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WOW! Incredible! Herm Edwards Press Conference - 9/4

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21 points is a lot and 30 isn't a football game? That's....no wonder why his teams tend to be near the bottom of the league in offense. You should aspire to average 21 maybe, not have that be the outlier score.

I remember after the Jacksonville playoff game in Jan 1999, Parcells said ''we had to score at least 30 points to have a chance to win this game''. he never said control the clock or ball. Herm is a ****ing idiot.

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I'll tell ya BP-after watching Hard Knocks the past month one thing is clear to me-this ain't Herman Edwards' team this is Carl Petersen's team-just like Dallas will always be Jerry Jones' team and Oakland Al Davis' team-Herm should be thanking his lucky stars that he has Gunther Cunningham for his DC-he'll keep him in a lot of the games and if Tony G and Larry Johnson can do their magic they may actually be around .500

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I'll tell ya BP-after watching Hard Knocks the past month one thing is clear to me-this ain't Herman Edwards' team this is Carl Petersen's team-just like Dallas will always be Jerry Jones' team and Oakland Al Davis' team-Herm should be thanking his lucky stars that he has Gunther Cunningham for his DC-he'll keep him in a lot of the games and if Tony G and Larry Johnson can do their magic they may actually be around .500

I had this dream that the Jets will be playing for a first round bye and a home playoff game against the Chiefs on December 30th, and that they crush and humiliate the Chiefs to a roaring crowd. that would make me very happy.

He'll bail once he no longer has a running back, that's his bread and butter. and without that he may have to use his brain. oh noes!

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I had this dream that the Jets will be playing for a first round bye and a home playoff game against the Chiefs on December 30th, and that they crush and humiliate the Chiefs to a roaring crowd. that would make me very happy.

He'll bail once he no longer has a running back, that's his bread and butter. and without that he may have to use his brain. oh noes!

that's a Sunday night game BP...I wish I could be there-you guys that will be are going to hand it to him hard I'm sure...I hope there are some great well thought out signs in the crowd for the National audience

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Q: Can you explain the chart [on wall]?

EDWARDS: ”[Pointing] Generally you get the ball around 12 possessions [a game] unless you turn the ball over a bunch. Out of those 12 possessions probably five times you’re going to be inside the Gold Zone [inside the opponent’s 30-yard line]. What do you do when you’re there? Do you score touchdowns or kick field goals?

“When you look at us in the pre-season we had the ball an average of 11 times but our problem was we only got in the Gold Zone 2.8 times. That’s not good. You want to average five or six if you can. I have a possession chart I always carry with me on the side so that after eight possessions I kind of know we’re probably only going to get the ball back four more times.

“What you do inside that goal area is very important. Our players are starting to understand that. They need to learn that. That’s a big part of football, something we talk about a lot. Our defense has done a pretty good job in the Gold Zone and hasn’t allowed a lot of touchdowns. We’ve made them kick field goals.

“We kind of structure our practice that way, the way we think. Players have to think like coaches and at the end of the day they have to know you only touch the ball this many times. Just start counting. Within those possessions you get about six plays when you average them all out. You might go on a 12-play drive, but there might be a three-play drive. Generally it’s about six plays for every possession. Know the situations and where you’re at.”

Herm believes that saying “we need to score” or “we need to move the ball forward” is the same as coming up with a way to actually accomplish said goal. He learned his scoring strategy from the Simpsons. Remember softball mgr Montgomery Burns? “You – Strawberry – hit a home run!”

Q: Houston head coach Kubiak knows this team so well from his time coaching in Denver. What kind of advantage is that for him in putting together a game play?

EDWARDS: “They’re going to boot, play-action; they’re going to go run stretch. They were successful doing that. He’s built his team a little bit like that. But that being said we’re a little bit different on defense than the past.”

Yes, I’m sure that Kubiak is going to gameplan what you just announced to the media that you think he’s going to do, Herm. Exactly that & no more & no less. You fool.

Q: How are you better prepared to defend that?

EDWARDS: “Knock on wood, we played Denver twice last year. They run Denver’s offense. We have an idea what they’re going to do. Now, can we stop it? I don’t know. But we’ll find out.”

Stopping someone’s offense is a matter of not jinxing yourself by saying, “Knock on wood”?

Q: How much stronger does Damon Huard appear to be after his injury?

EDWARDS: “He’s a lot better. Last year in the pre-season he was hurt so he didn’t play a lot. He actually played more in the pre-season this year: he played 23 [sna this pre-season and 18 last pre-season. The good thing about Damon is he’s been in this position before in his career as far as coming off the bench and playing. Now he’s a starter and he hasn’t been in a long time. So, I think he’s excited about having this opportunity. This was part of the deal when he signed with us. He wanted the opportunity to compete to be the starter and we opened the competition up and he ended up being the starter.”

Yeah, Damon was a starter last year until you benched a guy who threw 1 interception in 8+ games. Now he’s a starter despite your best efforts to start a guy who hadn’t earned it.

Q: At defensive end what did Jimmy Wilkerson do to win that spot over Turk McBride?

EDWARDS: “Experience and being in the system for two years. He got to the quarterback a lot in the pre-season. He’s a much more mature player now than he was. We drafted him as a junior.

Translation: Wilkerson is a relative veteran. A veteran should only be removed from the starting lineup if he is injured. McBride is a rookie. Rookies have no business on a football field.

“Now, we’ll go with a seven man rotation [along the defensive line] and when Jared comes back it’ll be eight man. All those guys will play probably 25 to 30 plays, which is good for us. We couldn’t do that last year defensively.

I am disappointed. I was expecting him to finish up with: “So that’s 7 men times 25 plays equals 175 plays they’re going to be in on. You can’t argue math. I tried to argue math once. I had 20 Fig Newtons in my fridge & ate one. I should have 19 left, right? I drew it out on a poster with my magic markers & every time I came up with 19. But there were only 17 left. Why? Turns out Lia ate two of them. Math. Math.”

“Basically there are 18 [new] players on our defense since I arrived last year. You talk about 20 new players total from last year and eight more new ones on our practice squad and that’s 28. That’s OK. We have a good mix of veteran guys on offense and some few veterans on defense. More are starting on offense.”

I just picture his idea of “work” as sitting with a crayon & paper & making columns of how many players are in column A & column B or how many runs this team or that team had, etc. No devising of ways to beat an opponent. Just kindergarten on-paper-only analysis of what has transpired as though he’s never actually watched a game before. It would certainly explain his “who farted” look every time he expects an opponent to do the same exact thing every single time & they don’t.

Q: How much having Jason Dunn will help your rushing game?

EDWARDS: “He helps you run it and you have to have a tight end if you’re going to be able to block. That’s what he can do well. Now, he wasn’t involved in the pre-season either. You talk about the pre-season you’re talking about a lot of starters on offense that didn’t participate, similar to what happened to us last year in the pre-season due to injury. That’s what happens to you. You have to make sure if it’s a veteran guy you give him the ability to get well. Now most of those guys are well.”

A Mangini (or Belichick or any competent coach) would simply say, “He’s a good blocker so it’s good to have him back.” But Hermie needs to speak in excess like a car needs gasoline.

Q: Do you imagine much of a load for Jason?

EDWARDS: “We’re still going to run the football. He’s going to be involved in the running game. You have to be able to run the football especially if we want to keep our defense fresh. The time of possession needs to be on your side. Generally, if you keep the ball for over 31 minutes, 85% of the time you win the game. That’s another deal we talk about.”

“We’re STILL going to run the football”??? Does he think anyone in the country expected him to pass it?

Q: In baseball they have pitch counts, is LJ [Larry Johnson] on a play count?

EDWARDS: “Yeah, and I have an idea. When we’re home I’ve got an idea that I’m going to make these little cards where people – like they do in baseball – can actually mark it. I’m going to try to patent that. [laughs]

Yeah, the count is 25. This way he can only get 400 carries instead of 416 this year.

“He’s going to be on a little bit of a leash early. He carried the ball two or three times in St. Louis. So he has to get his legs underneath him. Michael Bennett is healthy and that’s good; it gives us another runner. We feel very comfortable with the runners we have. It’s not all on LJ. It’s tough on one guy and he did a yeoman’s job last year.

Yeah, I’m sure we’ll see lots of Michael Bennett this year.

“When I took this job I didn’t anticipate him carrying the ball that much. But injuries and losing the quarterback…the last time I checked you give the ball to your best player. He was our best player last year.

You had a QB you idiot. One who was doing a better job than the injured one. So to recap, “I was willing to risk the career of a player so that the 2006 Chiefs might end up 9-7 instead of possibly ending up 8-8 or 7-9.”

“It’s kind of ironic. He’s back, signed a big contract, now he’s not going to get the ball as much. The first thing he’s going to do is come to my office after the third game and ask, ‘why am I not getting the ball?’ That’s the question you will be asking after week four: ‘why won’t you give Larry the ball more?’ Oh really, last year you said we gave him the ball too much last year. He’ll get the ball.”

Herm’s favorite pastime: making up questions no one is asking him & then answering said questions.

Q: Is it going to be hard keeping him on a leash?

EDWARDS: “He’ll be fine the first two weeks because he knows he can’t do that. It’s about that fourth week. He knows and we’re protecting Larry. That’s important. The kind of guy he is, after week four I know what he’s going to do. He’s going to come up to me and say, ‘I can carry it a few more times if you need me to.”

“Now, it’s 25 [times] and now it’s 30 and I’m answering the question again: are you giving him the ball too much?”

Mike Kubiak: NOW HEAR THIS: I will not be giving the ball to Larry Johnson as much during our matchup. Be sure to write this down. I don’t want to keep any secrets from you.

Q: You can talk about it but, like you say, when the game’s on the line it’s hard to do?

EDWARDS: “It’s hard to do. I went through this with Curtis Martin [with the Jets]. Curtis told me, ‘I don’t get warmed up until I carry the ball at least 22 times.’ Now, if I give him 22 and he’s not warmed up yet and the 22 are pretty good, then I say I’ll give him more so he’s really going to do good. We’ll find out.”

If Curtis really said that to him, he’s a bigger ass than I ever thought. If you suck for 15 carries & we’re letting a game get away, we should not put anyone else out there. On the contrary, we need to give you 8 more carries before you get “warmed up” to reap better production? How self-serving can a player be? And how friggin’ dumb is Herm for letting him do it?

Q: Is this team transformed like you wanted since you came here? Are you as young as you’d like?

EDWARDS: “We are younger in some spots. We have some veteran guys on offense that are still very good players. So we have some stability on offense. Now, defensively we have 18 new players since I arrived here last year which is heading in the right direction. We’re going to play a lot of defensive guys. We feel comfortable putting 16 of those guys on our football team that are going to be in some type of rotation. The majority of defensive players – an average of around 21 or 22 players – they have to play special teams and enhance us there. Offensively, the two newer guys are two receivers and a healthy Michael Bennett will help too.”

See above comment about Herm’s crayon-colored column A (2006) & column B (2007). What the hell does player turnover have to do with improving the team? They won fewer games in ’06 than they did in ’05. They will win fewer games in ’07 than they did in ’06. Analyze that one, Herm. Oh – and then ask for a raise. Dick.

Q: How is Michael Bennett this year compared to last?

EDWARDS: “He’s got his legs underneath him and now more confident in his offense. We know more about Michael Bennett than we did when he first arrived in training camp and got nicked and couldn’t play a lot. Then he got nicked again and it was one of those deals. I think we saw a little glimpse of him Thanksgiving against Denver last year; you saw what he could bring to the table. He’s been involved in the offense all off-season; he’s gotten a lot of reps due to the fact that Larry wasn’t in training camp. All of a sudden you’ve got some guys who have played in the system more.”

Michael Bennett will be a big part of the Chiefs offense. After all…Herm promised the backup RB more carries.

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Kubiak could beat the Edwards' Chiefs with your local high school team. Give the points.

The Chiefs had arguably the worst QB play of anyone all preseason.

Leftwich, who despite his clashes with another idiot in DelRio and questionable conditioning is a servicable NFL QB, gets cut.

They sign Thigpen.

Peterson may be trying to lose games, though Edwards doesn't have a clue he's being

set up for an underbussing.

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