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No matter how much I would like for what you have said in this thread regarding the Pats wins being tainted to be true the truth is that this will be largely forgotten in a month or two and now one will automatically think about the Pats Super Bowl wins are tainted. No one will remember.

This is an obsession with people like us who post on boards and root for team obsessively, but we're in the minority. Its not even a particularly big issue on other teams football boards.

minority? It has been covered not only by ESPN, but by every major news network in this country. It has not been treated as a second rate story. It's been big news. And trust me... networks don't spend time on news items unless they know there's interest or else their ratings go down. This IS a big deal to more then just us obsessed fans.

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minority? It has been covered not only by ESPN, but by every major news network in this country. It has not been treated as a second rate story. It's been big news. And trust me... networks don't spend time on news items unless they know there's interest or else their ratings go down. This IS a big deal to more then just us obsessed fans.

haha..its Gibbon,,he sees the world, and LBs through a different set of glasses ;)

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SJ:

No matter how much I would like for what you have said in this thread regarding the Pats wins being tainted to be true the truth is that this will be largely forgotten in a month or two and now one will automatically think about the Pats Super Bowl wins are tainted. No one will remember.

This is an obsession with people like us who post on boards and root for team obsessively, but we're in the minority. Its not even a particularly big issue on other teams football boards.

I beg to differ, I live in Pittsburgh, my family lives in Buffalo, neither of the places has STOPPED talking about it since monday. That includes the noon and 5 oclock news, talk radio, newspapers, chit chat around the office. no one will stop talking about it actually. and they ALL have said the pats rings are tainted.

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Thats actually the exact truth Whaler, in order to lose something you need first earn it and say its yours. Since NE never earned the accolades, they never had them to lose. Great point!!

If Jets' fans bitch and complain enough and no one listens, does anyone care?

NYJJJ

Buffalo? Pittsbrgh? Go figure. Who has been the biggest complainers? Teams we repeatedly beat or teams we beat in the playoffs. I find it funny Hines Ward uses 2001 as a reference. Let's see, the first TD was a punt return. The third one was a blocked field goal. IN that game and then 2004 championship game, we were decidedly out gained and gave up nearly 400 yards of offense in 2004.

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If Jets' fans bitch and complain enough and no one listens, does anyone care?

NYJJJ

Buffalo? Pittsbrgh? Go figure. Who has been the biggest complainers? Teams we repeatedly beat or teams we beat in the playoffs. I find it funny Hines Ward uses 2001 as a reference. Let's see, the first TD was a punt return. The third one was a blocked field goal. IN that game and then 2004 championship game, we were decidedly out gained and gave up nearly 400 yards of offense in 2004.

dude, you left out the *

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If Jets' fans bitch and complain enough and no one listens, does anyone care?

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Why the hell do you even post on this site? Let me guess... Just a Pats fan with No life who loves taking shots at Jet fans since we have not won a SB since 69... Well guess what? You all cheated to win yours... LMAO... CHEATERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Your a

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If Jets' fans bitch and complain enough and no one listens, does anyone care?

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Why the hell do you even post on this site? Let me guess... Just a Pats fan with No life who loves taking shots at Jet fans since we have not won a SB since 69... Well guess what? You all cheated to win yours... LMAO... CHEATERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Your a skum fan just like your coach

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If Jets' fans bitch and complain enough and no one listens, does anyone care?

You seem to take the bait everytime.

Hey maybe you can help me out. I am working on an article for the front page. I figured it would be good to get a Patriots fans perspective. Here is what I have, let me know if you think it is too wordy.

The Patriots Cheated

By Max

Belichick cheated. This time he was caught and the world saw him for the fraud that he is.

The Pats cheated, lol.

The End.

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You seem to take the bait everytime.

Hey maybe you can help me out. I am working on an article for the front page. I figured it would be good to get a Patriots fans perspective. Here is what I have, let me know if you think it is too wordy.

The Patriots Cheated

By Max

Belichick cheated. This time he was caught and the world saw him for the fraud that he is.

The Pats cheated, lol.

The End.

that's Pulitzer Prize winning stuff there Max

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You seem to take the bait everytime.

Hey maybe you can help me out. I am working on an article for the front page. I figured it would be good to get a Patriots fans perspective. Here is what I have, let me know if you think it is too wordy.

The Patriots Cheated

By Max

Belichick cheated. This time he was caught and the world saw him for the fraud that he is.

The Pats cheated, lol.

The End.

POTWN... Because Max is our JetNation leader... Short and simple, but he got to the point... Great job Mx...BB did cheat... This time he was busted, Not only is he a skum as a person, but in the eyes of many all the SB rings from the pats are a fraud and yep... THe pats cheated...

I love it

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Why the hell do you even post on this site? Let me guess... Just a Pats fan with No life who loves taking shots at Jet fans since we have not won a SB since 69... Well guess what? You all cheated to win yours... LMAO... CHEATERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Your a skum fan just like your coach

I liked you better with the new signature.

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POTWN... Because Max is our JetNation leader... Short and simple, but he got to the point... Great job Mx...BB did cheat... This time he was busted, Not only is he a skum as a person, but in the eyes of many all the SB rings from the pats are a fraud and yep... THe pats cheated...

I love it

Did you just call Max short and simple?

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I liked you better with the new signature.

Yea... And I also respected the Patriots and the bet a whole lot more before they cheated... You know, sometimes in life... Things change. If the Pats never would have cheated, we could have won that game... BB knew every blitz that was coming, BB knew when we were in Zone or Man, and we really never know who would have won... The bet was a fraud.

The Pats went from an orgination who wins the "Right way" (Cheating), High character players (R.Harrison) and a Great HC (I guess he is now simply a GREAT CHEATER)... You know... THings change bro... Things change.

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I agree with Max in that Kraft and *BB will part ways after this season.

Kraft's rep has taken a smaller hit than the POS but a hit just the same. Keeping *BB is the same as saying cheating is ok. The *Pats are tarnished for all time and Kraft's smartest move would be to part ways with *BB as his way of showing he doesn't condone the actions of the past 12 to 18 months.

Mistress money sent in *NE stationary--pushing photographers--Roids---Multiple cheating accusations---embarrassing an entire organization and it's fanbase.....The *HC will be dismissed if Kraft has any ethics.

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I agree with Max in that Kraft and *BB will part ways after this season.

Kraft's rep has taken a smaller hit than the POS but a hit just the same. Keeping *BB is the same as saying cheating is ok. The *Pats are tarnished for all time and Kraft's smartest move would be to part ways with *BB as his way of showing he doesn't condone the actions of the past 12 to 18 months.

Mistress money sent in *NE stationary--pushing photographers--Roids---Multiple cheating accusations---embarrassing an entire organization and it's fanbase.....The *HC will be dismissed if Kraft has any ethics.

To me, Kraft's silence speaks volumes. I need a follow up on his "out to get us" statement from the other day.

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yes you did. the respect of all fans and other teams in the NFL..

you are the Barry Bond's of the NFL..

have fun wearing that shirt anywhere outside Boston,,you will see what is really thought of the NE Asterisk's

I could care less of what other fans think of my team. And I wear my colors everywhere, proudly.

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yes you did. the respect of all fans and other teams in the NFL..

you are the Barry Bond's of the NFL..

have fun wearing that shirt anywhere outside Boston,,you will see what is really thought of the NE Asterisk's

Alright, I'm gonna call bS on that one right there.

I can take all the joking and whatnot, but being compared to the KKK is not cool at all. Actually, that's really f*cked up

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Alright, I'm gonna call bS on that one right there.

I can take all the joking and whatnot, but being compared to the KKK is not cool at all. Actually, that's really f*cked up

Sometimes when people dont understand... an extreme reference is needed for its "shock value"

Are you saying you would look twice or laugh at someone wearing a Barry Bonds jersey, or Jose Conseco... or any cheater for that matter?

My point was,.... in your head... you think its OK and your proud of what you beleive in... but most people with common sense dont agree..

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Sometimes when people dont understand... an extreme reference is needed for its "shock value"

Are you saying you would look twice or laugh at someone wearing a Barry Bonds jersey, or Jose Conseco... or any cheater for that matter?

My point was,.... in your head... you think its OK and your proud of what you beleive in... but most people with common sense dont agree..

No, I actually can't remember the last time I saw someone in a Bonds jersey.

And I'm sorry for not jumping off the bandwagon over this. I've been a Pats fan since I was a little kid, and I'll be a Pats fan until I die. I'm not going to apologize for it, just like you're not going to apologize for being a Jets fan, or the same reason that someone isn't going to apologize for being a SF Giants fan.

No need for the comparison you made, really has no relavence on the situation.

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No, I actually can't remember the last time I saw someone in a Bonds jersey.

And I'm sorry for not jumping off the bandwagon over this. I've been a Pats fan since I was a little kid, and I'll be a Pats fan until I die. I'm not going to apologize for it, just like you're not going to apologize for being a Jets fan, or the same reason that someone isn't going to apologize for being a SF Giants fan.

No need for the comparison you made, really has no relavence on the situation.

I would never suggest you not be a Pats fan... just that you dont walk around in Pats gear outside of Pats Nation... that was the issue at hand...

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