Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Cotchery is the Jets no 3 WR and he's having BY FAR the worst season of his career and Keller has been invisible since week 5 so your post is a big who gives a sh*t. This thread isn't about Keller, Gonzalez or Cotchery. It's about the overrated JAG wearing number 83. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Then what do you call the stats for the Jets WR's? Below average, failing? Carolina Steve Smith sucks too by that logic, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Carolina Steve Smith sucks too by that logic, right? Smith plays for the worst team in the NFL with the immortal Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore as his QB's. From what I've read here and heard all year the Jets have a lot of talent on offense. How do you explain that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 If Wes Welker has 20 catches, 15 of them are of the back-breaking, comes-out-of-nowhere on third and eight to extend a drive variety. The dude is just a unique talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 If Wes Welker has 20 catches, 15 of them are of the back-breaking, comes-out-of-nowhere on third and eight to extend a drive variety. The dude is just a unique talent. Some of your fellow Jets fans said he is JAG so that means it's true. Wes Welker = JAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Some of your fellow Jets fans said he is JAG so that means it's true. Wes Welker = JAG. I think the Moss argument, the Brady argument and even the Edelman argument all have some validity. It doesn't change the fact that Welker goes out there almost every week and spins somebody's cornerback around to give the Pats big first downs. He's not the best WR in the league, but he's a huge difference-maker and a winning ballplayer. I'd even go so far as to say that the Jets would be better off with Welker and Holmes than they are with Braylon and Holmes, only because Welker would make Sanchez's life so much easier by consistently breaking open in the middle of the field as opposed to, with Braylon, trying to force the ball down the sidelines every time. Edited December 15, 2010 by T0mShane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I think the Moss argument, the Brady argument and even the Edelman argument all have some validity. It doesn't change the fact that Welker goes out there almost every week and spins somebody's cornerback around to give the Pats big first downs. He's not the best WR in the league, but he's a huge difference-maker and a winning ballplayer. I'd even go so far as to say that the Jets would be better off with Welker and Holmes than they are with Braylon and Holmes, only because Welker would make Sanchez's life so much easier by consistently breaking open in the middle of the field as opposed to, with Braylon, trying to force the ball down the sidelines every time. Stop trying to be rational when it comes to Wes "JAG" Welker. The haters love to post his YPC and lack of TD's. As you said all Welker does is move the chains. When a JAG has 100+ receptions in 3 consecutive seasons I would think he is pretty decent. Not to mention the Pats short passing game is pretty much like a running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Stop trying to be rational when it comes to Wes "JAG" Welker. The haters love to post his YPC and lack of TD's. As you said all Welker does is move the chains. When a JAG has 100+ receptions in 3 consecutive seasons I would think he is pretty decent. Not to mention the Pats short passing game is pretty much like a running game. Word. He's not even a WR. He's like a Jay Novacek/Keith Byars/Dave Megget type hybrid. All he does is be open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Word. He's not even a WR. He's like a Jay Novacek/Keith Byars/Dave Megget type hybrid. All he does is be open. Exactly. BTW: Keith Byars was awesome. Loved that guy with the '96 Pats. Megget? I don't like serial rapists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Smith plays for the worst team in the NFL with the immortal Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore as his QB's. From what I've read here and heard all year the Jets have a lot of talent on offense. How do you explain that? Sanchez is a slight step above Clausen and Moore at this point. WR's cant put up numbers with crappy QB's. Welker in Miami didnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Sanchez is a slight step above Clausen and Moore at this point. WR's cant put up numbers with crappy QB's. Welker in Miami didnt. Welker had 67 catches on a team with terrible QB's in 2006. I'll be amazed if any Jet WR hits the 70 reception mark this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Exactly. BTW: Keith Byars was awesome. Loved that guy with the '96 Pats. Megget? I don't like serial rapists. BUT EVERYBODY GETS ONE AMIRTIE!?!?!! Edited December 16, 2010 by SenorGato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Welker had 67 catches on a team with terrible QB's in 2006. I'll be amazed if any Jet WR hits the 70 reception mark this season. If Holmes played all 16 he surely would. Cotchery missed two games as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 If Holmes played all 16 he surely would. Cotchery missed two games as well. And Welker is coming back from blowing out his knee in Week 17 last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Beware the Welker on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Welker had 67 catches on a team with terrible QB's in 2006. I'll be amazed if any Jet WR hits the 70 reception mark this season. So what? I'd rather have 4 50's than 1 70 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Edited January 17, 2011 by EY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 He's slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Feel that Wes? Thats our foot up your a$$ Edited January 17, 2011 by Greenranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Randy Moss is a turd of a human being. He is not a media darling, and he is a pain in the a$$ to have on your team. Yet if Belichick is such a great coach, how come he couldn't make that work for the balance of this season? All these stories about "gritty" Welker, Woodhead, Edleman, Hernandez and Gronkosksi are all well and good. But sometimes when it comes to talent you have to work with people you may not like or even dislike.And in fairness Edwards and Holmes might also be difficult but their talent in undeniable. But we had one coach that did his best to make it work, and another who arrogantly dumped a very talented player over....any idea why they got rid of him really? Ego? So a wideout had an ego? Suspect even Belichick knows tonight he made a serious error over nonsense. Might not have changed the outcome, but if the Pats had that guy who made that circus TD catch in September it would've been harder to beat them. Edited January 17, 2011 by Bugg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child please Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) At least he came prepared with that ridiculous bubble prevent concussion helmut, he knew his a$$ was going to get lit up. Smug punk. Edited January 17, 2011 by Child please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Put your FEET up Wes...you aren't playing next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 This JAG was utterly humiliated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Randy Moss is a turd of a human being. He is not a media darling, and he is a pain in the a$$ to have on your team. Yet if Belichick is such a great coach, how come he couldn't make that work for the balance of this season? All these stories about "gritty" Welker, Woodhead, Edleman, Hernandez and Gronkosksi are all well and good. But sometimes when it comes to talent you have to work with people you may not like or even dislike.And in fairness Edwards and Holmes might also be difficult but their talent in undeniable. But we had one coach that did his best to make it work, and another who arrogantly dumped a very talented player over....any idea why they got rid of him really? Ego? So a wideout had an ego? Suspect even Belichick knows tonight he made a serious error over nonsense. Might not have changed the outcome, but if the Pats had that guy who made that circus TD catch in September it would've been harder to beat them. I am calling BS. First, as diva like as some receivers can be at times, I do not recall Braylon or Santonio acting like Moss earlier this year. I do not recall any look at me press conferences. Nor do I recall him sitting like a petulant child on the sideline during an emotional early season ictory over a rival. You are talking apples and oranges. Second, if you are talking about talent, yes the Patriots could have used Moss' talent yesterday. And this is the first time you can say that since the trade. Plus, seeing how Moss really did not do anything anywhere else, it is debatable he would have made a difference yesterday. So sure, if the 2007 motivated Moss showed up, maybe yesterday would have been different. I doubt it. However, sure it could have made a difference if the 2007 Moss showed up, but we would have had the 2009 Moss. Last, the Patriots had locker room issues in 2009. Belichick sent 4 players home. Only, one of those guys is still with the team. While few sordid details escaped of the problems last year, Reiss and others have reported the locker room was much better this year. Belichick took the pictures down as a symbol that this is a team with no history. Going into yesterday's game, for every Brady with 18 games experience, there were quite a few rookies with none. I would not be surprised if the Jets as a team had more game experience on their roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wes Welker looked very JAGish yesterday. Its weird, I feel like I've heard people call him that before but I'm not sure where or who would be so bold? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Wes Welker looked very JAGish yesterday. Its weird, I feel like I've heard people call him that before but I'm not sure where or who would be so bold? Not only does he suck, he's a thin-skinned pussy who cries after losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I am calling BS. First, as diva like as some receivers can be at times, I do not recall Braylon or Santonio acting like Moss earlier this year. I do not recall any look at me press conferences. Nor do I recall him sitting like a petulant child on the sideline during an emotional early season ictory over a rival. You are talking apples and oranges. Second, if you are talking about talent, yes the Patriots could have used Moss' talent yesterday. And this is the first time you can say that since the trade. Plus, seeing how Moss really did not do anything anywhere else, it is debatable he would have made a difference yesterday. So sure, if the 2007 motivated Moss showed up, maybe yesterday would have been different. I doubt it. However, sure it could have made a difference if the 2007 Moss showed up, but we would have had the 2009 Moss. Last, the Patriots had locker room issues in 2009. Belichick sent 4 players home. Only, one of those guys is still with the team. While few sordid details escaped of the problems last year, Reiss and others have reported the locker room was much better this year. Belichick took the pictures down as a symbol that this is a team with no history. Going into yesterday's game, for every Brady with 18 games experience, there were quite a few rookies with none. I would not be surprised if the Jets as a team had more game experience on their roster. Moss would've made a difference. Enough to win, I don't know. But the idea you have to get rid of anyone who doesn't completely toe the line is simply nonsense.This "gritty, character beats sheer talent" is nonsense. Now if someone is disurptive to the point it outweighs that talent, yes, you have a point. A press conference or acting like a dick on the sidelines is not enoguh. Brady is 34, and he has only so many more shots at the prize. All those draft picks are wonderful, but none of them played yesterday. And there's no guarantee that when and if they mature Brady is still in Foxboro.Moss was a finished product, a deep threat, right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Wes Welker? Seriously? How those feet taste? Edited January 17, 2011 by The Brooklyn Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Moss would've made a difference. Enough to win, I don't know. But the idea you have to get rid of anyone who doesn't completely toe the line is simply nonsense.This "gritty, character beats sheer talent" is nonsense. Now if someone is disurptive to the point it outweighs that talent, yes, you have a point. A press conference or acting like a dick on the sidelines is not enoguh. Brady is 34, and he has only so many more shots at the prize. All those draft picks are wonderful, but none of them played yesterday. And there's no guarantee that when and if they mature Brady is still in Foxboro.Moss was a finished product, a deep threat, right now. Which Moss are you talking about? 2007 Moss? Or the one that was in Foxboro, Minnesota and Tennessee this year? For whatever reason, Moss did not produce this year. It is not like he went from 3 games and 9 catches to 13 games and 90 catches somewhere else. He had 28 catches in 16 games. The Patriots could have used a fully interested and committed Moss, but he did not play like that this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 BB benched Welker for the start of the game. Does this tarnish the relationship between him and his coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Which Moss are you talking about? 2007 Moss? Or the one that was in Foxboro, Minnesota and Tennessee this year? For whatever reason, Moss did not produce this year. It is not like he went from 3 games and 9 catches to 13 games and 90 catches somewhere else. He had 28 catches in 16 games. The Patriots could have used a fully interested and committed Moss, but he did not play like that this year. I think we are talking the one who burned the best CB in the business for a long TD in week 2 of this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I think we are talking the one who burned the best CB in the business for a long TD in week 2 of this year. The one that pulled up hurt on the play and did not play for a few weeks? Again, you pick one play out of about the last 5 games between those two players where Moss actually got free. The rest of the time it was Revis Island and Randy did not do sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Er ah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Er ah Impressive loss by Welker and the Pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Awfully quiet in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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