never started an NFL game, but he has a gaudy 139.4 career passer rating thanks to some mop-up work in Green Bay. Rookie Trent Edwards is smart but injury prone and doesn't have a great arm.

19. Giants (2006 Rank: 18)

Eli Manning appeared to turn the corner at the start of last season. He threw nine touchdown passes in his first four games, completed 67.1 percent of his passes, and brushed off an eight-sack pounding by the Eagles to lead an improbable comeback. Then came a miserable November stretch; the Giants kept losing, and every Manning pass seemed to be two seconds too late or five yards too high. Manning has a quick trigger and can drop a bomb into a receiver's arms 40 yards downfield like he's sinking a free throw. But zone blitzes mystify him and, unlike his brother, he makes some awful game management decisions. Eli is no lost cause, but it will be tough for him to get better while battling opponents, his own overmatched coaches, and the often hostile Big Apple media.

The Giants backups are more interesting than effective. Jared Lorenzen looks like Billy Kilmer after a White Castle Crave Case binge. Tim Hasselbeck's wife hates Rosie O'Donnell.

20. Lions (2006 Rank: 24)

Jon Kitna finished 11th in the NFL in DPAR, but even Football Outsiders stats can be snookered once in a while. DVOA ranked him as a league-average quarterback, but an average quarterback who throws 596 passes is a pretty valuable commodity. Kitna was exceptional in the final two weeks of last season

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12. Jets (2006 Rank: 26)

Chad Pennington is the best play-faker in the NFL, and few can match his touch and timing on crossing routes. The Jets would rank much higher if Pennington could throw deep. Only five percent of his passes traveled more than 25 yards in the air, one of the lowest figures in the league. The handful of bombs he did throw fluttered like plastic bags in an autumn breeze. Pennington looked like a budding star before the shoulder injuries; now, he seems destined to have a Brad Johnson career. There are worse fates; Johnson, after all, won a Super Bowl.

Sophomore Kellen Clemens gets high marks from the Lewin Career Forecast, and Eric Mangini hinted early in the off-season that Clemens would get a chance to challenge Pennington. But Clemens didn't perform well in mini-camp and may face a challenge from fleet-footed ex-Raider Marques Tuiasosopo for the backup role.

:rl: Somewhere TX is pissing himself right about now.

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Ranking all 32 teams at quarterback

Mike Tanier / FootballOutsiders.com

Posted: 11 hours ago

When ranking NFL quarterbacks, it's pretty easy to fill in slots three thru 32. Picking No. 1 and No. 2, on the other hand, is a real headache.

Who do you prefer? The reigning champion or the three-time champion? Which stat do you find more impressive — 12 playoff victories or 275 career touchdown passes? Do you like the guy who silenced his doubters last year or the guy who never had any doubters?

The following rankings are based on team depth charts, not just starters. So we're really pitting Peyton Manning, Jim Sorgi, and John Navarre against Tom Brady, Matt Cassell, and Matt Gutierrez. Does it really matter? When you think about Patriots vs. Colts, do you think of Sorgi vs. Cassell? If Matt Gutierrez fell in the woods, would he make a sound?

At Football Outsiders, we've done our homework. We've ranked the quarterbacks from all 32 teams based on our groundbreaking DVOA and DPAR metrics, our scouting and game charting data, and a healthy dollop of horse sense. For rookies and prospects, we used the Lewin Career Forecast System, a projection method so accurate that it has generated some sizzle among NFL insiders (you can read more about DVOA, DPAR, and Lewin's Career Forecast System in Football Prospectus 2007, available wherever fine paperbacks are sold). Armed with this arsenal, we can definitively say who's tops among NFL signal callers.

Here's a hint: he does a lot of commercials.

12. Jets (2006 Rank: 26)

Chad Pennington is the best play-faker in the NFL, and few can match his touch and timing on crossing routes. The Jets would rank much higher if Pennington could throw deep. Only five percent of his passes traveled more than 25 yards in the air, one of the lowest figures in the league. The handful of bombs he did throw fluttered like plastic bags in an autumn breeze. Pennington looked like a budding star before the shoulder injuries; now, he seems destined to have a Brad Johnson career. There are worse fates; Johnson, after all, won a Super Bowl.

Sophomore Kellen Clemens gets high marks from the Lewin Career Forecast, and Eric Mangini hinted early in the off-season that Clemens would get a chance to challenge Pennington. But Clemens didn't perform well in mini-camp and may face a challenge from fleet-footed ex-Raider Marques Tuiasosopo for the backup role.

wow, it says Clemens would get a chance to challenge for starting QB in camp this year. I doubt it though.

Oh and......:rl: :rl: :rl:

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It's really not entirely true though... when he sets himself he's somewhat capable of getting the ball out there (the throw to Moss vs. SD 2 years ago, and the non-catch to Baker vs. Cleveland last year being 2 examples)

Yeah, on those throws he put so much into it that he landed face first on the follow through. :lol:

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How the F is Kansas City with Damon Huard and Brodie Croyle ranked above Green Bay with Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers?:eek:

I like Croyle, I think he can do well, but I also think he needed more than 1 year on the bench, and Herm is going to throw him into the fire way too quickly in a division that continues to see its top dogs (San Diego and Denver) get even better. Good luck Brodie. Boy is LJ going to get a ton of work if he decides to play all 16 games.

Oh and why shouldn't J.P. be ahead of Eli, BZ? Eli is as inconsisent as they come and J.P. is on the rise. I'll take Losman over the little Manning anyday. At least he doesn't throw off his back foot and throw up hail mary's when the game is on the line.

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Oh and why shouldn't J.P. be ahead of Eli, BZ? Eli is as inconsisent as they come and J.P. is on the rise. I'll take Losman over the little Manning anyday. At least he doesn't throw off his back foot and throw up hail mary's when the game is on the line.

I would put Eli ahead of JP. I just don't think JP is going to wind up to be anything.

BZ

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Chad could make up for the arm strength by working on getting set properly for deep balls... he hasnt been able to work on it much though because of the injuries... hopefully he worked on getting his hips/legs/torso stronger this off season... and hopefully shotty is working on some techniques for throwing it deep better...

Somebody with Chad's arm strength can throw a deep ball... its a matter of how to do it... it takes a while to adjust your throwing motion after two surgeries... hopefully he has got it down now...

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Chad could make up for the arm strength by working on getting set properly for deep balls... he hasnt been able to work on it much though because of the injuries... hopefully he worked on getting his hips/legs/torso stronger this off season... and hopefully shotty is working on some techniques for throwing it deep better...

Somebody with Chad's arm strength can throw a deep ball... its a matter of how to do it... it takes a while to adjust your throwing motion after two surgeries... hopefully he has got it down now...

Dead on balls accurate.

Chad will never be a gun slinger, but his intangibles far outweigh is inability to whip it down the field.

BZ

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