JonEJet Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 "King" Pettitte ($16 million a year): 7 innings 119 pitches 6 Hits 3 Earned Runs 2 Walks 6 K's 2 HR's Sir Andy = W MatSuxSUCKA = L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I say we rename the gyroball, the falafel ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Matsuzaka, while he has been decent, has been owned all season long by the Yankees, his ERA going into today was 6.95, he didn't improve on it by too much today either. I don't know if it's the depth of the Batting order, or whatever, but he just can't get through the Yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Mussina has the same problem........with the entire league ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Matsuzaka, while he has been decent, has been owned all season long by the Yankees, his ERA going into today was 6.95, he didn't improve on it by too much today either. I don't know if it's the depth of the Batting order, or whatever, but he just can't get through the Yankees. He gave up a 315 foot HR that made it a 5-3 game. You are making him out to be Mussina like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Matsuzaka, while he has been decent, has been owned all season long by the Yankees, his ERA going into today was 6.95, he didn't improve on it by too much today either. I don't know if it's the depth of the Batting order, or whatever, but he just can't get through the Yankees. Despite all of their problems, the Yankees have more elite hitters than any other team. Plus, no matter the situation, they seem to play their best against the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Matsuzaka, while he has been decent, has been owned all season long by the Yankees, his ERA going into today was 6.95, he didn't improve on it by too much today either. I don't know if it's the depth of the Batting order, or whatever, but he just can't get through the Yankees. It's easy. The Yankees are a patient team that makes good contact. He has not been great against the Yankees, but he has more than earned his money this season, considering some of the other pitchers out there making more and performing worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Despite all of their problems, the Yankees have more elite hitters than any other team. Plus, no matter the situation, they seem to play their best against the Sox. That's what happens when rivalries come around, regardless the standings, etc. Teams play their best, it's like that in every sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It's easy. The Yankees are a patient team that makes good contact. He has not been great against the Yankees, but he has more than earned his money this season, considering some of the other pitchers out there making more and performing worse. *Cough* Barry Zito *Cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 That's what happens when rivalries come around, regardless the standings, etc. Teams play their best, it's like that in every sport. Absolutely. The great thing about baseball, is you get the chance to even it out the very next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Absolutely. The great thing about baseball, is you get the chance to even it out the very next day. Yeah, tomorrow's game should be a good one. I'll try to make it back from practice on time, I should. Let's see which Clemens we get tomorrow, we need him at his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 dicek is a good pitcher, but it seems he's lost a few ticks on his best fastball in the past month. And that whole "he's a top 5 pitcher in the world" hype was just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 dicek is a good pitcher, but it seems he's lost a few ticks on his best fastball in the past month. And that whole "he's a top 5 pitcher in the world" hype was just that. I never/still don't bought/buy into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Yeah, tomorrow's game should be a good one. I'll try to make it back from practice on time, I should. Let's see which Clemens we get tomorrow, we need him at his best. He usually steps it up against the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 dicek is a good pitcher, but it seems he's lost a few ticks on his best fastball in the past month. And that whole "he's a top 5 pitcher in the world" hype was just that. I never once heard anyone say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Yeah, tomorrow's game should be a good one. I'll try to make it back from practice on time, I should. Let's see which Clemens we get tomorrow, we need him at his best. Roger "show me the money" Clemens pitches tomorrow. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 dicek is a good pitcher, but it seems he's lost a few ticks on his best fastball in the past month. And that whole "he's a top 5 pitcher in the world" hype was just that. I think next year will be a better year for him. Kind of like the Beckett effect. Not up to standards and then a big turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I never once heard anyone say that. I heard it, but you can guess what overhyped, useless Sports news station in Bristol,Connecticut said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Roger "show me the money" Clemens pitches tomorrow. Excellent. He might give us a good game, we'll see. We need every game we can get as we close onto September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I heard it, but you can guess what overhyped, useless Sports news station in Bristol,Connecticut said that. I honestly never heard that, but I wouldn't put it past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I honestly never heard that, but I wouldn't put it past them. Look at the chick in my avatar, isn't she hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Look at the chick in my avatar, isn't she hot? I googled her twice already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 Lets get back to the thread Dice-L is nothing more than a disappointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Lets get back to the thread Dice-L is nothing more than a disappointment Speaking of disappointments, guess which future hall of famer is 2-2 with a 5.35 ERA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 My sig > all of joo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I never once heard anyone say that. It was either boras, or random scouts who kept saying he was a top 5 pitcher in the WORLD. espn mentioned it about 50 f'n times every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It was either boras, or random scouts who kept saying he was a top 5 pitcher in the WORLD. espn mentioned it about 50 f'n times every day. It was probably Boras then. I refuse to listen to that jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 It was either boras, or random scouts who kept saying he was a top 5 pitcher in the WORLD. espn mentioned it about 50 f'n times every day. Probably Boras. Despite JonE's ridiculous rants, he is far from a disappointment. Considering all he has to deal with (i.e. changing leagues, the expectations, different cultures, Sox fans, etc.) since last year, he has been pretty good. It is not all about the W/L record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 Probably Boras. Despite JonE's ridiculous rants, he is far from a disappointment. Considering all he has to deal with (i.e. changing leagues, the expectations, different cultures, Sox fans, etc.) since last year, he has been pretty good. It is not all about the W/L record. I guess you must like the taste of his goo Otherwise he is nothing more than a 4 or 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I guess you must like the taste of his goo Otherwise he is nothing more than a 4 or 5 Short of Andy, he is better then anything the Yanks can throw out there. BTW good luck finding 100 pitchers better then him. I am curious to see your list though. Or is this graded on the MadMike grade curve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbok Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 i expected him to better then what he has already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 If you say he is anything less than a huge disappointment, would only further the evidence of complete homerism by your part Look at things objectively, like I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Look at things objectively, like I do Classic comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Objective? I'm pretty sure that Yankees will get in the post season with a WC. I'm pretty sure that any Red Sox fan that says they feel confident going against the Yankees in the playoff's is lying. There is a certain swagger the Yankees have when playing their foes from North on 95. I can't explain it - it's just there for all to see on TV. Jon is half-right, Dice-K has been disappointing. I can't say that I am surprised. The expectations were ridiculous. The real bust, however, is that idiot J.D. Drew. Jeez, did Theo whiff with that acquisition or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I've said all along that I expected great things from Dice-K and I still do. I wouldn't be all that thrilled about the way he's pitched against the Yanks if I were a Sox fan but he definitely has top end of the rotation kind of stuff. As far as him being one of the top five pitchers on the planet, I too recall hearing that said a few times and it wasn't by Boras. One time was on a sports radio show that had a ML talent evaluator on who had seen him in the WBC and in Japan. He said that the money the Sox spent would be worth it because "this guy is one of the five best pitchers in the world". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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