Ecurb, there will be a time very soon

[lancemehl]

In 2-3 weeks tops where your comments will simply be common knowledge. He's 2002 Pennington well seasoned, well respected by every single player on that team. Well respected by every single coach on that team and pretty soon you coming on saying Chad's a good QB is going to be like saying the sky is blue.

He's Chad F---ing Pennington!

He Completes 7 out of every 10 passes he throws.

He has two Awesome receivers(one guy is telepathically linked to him,

the other has done things I've never seen done before on a football field like hover 3 inches from the ground and get back up without a knee touching), plus a TE who's starting to look a little bit like a weapon. He has a guy who could take a screen pass to the house at any second.

3 more games and anyone saying that Chad Pennington is not a top QB in the NFL will either be obviously sarcastic and trying to break ballls or doesn't really watch sports.

Is there anyone here that will tell me that Chad sucked in 2002? I didn't think so. Well, guess what? He'll be better this year!

[serphnx]

This thread is kind of gay.

[BP]

This thread is kind of gay.

Yes

[ECURB]

GO CHAD!

[124]

After 2 less than spectacular games you're going to try to say that Chad will be a better year in 2007 than he did in 2002? Get real.

[ECURB]

After 2 less than spectacular games you're going to try to say that Chad will be a better year in 2007 than he did in 2002? Get real.

He didnt even start the first few games of 02', so yes it is very possible... he already is off to a 4TD 0INT start

[gangreenman]

He didnt even start the first few games of 02', so yes it is very possible... he already is off to a 4TD 0INT start

5 if you include the running TD.

[124]

He didnt even start the first few games of 02', so yes it is very possible... he already is off to a 4TD 0INT start

Woohoo Chad! Vinny started the first 5 games of 2001 without throwing a pick, beat that.

[penningtonfan82]

Chad ****in' Pennington!

[K2C]

Yeah Chad!

Hail the leader.

No Smizzy..not swallow the leader.

[Thai Jet]

Yeah Chad!

Hail the leader.

No Smizzy..not swallow the leader.

Too funny P2C !!!

[Kentucky Jet]

In 2-3 weeks tops where your comments will simply be common knowledge. He's 2002 Pennington well seasoned, well respected by every single player on that team. Well respected by every single coach on that team and pretty soon you coming on saying Chad's a good QB is going to be like saying the sky is blue.

He's Chad F---ing Pennington!

He Completes 7 out of every 10 passes he throws.

He has two Awesome receivers(one guy is telepathically linked to him,

the other has done things I've never seen done before on a football field like hover 3 inches from the ground and get back up without a knee touching), plus a TE who's starting to look a little bit like a weapon. He has a guy who could take a screen pass to the house at any second.

3 more games and anyone saying that Chad Pennington is not a top QB in the NFL will either be obviously sarcastic and trying to break ballls or doesn't really watch sports.

Is there anyone here that will tell me that Chad sucked in 2002? I didn't think so. Well, guess what? He'll be better this year!

Tell me how many SB rings he has. That is the only statistic that means anything. How many top defenses has he creamed since playoff game in 2002? What is his won-loss record at home vs the Patriots? Pittsburgh? Denver? Baltimore? If he is above 500 we would be considered a SB contending team!

[faba]

I support whoever the QB of the Jets is- that being said the time is now for Chad to prove he can take this team deep into the playoffs against top teams in the league. No excuses.

[KSJets]

No excuses.

Can we at least wait until the defense shows up to a game before saying this?

[flgreen]

Tell me how many SB rings he has. That is the only statistic that means anything. How many top defenses has he creamed since playoff game in 2002? What is his won-loss record at home vs the Patriots? Pittsburgh? Denver? Baltimore? If he is above 500 we would be considered a SB contending team!

Tell me how many SB's any Jets QB has won, except Namath.

All I know is the Jets are 8-20 since 2002 without Pennington. If Clemens is ready, great.

I don't think he is. More important, Mangini doesn't either.

[NIGHT STALKER]

I support whoever the QB of the Jets is- that being said the time is now for Chad to prove he can take this team deep into the playoffs against top teams in the league. No excuses.

Yeah, there is. We have no defense. No QB, HOF or otherwise could take this team playing defense the way it is into the playoffs. I wouldn't want to waste my time.

[lancemehl]

5 if you include the running TD.

Hey gangreen, please shoot me that youtube code. That's one of the best clips I've ever seen in my life. It's not quite the Starks dunk but it's close.

[NJ]

I support whoever the QB of the Jets is- that being said the time is now for Chad to prove he can take this team deep into the playoffs against top teams in the league. No excuses.

Yes it is Faba and I also support whomever is taking snaps for the Jets. If Chad can take us deep into the play-offs and get us a ring, I dont think you'd find any so called "Chad haters" in the Jet's fanbase. Forgive me if a valliant drive against the Fraudriots and a pasting of the mighty Dolphags don't have me looking for Super Bowl tickets yet. Or even play-off tickets. But I'm just a pessimist.

[lancemehl]

This thread is kind of gay.

Too-shay. I mean, you got me good with that one. I'm speechless. I'm no match for your verbal Kung-Fu and I gracefully bow out of any quarrel with you.

BTW

I'm not Gay myself, but I believe certain groups may have a problem with that statement, just sayin.

[lancemehl]

After 2 less than spectacular games you're going to try to say that Chad will be a better year in 2007 than he did in 2002? Get real.

See, with all due respect, 124, that's where we differ. I wouldn't call 120 QB rating, over 70% comp, 4 TD's 1 rushing TD=5TD and 0 INT's "less than spectatular".

[LionelRichie]

let's see chad beat a good defense before putting him in canton.

those floaters may have worked against the putrid dolphins but lets see what happens against a real team.

[lancemehl]

Yeah, there is. We have no defense. No QB, HOF or otherwise could take this team playing defense the way it is into the playoffs. I wouldn't want to waste my time.

exactly.No excuses? How about the defense letting teams walk all over it, is that an excuse?

[lancemehl]

Tell me how many SB rings he has. That is the only statistic that means anything. How many top defenses has he creamed since playoff game in 2002? What is his won-loss record at home vs the Patriots? Pittsburgh? Denver? Baltimore? If he is above 500 we would be considered a SB contending team!

with that defense, Kentucky, my old friend, Johnny Unitas could be on this team and we wouldn't be considered a Playoff team.Period.

Our defense is disgusting.

[PFSIKH]

Tell me how many SB rings he has. That is the only statistic that means anything. How many top defenses has he creamed since playoff game in 2002? What is his won-loss record at home vs the Patriots? Pittsburgh? Denver? Baltimore? If he is above 500 we would be considered a SB contending team!

Do not waste your time.

The Chad apologists say they want a title, but the proof is not there.

Why stay mediocre in a great conference? If the Jets were in the NFC, that would be one thing, but they are no better then 5th in a deep conference with several great teams. They are clearly apart from those great teams. l

[NIGHT STALKER]

Do not waste your time.

The Chad apologists say they want a title, but the proof is not there.

Why stay mediocre in a great conference? If the Jets were in the NFC, that would be one thing, but they are no better then 5th in a deep conference with several great teams. They are clearly apart from those great teams. l

Come on man, I'm not a Chad cheerleader by no means, but do you seriously think your boy Brady could take this Jets team to the SB?

Lesser QB's have won SB's in the past...just depends on what kind of team is built around them...offense and defense.

[SoFlaJets]

Come on man, I'm not a Chad cheerleader by no means, but do you seriously think your boy Brady could take this Jets team to the SB?

Lesser QB's have won SB's in the past...just depends on what kind of team is built around them...offense and defense.

exactly NS-cry as they might, Chad-haters club-he is NOT the problem

[124]

See, with all due respect, 124, that's where we differ. I wouldn't call 120 QB rating, over 70% comp, 4 TD's 1 rushing TD=5TD and 0 INT's "less than spectatular".

If I hear this completion percentage garbage from people who want to marry Chad Pennington one more time I'm going to go Michael Myers on their ass. Are you serious? You or me would have a 70% completion percentage with a dink & dunk offense. What do you think Peyton Manning would have? Probably 99.99% percent.

Its also been two games. Lets give it time here. Two games do no make a season, especially when one of those comes up against a secondary featuring NFL powerhouses Will Allen and Travis Daniels.

[lancemehl]

If I hear this completion percentage garbage from people who want to marry Chad Pennington one more time I'm going to go Michael Myers on their ass. Are you serious? You or me would have a 70% completion percentage with a dink & dunk offense. What do you think Peyton Manning would have? Probably 99.99% percent.

Its also been two games. Lets give it time here. Two games do no make a season, especially when one of those comes up against a secondary featuring NFL powerhouses Will Allen and Travis Daniels.

I like Dinks when they're perfect spirals in a place where only your guy can get it in the corner of the endzone.I think they are things of beauty, that dunk for a TD was nice too.

[124]

I am so tired of talking about these passes that were passes that apparently only the great Chad Pennington can make.

The LC touchdown was nothing spectacular.

The Baker touchdown was more of a great catch and footwork by Baker than it was a pass from Chad, period.

His best pass was the one to Cotchery that Cotchery had to ONE HAND to catch and when you one hand a catch, thats always more impressive than the throw.

[Sperm Edwards]

Here's my take on the "beating top teams" thing.

If he's losing games like Palmer lost the Cleveland game, then you can bust out the "QB doesn't play defense" excuse & you'd be right. 6 touchdowns should suffice I think, regardless of the opponent.

But when the defense is crap & we're still scoring under or around 20 points, that isn't ALL on the defense. These are the times that a QB must step up & put up big points. It can't just be against the likes of the Dolphins & Lions.

The NE game I'd hardly place on Chad's head. Expecting 40 points to match NE's 38 is not a reasonable demand from any QB, Peyton Manning included. But I would expect more than 14 points, QB rating be damned.

If we start losing games 24-14 or 27-21 then while the defense is probably stinking the joint up, I don't consider that an insurmountable score that he should get a pass on. Not at this stage of his career. And without the "Tom Brady couldn't have done any better" foolishness. Because barring an off-day by Brady, he would do better in virtually every situation against every opponent. Being a Jets fan is one thing, but get real.

I like watching my Jets win games, so for as long as he's in there I will always cheer him on. Even through ragging on him during a game, it's not a hate directed at CP personally; it's that I want to see the offense score.

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

[124]

Here's my take on the "beating top teams" thing.

If he's losing games like Palmer lost the Cleveland game, then you can bust out the "QB doesn't play defense" excuse & you'd be right. 6 touchdowns should suffice I think, regardless of the opponent.

But when the defense is crap & we're still scoring under or around 20 points, that isn't ALL on the defense. These are the times that a QB must step up & put up big points. It can't just be against the likes of the Dolphins & Lions.

The NE game I'd hardly place on Chad's head. Expecting 40 points to match NE's 38 is not a reasonable demand from any QB, Peyton Manning included. But I would expect more than 14 points, QB rating be damned.

If we start losing games 24-14 or 27-21 then while the defense is probably stinking the joint up, I don't consider that an insurmountable score that he should get a pass on. Not at this stage of his career. And without the "Tom Brady couldn't have done any better" foolishness. Because barring an off-day by Brady, he would do better in virtually every situation against every opponent. Being a Jets fan is one thing, but get real.

I like watching my Jets win games, so for as long as he's in there I will always cheer him on. Even through ragging on him during a game, it's not a hate directed at CP personally; it's that I want to see the offense score.

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

POTW Nomination.

Solid post Sperm. I hate the "Brady couldn't do it" excuse, when if you're a knowledgeable fan you would know Brady could do it with a broken leg better than Chad.

[NJ]

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

Well said per usual Sperm. The other "intangible" factor with the D that can be attributable to Pennington is time of possesion. The Jets defense was only on the field 3 minutes more than Miami's was on Sunday, but when we play against a good defense and we have a lot of 3, 5, 7 and out - anybodys D gets worn down. If your D is on the field because you've just scored, it becomes less of an issue.

[faba]

Here's my take on the "beating top teams" thing.

If he's losing games like Palmer lost the Cleveland game, then you can bust out the "QB doesn't play defense" excuse & you'd be right. 6 touchdowns should suffice I think, regardless of the opponent.

But when the defense is crap & we're still scoring under or around 20 points, that isn't ALL on the defense. These are the times that a QB must step up & put up big points. It can't just be against the likes of the Dolphins & Lions.

The NE game I'd hardly place on Chad's head. Expecting 40 points to match NE's 38 is not a reasonable demand from any QB, Peyton Manning included. But I would expect more than 14 points, QB rating be damned.

If we start losing games 24-14 or 27-21 then while the defense is probably stinking the joint up, I don't consider that an insurmountable score that he should get a pass on. Not at this stage of his career. And without the "Tom Brady couldn't have done any better" foolishness. Because barring an off-day by Brady, he would do better in virtually every situation against every opponent. Being a Jets fan is one thing, but get real.

I like watching my Jets win games, so for as long as he's in there I will always cheer him on. Even through ragging on him during a game, it's not a hate directed at CP personally; it's that I want to see the offense score.

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

Agreed Sperm with what you said here.

[K2C]

Here's my take on the "beating top teams" thing.

If he's losing games like Palmer lost the Cleveland game, then you can bust out the "QB doesn't play defense" excuse & you'd be right. 6 touchdowns should suffice I think, regardless of the opponent.

But when the defense is crap & we're still scoring under or around 20 points, that isn't ALL on the defense. These are the times that a QB must step up & put up big points. It can't just be against the likes of the Dolphins & Lions.

The NE game I'd hardly place on Chad's head. Expecting 40 points to match NE's 38 is not a reasonable demand from any QB, Peyton Manning included. But I would expect more than 14 points, QB rating be damned.

If we start losing games 24-14 or 27-21 then while the defense is probably stinking the joint up, I don't consider that an insurmountable score that he should get a pass on. Not at this stage of his career. And without the "Tom Brady couldn't have done any better" foolishness. Because barring an off-day by Brady, he would do better in virtually every situation against every opponent. Being a Jets fan is one thing, but get real.

I like watching my Jets win games, so for as long as he's in there I will always cheer him on. Even through ragging on him during a game, it's not a hate directed at CP personally; it's that I want to see the offense score.

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

Sperm.

I agree with everything you said, except for this.

How do you expect Chad, or any other QB for that matter to put up points without both a running game, and a lack of defense? How do you expect to win a game when you give up a 109 yard KO return?

At that point...you are playing catch-up. The defense already knows you are going to throw..NOT to mention that Chad was injured during the game!

I'm as big of a Chad supporter you will meet, and I am objective enough to know he can not "gun-sling" us to a big come from behind victory..but to his credit there were a LOT of things wrong on 9/9..video camera included.

[Irish Jet]

Here's my take on the "beating top teams" thing.

If he's losing games like Palmer lost the Cleveland game, then you can bust out the "QB doesn't play defense" excuse & you'd be right. 6 touchdowns should suffice I think, regardless of the opponent.

But when the defense is crap & we're still scoring under or around 20 points, that isn't ALL on the defense. These are the times that a QB must step up & put up big points. It can't just be against the likes of the Dolphins & Lions.

The NE game I'd hardly place on Chad's head. Expecting 40 points to match NE's 38 is not a reasonable demand from any QB, Peyton Manning included. But I would expect more than 14 points, QB rating be damned.

If we start losing games 24-14 or 27-21 then while the defense is probably stinking the joint up, I don't consider that an insurmountable score that he should get a pass on. Not at this stage of his career. And without the "Tom Brady couldn't have done any better" foolishness. Because barring an off-day by Brady, he would do better in virtually every situation against every opponent. Being a Jets fan is one thing, but get real.

I like watching my Jets win games, so for as long as he's in there I will always cheer him on. Even through ragging on him during a game, it's not a hate directed at CP personally; it's that I want to see the offense score.

When it's the line, a fan has the right to get pissed off at the line. When it's the RB, same thing. Same for the QB - particularly one who is way past his learning curve. Chad should not be the only player on the team immune to fan criticism.

No Sperm i dont agree about the Pats game.

Chad could hardly get on the damn field cos our D was giving up something like 4 or 5 80+ yard TD drives. Its outrageous to think any QB could put up loads of points when your D is keeping the Pats O on the field for 10 minutes a drive.

Thats how the Pats used to reduce the colts high powered offence to so little, they would dominate Time of possesion with drives that would take up almost a quarter. Chad was doing great, sustaining drives and keeping the chains moving which is very hard to do vs The Pats D, to expect any QB to score a TD on every drive (especially with that O-line and running game) is ridiculous.

Chad held his end in the Pats Game, no one else did (WR's excluded).