Post by the leader of the F--K the 3-4 fan club, here with a Revis post

[lancemehl]

2 things:

1. Do you know who bailed us out of a 70 point spanking, Darrell Revis, did you see all that time Brady had but his WR's were covered. Moss didn't get one one the rook all game with 200 yrds or whatever.

nor welker.

Revis is for real. I was wrong, probably about Miller, I can admit that and Barrett could have been trade bait as I've said because he is not an NFL caliber CB, remember Vance Joseph,played against the Radiders, Tim Brown scored like 14 TD's on him, that's Barrett and we could've dangled him as a starter in front of a team desperate but no, he's too important, FOR WHAT!!!! HE SUX!

What are we going to bring to the meeting now, that clip of him 10 tards behind Moss?

We could've picked a game where maybe he DID something and went after them. That's how Thomas Jones, I mean Barlow, I mean Jones got pawned off on us, he lit up Mangini and his pal sutton's for a c-note, just like McGahee, just like ronnie brown and every oth RB in the effin league.

You know what dawned on me, Thomas Jones IS Barlow. Both took advantage of poor teams, that's where they got their 100's, they both had an NFL caliper guy spelling hin, both had a bad QB and a line that could block and then the poor, slow, oxen would up here. Curtis did it because he first ballot, Neon is fast enough to get to the out side or the hole. The Oxen, like shinig KB and Jones, no chance, poor guys.

2. Go back and get my posts. Randy Moss, I think 70% of us said get that beast,so I can't lay claim. It was the "character" guys who didn't want this WR freak for a 4th round pick WE COULD HAVE HAD HIM!

So let that name ring in you "character loving" ears for an eternity."Moss for 6"

But Wes Welker, LOL LOL The south Florida people know.

This so-called penguin Genius, who is the same age as me and I could run a IHOP, much less an NFL team with millionaires who have more talent in their pinky that I have in my whole family tree,

COULD HAVE HAD Randy Moss, one of the best EVER when he plays hooked up with his old teammate who together made Marshall Magic(ask your closest Herd fan please for confirmation)

We could have had one of the most belove QB/WR tandem in College sports ever reunited with both still well in their prime and a WAYNE CHREBET reincarnate, except FASTER!!!

Both for nothing!!!!!, But the Genius doesn't stop there, there are no repports he even cared and he let who get them???

Dolphins. No,but close,

THE F--KING PATRIOTS!!

OH, Lord, say this isn't happening, please say that Randy Moss and Wes Welker landed on the Patriots for nothing and our genius of a headcoach pulled an emperor Nero on the the whole situation.

Please no!

[Sperm Edwards]

2 things:

1. Do you know who bailed us out of a 70 point spanking, Darrell Revis, did you see all that time Brady had but his WR's were covered. Moss didn't get one one the rook all game with 200 yrds or whatever.

nor welker.

Revis is for real. I was wrong, probably about Miller, I can admit that and Barrett could have been trade bait as I've said because he is not an NFL caliber CB, remember Vance Joseph,played against the Radiders, Tim Brown scored like 14 TD's on him, that's Barrett and we could've dangled him as a starter in front of a team desperate but no, he's too important, FOR WHAT!!!! HE SUX!

What are we going to bring to the meeting now, that clip of him 10 tards behind Moss?

We could've picked a game where maybe he DID something and went after them. That's how Thomas Jones, I mean Barlow, I mean Jones got pawned off on us, he lit up Mangini and his pal sutton's for a c-note, just like McGahee, just like ronnie brown and every oth RB in the effin league.

You know what dawned on me, Thomas Jones IS Barlow. Both took advantage of poor teams, that's where they got their 100's, they both had an NFL caliper guy spelling hin, both had a bad QB and a line that could block and then the poor, slow, oxen would up here. Curtis did it because he first ballot, Neon is fast enough to get to the out side or the hole. The Oxen, like shinig KB and Jones, no chance, poor guys.

2. Go back and get my posts. Randy Moss, I think 70% of us said get that beast,so I can't lay claim. It was the "character" guys who didn't want this WR freak for a 4th round pick WE COULD HAVE HAD HIM!

So let that name ring in you "character loving" ears for an eternity."Moss for 6"

But Wes Welker, LOL LOL The south Florida people know.

This so-called penguin Genius, who is the same age as me and I could run a IHOP, much less an NFL team with millionaires who have more talent in their pinky that I have in my whole family tree,

COULD HAVE HAD Randy Moss, one of the best EVER when he plays hooked up with his old teammate who together made Marshall Magic(ask your closest Herd fan please for confirmation)

We could have had one of the most belove QB/WR tandem in College sports ever reunited with both still well in their prime and a WAYNE CHREBET reincarnate, except FASTER!!!

Both for nothing!!!!!, But the Genius doesn't stop there, there are no repports he even cared and he let who get them???

Dolphins. No,but close,

THE F--KING PATRIOTS!!

OH, Lord, say this isn't happening, please say that Randy Moss and Wes Welker landed on the Patriots for nothing and our genius of a headcoach pulled an emperor Nero on the the whole situation.

Please no!

1. Wes Welker didn't cost "nothing by any stretch. They traded a 2nd & a 7th rounder & also gave him a sizable contract. If this was done by the Jets - or really, anyone other than the Patriots - it would have been laughed at.

2. Unless Pennington had both arm & instinct transplants, Randy Moss would have had little to no impact on our offense. It would just be another receiver running 3-6-yard curl routes which would convince everyone that Moss' time has come & gone & that acquiring him was a waste.

3. Nobody else wants David Barrett. Saying Barrett could have been trade bait is not the same as suggesting that anyone wants him with that bloated contract.

4. Acquiring any RB without improving the OL is a waste. Jones is better than Barlow in both talent & attitude. But we traded the equivalent of a early-mid third-rounder for him & then gave him a decently-sized contract. He's a good RB but he isn't a special RB. Anyone who thought adding him was going to be like waving a magic wand on our running-game issues was living in denial. It's always the OL unless you're adding a singular talent like Tomlinson or LJ. He'll basically be a less durable Curtis. He'll have a some very good games against lousy teams & good defenses will shut him down like a backup.

[DMaynard]

1. You are correct. Everything else considered, Revis was magnificient. Moss and Welker beat the crap out of everyone else in the secondary. Revis is for real and we are very fortunate to have drafted AND signed him.

2. Let's not get carried away with Moss. He is NOT the Randy Moss of a few years ago. But he is still 6'4" and fast enough to eventually get open WHEN A TOM BRADY HAS ALL DAY TO THROW. The Jets have Coles and Cotchery. I can think of a lot of other moves the Jets should have made vs going after Moss (who, by the way, made it very clear he wanted the Patriots). We have a lot of problems that have to be addressed. WR is not one of them.

[lancemehl]

1. Wes Welker didn't cost "nothing by any stretch. They traded a 2nd & a 7th rounder & also gave him a sizable contract. If this was done by the Jets - or really, anyone other than the Patriots - it would have been laughed at.

2. Unless Pennington had both arm & instinct transplants, Randy Moss would have had little to no impact on our offense. It would just be another receiver running 3-6-yard curl routes which would convince everyone that Moss' time has come & gone & that acquiring him was a waste.

3. Nobody else wants David Barrett. Saying Barrett could have been trade bait is not the same as suggesting that anyone wants him with that bloated contract.

4. Acquiring any RB without improving the OL is a waste. Jones is better than Barlow in both talent & attitude. But we traded the equivalent of a early-mid third-rounder for him & then gave him a decently-sized contract. He's a good RB but he isn't a special RB. Anyone who thought adding him was going to be like waving a magic wand on our running-game issues was living in denial. It's always the OL unless you're adding a singular talent like Tomlinson or LJ. He'll basically be a less durable Curtis. He'll have a some very good games against lousy teams & good defenses will shut him down like a backup.

Hey Sperm,

Thank You for at least replying. lol

Everytime I mentioned trading Barrett in earlier post, it was always with "(packaged of course)" attached, like a 4th.

Please don't tell me that Randy Moss is no threat with Chad throwing him the ball. There's a reason people heard of the two of them coming out of Marshall and they're the reason Leftwich got picked.

BUT,IF THAT WAS TRUE

then Wes Welker is PERFECT for Chad. He goes 6 yards over the middle. just a quick curl, move the chains guy. Chad's 2nd All Time in completions so that would've been a nice fit.

Actually they both would have, and it's been documented, look at Chad/Moss at Marshall and look at Chad/Chrebet at NYJets.

Sperm, thanks again for at least talking to me. lol I'll end by saying, I think we can both agree that our problems lies on the other side of the ball.

[SoFlaJets]

all I know is Justin Miller will NEVER be an NFL-caliber CB

[gang_green03]

Can people please try to be a little rational.

What would Moss have done with the Jets? How would his vertical game fit with our short passing attack? How does he compliment Chad's strengths at all?? Combine that with his poor character and he would've been doggin it halfway through the season.

Thomas Jones is a good RB, nothing more nothing less. He's not great but he's not poor either. Give him better run-blocking and he'll produce.

Like Sperm said the only reason everyone let the Welker deal slide was because it was the Patriots. They still gave up way to much considering his value when they traded for him. Are you trying to tell me that Wes Welker is worth more than Randy Moss, even with all the baggage?

I do agree with you that Revis will be a good one for us.

[Sperm Edwards]

Hey Sperm,

Thank You for at least replying. lol

Everytime I mentioned trading Barrett in earlier post, it was always with "(packaged of course)" attached, like a 4th.

Please don't tell me that Randy Moss is no threat with Chad throwing him the ball. There's a reason people heard of the two of them coming out of Marshall and they're the reason Leftwich got picked.

BUT,IF THAT WAS TRUE

then Wes Welker is PERFECT for Chad. He goes 6 yards over the middle. just a quick curl, move the chains guy. Chad's 2nd All Time in completions so that would've been a nice fit.

Actually they both would have, and it's been documented, look at Chad/Moss at Marshall and look at Chad/Chrebet at NYJets.

Sperm, thanks again for at least talking to me. lol I'll end by saying, I think we can both agree that our problems lies on the other side of the ball.

When I reply to these things I'm not picking a fight, as many interpret it.

Welker looks like a good addition to the Patriots. But the Patriots were a team with VERY few holes. I mean they needed a LB (check - A.Thomas) and needed to improve their WR's (tried with a high draft pick in '06 but with so few other needs & plenty of cap space, they picked up a bunch of FA WR's).

The point is, what makes sense for the Pats (2nd & 7th & sizable contract for Welker) doesn't necessarily make sense for the Jets. If we'd burned that on a slot receiver, when we already have Coles/Cotchery/JMac - and badly needed help on the Oline, Dline, ILB, and CB - it would have been a foolish move (to pick the nicest word possible).

Moss is more talented than any of our WR's. Ok. But we don't have Brady or anything resembling NE's o-line to make him nearly as useful as NE did yesterday. But WR is one of the positions we actually do not & did not NEED an upgrade. Burning two draft picks on a slot receiver would have been a poor decision.

Agree that Revis looked very good, particularly for his first NFL game & considering the opponent.

Our OLine sucks & our DLine sucks. Until that's taken care of, all this other chatter - while entertaining - is academic. So whether people are comparing Chad to Clemens or Chad to Montana...what's the difference? Montana isn't here & until the lines are fixed or do a 180 in ability and/or performance, neither Chad nor Clemens are leading us anywhere special.

[#27TheDominator]

1. Revis DID get beat by Moss. At least one catch was squarely over #24. Revis had good coverage even on that play and did an excellent job overall, but let's not act like he played shutout ball while everybody else was getting spanked.

2. I'll go a little further than Sperm. Not only was it useless to upgrade RB without improving the OL, but it was criminal to upgrade RB and let the OL actually get worse. I'm also not a big Curtis fan, but Jones has a long way to go to be a less durable Curtis.

3. I don't share the opinion that Chad couldn't hook up with Moss, maybe not for 200 ypg, but an improvement. However, his character issues might be a problem here, they won't be in NE. NE has a clear cut HOF on the team to tell him to shut up and play. Also, with their other weapons and history of winning he has little reason to quit or mouth off. Can anybody imagine what kind of bull**** he'd have pulled if he were on the Jets side of that rout yesterday?

4. IMO, the number one problem is the run D. The Jets D is not physically talented enough to stop multiple weapons. They are smart and can scheme to stop or slow down one dimensional teams, but when forced to load the line to stop the run, any team with a decent to good passing game will exploit the hell out of them.