harris5214 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Anybody else hear that the BIG 10 is looking to expand to 12 teams, it has 11 now. Rutgers, Pitt., Syracuse, and Mizzou, are the main targets. I`ll try and find the article. I`m not a Rutgers fan, but for one hope Rutgers gets invited, I would love to see Ohio St. or Mich. playing in NJ. http://http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2007-07-25-network-expansion_N.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Anybody else hear that the BIG 10 is looking to expand to 12 teams, it has 11 now. Rutgers, Pitt., Syracuse, and Mizzou, are the main targets. I`ll try and find the article. I`m not a Rutgers fan, but for one hope Rutgers gets invited, I would love to see Ohio St. or Mich. playing in NJ. I think that Rutgers should look into this, not only will it draw more attention recruit and fan wise. I along with many other Jersey natives would be a ton more interested in Rutgers if they were playing Ohio State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, or Purdue. Than when they are playing WVU, Louisville, Buffalo, Navy, Pitt, and Uconn. It will bring them money, recruits, ratings, fans, and most importantly help put asses in those seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I wish they would move a little more western and pick up Boise St.... but thats too far away most likely. I just wish the Broncos had the chance to play in a competitive conference and get the respect that they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 The WAC is getting competitive, it might be the "new" conference, but Rutgers in the Big 10? Weekly slaughter, the Big East is overrated and sucks, and this is coming from a Syracuse fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I wish they would move a little more western and pick up Boise St.... but thats too far away most likely. I just wish the Broncos had the chance to play in a competitive conference and get the respect that they deserve. Completely true, if the Broncs were in the, say, PAC 10, they would've been in the Nat. Championship, but since they are in the WAC, they got no love. anywayz, to Green_Blood, Rutgers could compete with the Big ten solely on the fact that they are now getting 3/4 of the NJ recruits, and NJ is a top 5 high school football state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I would I ever LOVE to see Rutgers go into the Big 10 to make it a Big 12 of the North. RU playing against Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, Purdue, Iowa and Wisconsin? Boy would those thousands of Rutgers fans sit right back down on their couches for another 25 years after more 2-10, 3-9 and 4-8 seasons and all the helmets, t-shirts and hats be out of my store and other stores across New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 How do they propose they are going to pry Misery away from the Big 12? More importantly, what are they going to call themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Completely true, if the Broncs were in the, say, PAC 10, they would've been in the Nat. Championship, but since they are in the WAC, they got no love. Actually no they wouldn't have. They wouldn't have even been undefeated if they had played some decent teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Rutgers is overrated beyond comparison here where I live. Can't wait for the bandwagon to hit some bumps, fall into a ditch and light on fire. Does Rutgers get the best NJ recruits, NO. Teel is a really consistent QB, and as everyone knows, Brain Leonard is god the father and Ray Rice is the son, the savior, the alpha and omega, NOT. Of course he put up yards like that, he was the offense. Kansas State is such a major power, all Rutgers is and was last season was hype. Put Rutgers into the Big 10, 12, SEC or PAC 10, and they will be slaughtered. The Big East is a joke. Bowl wins over mid major or crappy programs like ECU don't mean ****. The Big East sucks, Notre Dame sucks, face it, stop looking through scarlet glasses. Do you know how many people gave a damn about Rutgers before this season, not many at all. Midway through the season, everyone is clad in Scarlet attire claiming that THEY HAVE been fans all this time, while the year before, they were Penn State, Texas or USC fans. Me, I have been sitting around in my Orange shirts with my thumb up my ass, but I know this, I am not one of these damn bandwagon idiots. The dream is over everyone! How many Rutgers fans went to games after the slaughter in Morgantown, huh? Get one o lineman recruit and everyone is creaming their pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Anybody else hear that the BIG 10 is looking to expand to 12 teams, it has 11 now. Rutgers, Pitt., Syracuse, and Mizzou, are the main targets. I`ll try and find the article. I`m not a Rutgers fan, but for one hope Rutgers gets invited, I would love to see Ohio St. or Mich. playing in NJ. http://http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2007-07-25-network-expansion_N.htm Iowa State is probably the logical choice. They play Iowa each year. None of the Big East teams make sense. Syracuse and Pitt suck, while Rutgers had one good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Rutgers is overrated beyond comparison here where I live. Can't wait for the bandwagon to hit some bumps, fall into a ditch and light on fire. Does Rutgers get the best NJ recruits, NO. Teel is a really consistent QB, and as everyone knows, Brain Leonard is god the father and Ray Rice is the son, the savior, the alpha and omega, NOT. Of course he put up yards like that, he was the offense. Kansas State is such a major power, all Rutgers is and was last season was hype. Put Rutgers into the Big 10, 12, SEC or PAC 10, and they will be slaughtered. The Big East is a joke. Bowl wins over mid major or crappy programs like ECU don't mean ****. The Big East sucks, Notre Dame sucks, face it, stop looking through scarlet glasses. Do you know how many people gave a damn about Rutgers before this season, not many at all. Midway through the season, everyone is clad in Scarlet attire claiming that THEY HAVE been fans all this time, while the year before, they were Penn State, Texas or USC fans. Me, I have been sitting around in my Orange shirts with my thumb up my ass, but I know this, I am not one of these damn bandwagon idiots. The dream is over everyone! How many Rutgers fans went to games after the slaughter in Morgantown, huh? Get one o lineman recruit and everyone is creaming their pants. One oline recruit, try the top RB in NJ last year, the top LB in NJ this year, along with the top DE and CB.... Right, they don't get good recruits... try hitting Rivals.com everyonce in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Because, I don't have all of the time in the world to go in depth into every damn state's prospects. Does reading what other people write about something, and then you believing it as true make you an expert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Actually no they wouldn't have. They wouldn't have even been undefeated if they had played some decent teams. Exactly. Boise State was a great story, but let's be realistic. The Fiesta Bowl was their Superbowl, it was a glorified scrimmage for OU. One oline recruit, try the top RB in NJ last year, the top LB in NJ this year, along with the top DE and CB.... Right, they don't get good recruits... try hitting Rivals.com everyonce in a while Wow. NJ is the mecca of HS football. Those kids in two years will be saying, "why didn't I take the offer from (insert relevant college football program here)." If top recruits from Florida, California, Texas or anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line start flocking to Rutgers, then Rutgers has arrived. Until then, scoring a few in-state recruits a year after a noteworthy year means little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Exactly. Boise State was a great story, but let's be realistic. The Fiesta Bowl was their Superbowl, it was a glorified scrimmage for OU. Wow. NJ is the mecca of HS football. Those kids in two years will be saying, "why didn't I take the offer from (insert relevant college football program here)." If top recruits from Florida, California, Texas or anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line start flocking to Rutgers, then Rutgers has arrived. Until then, scoring a few in-state recruits a year after a noteworthy year means little. I can obviously tell you don't know what you are talking about. New Jersey is a top 5 High School football state, getting 1/2 of those recruits can help a school drastically, stick to NFL, you don't know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can obviously tell you don't know what you are talking about. New Jersey is a top 5 High School football state, getting 1/2 of those recruits can help a school drastically, stick to NFL, you don't know what you are talking about. Top 5? Are you on crack? Califonia Texas Florida Ohio Pennsylvania Anywhere in SEC country or Big 12 country. Maybe you should look at that rivals.com you mentioned. Out of the Top 100 recruits: NJ had one top (#17) recruit in the 2008 class. NJ had two top (#34 and #68) in the 2007 class NJ had three top (#12, #29 and 73) in the 2006 class Jersey has 7 - 4 and 5 star rated recruits according to Rivals. NC has 9. VA has 7. MD has 7. AL has 16. GA has 16. LA has 9. SC has 10. MI has 8. AZ has 8. NJ is nowhere near a Top 5 HS football state. They have talent, but there are five states easily better and a handful more that produce more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 If they get a 12th team, will they finally call it the Big Eleven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 rutgers would get pulverized weekly in the big ten. michigan would lay an unholy stomping on the scarlet knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Top 5? Are you on crack? Califonia Texas Florida Ohio Pennsylvania Anywhere in SEC country or Big 12 country. Maybe you should look at that rivals.com you mentioned. Out of the Top 100 recruits: NJ had one top (#17) recruit in the 2008 class. NJ had two top (#34 and #68) in the 2007 class NJ had three top (#12, #29 and 73) in the 2006 class Jersey has 7 - 4 and 5 star rated recruits according to Rivals. NC has 9. VA has 7. MD has 7. AL has 16. GA has 16. LA has 9. SC has 10. MI has 8. AZ has 8. NJ is nowhere near a Top 5 HS football state. They have talent, but there are five states easily better and a handful more that produce more talent. Okay, just using stats that you find don't make it that you know what you are talking about, because you obviously don't. I can mark you as the only person whom thinks NJ isn't a good high school football state, I will now end argument with you, and no longer speak to a homer to your degree, anywayz, did you ever even play football, I don't even think you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I can obviously tell you don't know what you are talking about. New Jersey is a top 5 High School football state, getting 1/2 of those recruits can help a school drastically, stick to NFL, you don't know what you are talking about. did you just call out our resident pats fan? PFKISHsLSJOIEULJK knows his chit, just admit you don't know what you are talking about and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 If they get a 12th team, will they finally call it the Big Eleven? It's called the Big 10 now because Northwestern doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 did you just call out our resident pats fan? PFKISHsLSJOIEULJK knows his chit, just admit you don't know what you are talking about and move on. I don't know anything about NewJersey high school football? I've experienced football in NJ first hand and are speaking from personal experience, he is speaking from **** he found on Rivals.com. Get off of his shlong for 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I don't know anything about NewJersey high school football? I've experienced football in NJ first hand and are speaking from personal experience, he is speaking from **** he found on Rivals.com. Get off of his shlong for 2 seconds. It's not a matter of being on his 'shlong' as yo ucall it. it's that all your posts are written without thinking. As soon as the Jets took Revis, you called him a Bust, you were so emphatic about it. By the time you realized you had no ground to stand on, you backed down. So you saying you know something about anything at this point, is incorrect. Although i'm sure you'd like to see a dude on someone else's shlong, you won't see it with me (today anyway ). Get used to the fact that PFISCKISH is smart, and you are not. It's really not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 It's not a matter of being on his 'shlong' as yo ucall it. it's that all your posts are written without thinking. As soon as the Jets took Revis, you called him a Bust, you were so emphatic about it. By the time you realized you had no ground to stand on, you backed down. So you saying you know something about anything at this point, is incorrect. Although i'm sure you'd like to see a dude on someone else's shlong, you won't see it with me (today anyway ). Get used to the fact that PFISCKISH is smart, and you are not. It's really not a big deal. I still think Revis was overrated and that he was a wasted pick. Who are you anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 if you're so right about nj being a top 5 football state, why are you afraid to debate a guy who posts stats in good faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 if you're so right about nj being a top 5 football state, why are you afraid to debate a guy who posts stats in good faith? Where did I state I was afraid to debate him, you can obviously tell that there is no changing his mind, debating anyone on this site is a waste of time, since it is impossible to change their point of view. PFSIKH is going to ridicule and ignore anything I say, why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I still think Revis was overrated and that he was a wasted pick. Who are you anyway? back to your quality posts i see. if you're so right about nj being a top 5 football state, why are you afraid to debate a guy who posts stats in good faith? sort of the point i was making, i don't think he can debate without getting upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 back to your quality posts i see. sort of the point i was making, i don't think he can debate without getting upset. Where did I get upset? Aren't you the guy who doesn't like showers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 back to your quality posts i see. sort of the point i was making, i don't think he can debate without getting upset. Ouch, some kid says he doesn't like my comments over the internet. Painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Where did I state I was afraid to debate him, you can obviously tell that there is no changing his mind, debating anyone on this site is a waste of time, since it is impossible to change their point of view. PFSIKH is going to ridicule and ignore anything I say, why bother? you threw a hissy when he posted stats from rivals.com. he made a nice argument. usually, people who are confident they are right don't resort to ad hominem attacks saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about because he relies on real evidence to back his argument up. maybe if you had a leg to stand up on, you wouldn't be pissing all over yourself trying to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I feel that there is no need for argument. NJ is a top 5 high school FB state, period, millions agree with me, i'm fine if some chowd doesn't believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildthing2022000 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I feel that there is no need for argument. NJ is a top 15 high school FB state, period, millions agree with me, i'm fine if some chowd doesn't believe me. Fixed it, you could make a better case for Alabama being a top 5 than NJ. Tens of millions also agree that NJ isn't a top 5 HS FB state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Who are you anyway? Aren't you the guy who doesn't like showers? I'm confused? thanks for the neg rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Where did I state I was afraid to debate him, you can obviously tell that there is no changing his mind, debating anyone on this site is a waste of time, since it is impossible to change their point of view. PFSIKH is going to ridicule and ignore anything I say, why bother? Shadow my only point is that NJ is not a Top 5 state in HS football. There are clearly 5 states better then NJ when it comes to HS recruiting. I only used the site you referenced to make my point. Again, I am not saying NJ sucks as a HS football state or has no talent. You can be butt hurt all you want, but your personal 'experience' aside, there is more talent in other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I feel that there is no need for argument. NJ is a top 5 high school FB state, period, millions agree with me, i'm fine if some chowd doesn't believe me. tens of millions also think michael vick was a good qb. the only point you've proven is that opinions are like arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I sense NJ homerism in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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