124 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Yeah, 10+ yards per reception really blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 His rec total is great, his yardage is poor based on his recs and his production in cloe games isn't very good. Sunday was typical Wes. In a close game he doesn't do anything, takeaway his #s when the Pats are running up the score in blowouts and his #s are average. Still not worth the 2 picks and big contract. I disagree. He is the Patriots running game. Instead of handing the ball to a RB, TB makes a three yard toss to WW who then runs for a few more. W/O WW TB takes a sack when Moss is covered and the defense gets threw the O-line. He is a vital part of the spread offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Update time. I'm kind of disappointed that madmike was banned a few weeks ago as I'm sure he would enjoy this. 14 games: 96 receptions, 1004 yards, 8TD's why did he get banned? how come i'm always the last to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 You're not the last, Drago. It was news to me. Welcome news. As for Wes Welker, he turned out OK for the Patsies, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 His rec total is great, his yardage is poor based on his recs and his production in cloe games isn't very good. Sunday was typical Wes. In a close game he doesn't do anything, takeaway his #s when the Pats are running up the score in blowouts and his #s are average. Still not worth the 2 picks and big contract. Interesting theory...if it was actually correct. 1st. quarter - 24 - 279 yds. 2 TD 2nd. quarter - 26 - 267 yds. 2 TD 3rd. quarter - 17 - 202 yds. 1 TD 4th. quarter - 29 - 256 yds. 3 TD So statistically speaking the first two quarters are his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Just saw an ESPN profile on Welker and how he might be the best trade the Pats made this off-season. Had interviews with BB saying they traded for him because the pats had a hard time containing him even with double teams. They showed a few catches he made against the Pats where he was getting rocked while making the catch before even hitting the ground and he held on. The dude is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I would rather have Stuckey for a 7th than Wlker for a 2nd and a 7th Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Classic. There is a reason ecurb doesn't post here much anymore. Just about every single one of his predictions this year was flat out wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Jmac will have a better year than him That may be the most stupid comment in he history of Jetnation. I like Ecurb but Jesus Christ, J-MAC?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 There is a reason ecurb doesn't post here much anymore. Just about every single one of his predictions this year was flat out wrong! Sorry to disappoint you troller but that's NOT the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 That may be the most stupid comment in he history of Jetnation. I like Ecurb but Jesus Christ, J-MAC?!?!?! Nothin like feeding the trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Sorry to disappoint you troller but that's NOT the reason. Does it make you feel better when you call me a troll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Does it make you feel better when you call me a troll? Dats wat you est. As Kobe would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The thing I find most odd was not the trade. Dolphins really didn't have a choice, if they didn't trade him he would have left as a RFA, and they would have gotten a 2 round pick for him and a lot more paperwork. But the really ironic things about Welker is he couldn't get a starting job at Mia. In NE has started 12 of 14 games and has almost as many yards and rec this year in 12 games as he had in 2 seasons with Mia. He only started 3 games as a Dolphin. Does anybody really think that Mia in 2005 and 2006 had so much more depth at WR than NE does in 2007 to say that WW didn't have the skill set to be a started on the powerhouse that is the Dolphins, but when compared with the weak skill set of the other NE WR he rises to a starting role? Clearly Mia did not know how to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The thing I find most odd was not the trade. Dolphins really didn't have a choice, if they didn't trade him he would have left as a RFA, and they would have gotten a 2 round pick for him and a lot more paperwork. But the really ironic things about Welker is he couldn't get a starting job at Mia. In NE has started 12 of 14 games and has almost as many yards and rec this year in 12 games as he had in 2 seasons with Mia. He only started 3 games as a Dolphin. Does anybody really think that Mia in 2005 and 2006 had so much more depth at WR than NE does in 2007 to say that WW didn't have the skill set to be a started on the powerhouse that is the Dolphins, but when compared with the weak skill set of the other NE WR he rises to a starting role? Clearly Mia did not know how to use him. Apparently with their 1-13 record they didn't get any smarter this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The thing I find most odd was not the trade. Dolphins really didn't have a choice, if they didn't trade him he would have left as a RFA, and they would have gotten a 2 round pick for him and a lot more paperwork. But the really ironic things about Welker is he couldn't get a starting job at Mia. In NE has started 12 of 14 games and has almost as many yards and rec this year in 12 games as he had in 2 seasons with Mia. He only started 3 games as a Dolphin. Does anybody really think that Mia in 2005 and 2006 had so much more depth at WR than NE does in 2007 to say that WW didn't have the skill set to be a started on the powerhouse that is the Dolphins, but when compared with the weak skill set of the other NE WR he rises to a starting role? Clearly Mia did not know how to use him. Its called not having a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The thing I find most odd was not the trade. Dolphins really didn't have a choice, if they didn't trade him he would have left as a RFA, and they would have gotten a 2 round pick for him and a lot more paperwork. But the really ironic things about Welker is he couldn't get a starting job at Mia. In NE has started 12 of 14 games and has almost as many yards and rec this year in 12 games as he had in 2 seasons with Mia. He only started 3 games as a Dolphin. Does anybody really think that Mia in 2005 and 2006 had so much more depth at WR than NE does in 2007 to say that WW didn't have the skill set to be a started on the powerhouse that is the Dolphins, but when compared with the weak skill set of the other NE WR he rises to a starting role? Clearly Mia did not know how to use him. I doubt welker would be a great outside WR where primarily the #1 and #2 guys are, he's a slot WR who thrives off of the underneath stuff. They just didn't run enough plays out of a 3 WR set IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I doubt welker would be a great outside WR where primarily the #1 and #2 guys are, he's a slot WR who thrives off of the underneath stuff. They just didn't run enough plays out of a 3 WR set IMO. He had 67 catches last year which lead the team (I think). Hes the epitome of a slot receiver. When you are 5' 10" and weigh 185 pounds being a #1 or #2 isn't in the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 He had 67 catches last year which lead the team (I think). Hes the epitome of a slot receiver. When you are 5' 10" and weigh 185 pounds being a #1 or #2 isn't in the equation. I knew he had a pretty decent year last year but he was still very underused in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I knew he had a pretty decent year last year but he was still very underused in Miami. That is one of the many reasons why Miami is horrid. They trade Welker, sign Joey Porter (who is washed up), and lest we forget draft Ginn Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 That is one of the many reasons why Miami is horrid. They trade Welker, sign Joey Porter (who is washed up), and lest we forget draft Ginn Jr. To be fair I think they ahve gotten a bad rep for the Tedd Ginn pick. He's actually been pretty good this year considering just how bad the QB play has been. The other alternative was going to be Brady Quinn who could still be a superstar but as of now has literally done nothing to merit being called the better pick. The Joey Porter and Trent Green moves were horrible though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 To be fair I think they ahve gotten a bad rep for the Tedd Ginn pick. He's actually been pretty good this year considering just how bad the QB play has been. The other alternative was going to be Brady Quinn who could still be a superstar but as of now has literally done nothing to merit being called the better pick. The Joey Porter and Trent Green moves were horrible though. Ginn has been ok but I still don't understand why the Dolphins didn't draft Quinn. If anything Trent Green was a 1 or 2 year solution at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ginn has been ok but I still don't understand why the Dolphins didn't draft Quinn. If anything Trent Green was a 1 or 2 year solution at best. During the draft last April the big money was on the Dolfags grabbing Quinn. They may regret not doing it for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 During the draft last April the big money was on the Dolfags grabbing Quinn. They may regret not doing it for years to come. Thats OK with me and the rest of the AFCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ginn has been ok but I still don't understand why the Dolphins didn't draft Quinn. If anything Trent Green was a 1 or 2 year solution at best. Agreed but until Quinn has done something to prove that he can play at a high level in this league, it's tough to criticise the move. Quinn could wind up being a total bust for all we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Agreed but until Quinn has done something to prove that he can play at a high level in this league, it's tough to criticise the move. Quinn could wind up being a total bust for all we know. Until Quinn gets to play we wont know. Ginn is basically a kick returner and a crappy WR (23 receptions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Until Quinn gets to play we wont know. Ginn is basically a kick returner and a crappy WR (23 receptions). From what I've seen of Ginn I have to admit I've been impressed. You have to take into consideration just how God awful the QB situation has been and he only really got his chance when Chambers got traded. His route running is a lot better than I thought it would be and he doesn't drop too many passes. 23 catches in that offences isn't exactly crappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Until Quinn gets to play we wont know. Ginn is basically a kick returner and a crappy WR (23 receptions). Seems like a lot of teams didn't like Quinn so much. Maybe he was a little overhyped, don't you think? Ginn may be a crappy wr, but he'll always be fast. He'll probably have a fairly long career, even if he did go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Sorry to disappoint you troller but that's NOT the reason. No, I think JonE's statement that the Jets offense is as good and maybe better then the Colts two years bak is the king of that distinction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Agreed but until Quinn has done something to prove that he can play at a high level in this league, it's tough to criticise the move. Quinn could wind up being a total bust for all we know. You never, EVER, under any circumstances, select a KICK AND PUNT RETURNER OVER A QUARTERBACK WITH THE 9TH OVERALL SELECTION!!!! That move was just pure stupidity by the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 You never, EVER, under any circumstances, select a KICK AND PUNT RETURNER OVER A QUARTERBACK WITH THE 9TH OVERALL SELECTION!!!! That move was just pure stupidity by the Dolphins. The best QBs are found late in the 6th round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 The best QBs are found late in the 6th round. LOL GWGH is okay. unlike some other rival troll posters have done, Hoodie doesnt insult Jets fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 LOL GWGH is okay. unlike some other rival troll posters have done, Hoodie doesnt insult Jets fans. Haven't most of those trolls left the building? Or do you think I insult Jets fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Haven't most of those trolls left the building? Or do you think I insult Jets fans Eh, you and Alk do it rarely enough to let it slide for the most part. We must protect this house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 LOL GWGH is okay. unlike some other rival troll posters have done, Hoodie doesnt insult Jets fans. Humm, failure as troll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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