PENNINGTON SUKKS

[JETSFAN5180]

Ban me whip me hang me I dont care this guy is a CHOKER.He cant deliver when the game is on the line.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Chad Pennington career OVER New York Jets.

[Iceman88]

Um you clearly haven't been reading too many posts today. A lot of people have finally come around to that same conclusion after todays game.

[jaspegs]

Ban me whip me hang me I dont care this guy is a CHOKER.He cant deliver when the game is on the line.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Chad Pennington career OVER New York Jets.

wats so bad about him...its not like we have a pro bowler second stringer..wow people these days

[D_Eps]

wats so bad about him...its not like we have a pro bowler second stringer..wow people these days

How do you know that? Look at Romo last season. Who knew that they had a pro bowler second stringer when he never even played. What about Brady? Nobody knew about him either.

In his first start against the Ravens he almost won the game and should have at least had a game winning drive (Well, they would have tied it at least) in his first start if it wasn't for three drops in the endzone by his recievers. We have to see what this guy has got. We aren't going anywhere with a 1 - 3 record and a gimpy QB.

[Irish Jet]

If nuge makes a chip shot FG none of this happens. Chad was unlucky today and will bounce back.

I agree the INT at the end was a bad bad desicion on his part but it was a ****ty play call. Such a high risk play to call in that situation.

he will bounce back, rest assured.

[124]

None of this happens? Are you blind? Chad Pennington handed Buffalo 7 points with less than 10 minutes to play with his horrible interception. The defense cannot be faulted when Buffalo's offense has a 20 yard field to work with.

He also handed them the game in the end. THROW THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS JAMES CHADWICK.

[penningtonfan82]

These are the things that make me sad to be apart of the fandom that goes along with rooting for this team...

[124]

These are the things that make me sad to be apart of the fandom that goes along with rooting for this team...

Fan? You are no ****ing Jets fan. You are a Chad Pennington fan.

[Irish Jet]

None of this happens? Are you blind? Chad Pennington handed Buffalo 7 points with less than 10 minutes to play with his horrible interception. The defense cannot be faulted when Buffalo's offense has a 20 yard field to work with.

He also handed them the game in the end. THROW THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS JAMES CHADWICK.

I agree but everyone makes bad desicions at times, 2 INTs to 6TD's is not bad for any QB, i dont care what you say. It was a costly pick but it happens.

The play-calling today on both sides of the ball was ridiculous. Chad was hitting passes down the field, with a bit of PA when the run was working we could have seriously hurt them, why havent we been doing any PA this season????

Nuge's miss was inexcusable and this game is every bit as much on him as it is on Chad. He had one play to make the entire game, an easy one at that, and he blew it.

He makes that kick, we are playing with a lead and its a different ball game.

As for our D, well Edwards stats say it all. Pure disgraceful!!!

Chad struggled today, but its a team game and we lost as a team, to blame it solely on Chad is ridiculous.

[BUM-KNEE]

I agree but everyone makes bad desicions at times, 2 INTs to 6TD's is not bad for any QB, i dont care what you say. It was a costly pick but it happens.

The play-calling today on both sides of the ball was ridiculous. Chad was hitting passes down the field, with a bit of PA when the run was working we could have seriously hurt them, why havent we been doing any PA this season????

Nuge's miss was inexcusable and this game is every bit as much on him as it is on Chad. He had one play to make the entire game, an easy one at that, and he blew it.

He makes that kick, we are playing with a lead and its a different ball game.

As for our D, well Edwards stats say it all. Pure disgraceful!!!

Chad struggled today, but its a team game and we lost as a team, to blame it solely on Chad is ridiculous.

Good post Irish. Chad looked spotty and didnt play well, but 75% of the team played that way so its not on one guy to take all the heat.

[DonCorleone]

How do you know that? Look at Romo last season. Who knew that they had a pro bowler second stringer when he never even played. What about Brady? Nobody knew about him either.

In his first start against the Ravens he almost won the game and should have at least had a game winning drive (Well, they would have tied it at least) in his first start if it wasn't for three drops in the endzone by his recievers. We have to see what this guy has got. We aren't going anywhere with a 1 - 3 record and a gimpy QB.

Well he is definitively Mangini's type of QB. Much smaller than the Normal NFL QB (just like mangini likes it at every position) and he looks a bit frale. I agree that his size may not define how good or bad he is, but why risk getting him killed with my Man Brick out on that great powerful line?

[JonEJet]

If nuge makes a chip shot FG none of this happens. Chad was unlucky today and will bounce back.

I agree the INT at the end was a bad bad desicion on his part but it was a ****ty play call. Such a high risk play to call in that situation.

he will bounce back, rest assured.

Good call

This one is on Nuge

[Arsis]

I don't understand what this guy has done to make everyone have such faith in this guy. If we go by this guy's track record, he'll loose his arm before he bounces back.

[GreenBeans]

I agree but everyone makes bad desicions at times, 2 INTs to 6TD's is not bad for any QB, i dont care what you say. It was a costly pick but it happens.

Individual statistics don't mean squat. Any NFL QB could be 6TD to 2 INT is they only threw 7 yard passes and nothing else. The two throws that any other QB in the NFL could make (an 8 yard out) were picked off. Coles saved his as$ on at least 2 others that could have been picked as well.

The play-calling today on both sides of the ball was ridiculous. Chad was hitting passes down the field, with a bit of PA when the run was working we could have seriously hurt them, why havent we been doing any PA this season????

Play calling looked ridiculous, but you don't know that Pennington didn't just check down to the short throw like he's done since 2002 with Paul Hackett. The few times he did throw down the field, the receiver had to stop and fair catch the pass. Play action, by the way, is hard to establish when the defense stacks 8 men into the box because they have no respect for the passing game.

Nuge's miss was inexcusable and this game is every bit as much on him as it is on Chad. He had one play to make the entire game, an easy one at that, and he blew it.

He makes that kick, we are playing with a lead and its a different ball game.

Ohhhh - I see, blame the kicker for missing a kick but heaven forbid fans call out Pennington for making two huge mistakes that cost the Jets a game. I'd say that an 8 yard out is an easy play for a pro QB and Pennington blew 2 of those - and without Coles and Cotchery possibility 2 others.

As for our D, well Edwards stats say it all. Pure disgraceful!!!

Chad struggled today, but its a team game and we lost as a team, to blame it solely on Chad is ridiculous.

I agree with this. Don't take this as a personal attack, it's not at all, it's just another point of view on today's crappy game...

gb

[Ghost]

Ban me whip me hang me I dont care this guy is a CHOKER.He cant deliver when the game is on the line.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Chad Pennington career OVER New York Jets.

Are you kidding me ? Last time I told you this, I believe it was after the Ravens game you " Tried " to bash me, but it didn't work. Now you start a thread saying this, get real man.

[JETSFAN5180]

NO you get real man.............1-3 this guy is done. He is not the future of the New York Jets....................................PENNINGTON ERA OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Irish Jet]

Play action, by the way, is hard to establish when the defense stacks 8 men into the box because they have no respect for the passing game.

Em, dude, no offence but you just defined why we should use play action.

If they have 8 men in the box, it will open up opportunities down field. When this happend today Chad took advantage of them with big gains.

We should have went PA more and it would have created even more opportunities.

[PETROCK]

The Jets were behind & Chad driving for the potential tie or win & Chad throws an interception. Who couldn't see this coming?? This clown does this every time. This is getting old. At least Clemens would have given the Jets a chance to win just as long as the ball wasn't thrown to McCariens.

[Sperm Edwards]

How the hell is this Nugent's fault? The Jets aren't expected to score TD's in the entire first half against the pitiful Bills?

Give me a f'ing break. The guy sucks. A 2-minute drill takes him half an hour.

[Irish Jet]

How the hell is this Nugent's fault? The Jets aren't expected to score TD's in the entire first half against the pitiful Bills?

Give me a f'ing break. The guy sucks. A 2-minute drill takes him half an hour.

I dont care, if your knocking Chad you have to knock Nuge as well. At least chad made some plays and took some oppurtunities.

Nuge had one and choked.

had that not have happend we have a lead and its a totally different game.

I really think oyur D didnt help Chad out. He seemed to be hitting a rhythm (14 straight completions) especially after the missed FG drive and what they really needed to do was get Buffallo off the field quickly. Instead they gave up long long drives which IMO hurt Chads momentum.

Its like when Kellen played the Ravens, he kept his momentim going cos our d got the Baltimore O off the field quickly.

Today they gave up a long drive and a FG and gave all of the momentum back to Buffallo, whose D pretty much lives and dies with that.

Chads rhythm's gone and he throws a pick. Overall it was a bad game for him but not as bad as you guys are making out. No matter what way you look at it he is still not the weakness of this team.

We cant run, we cant defend I mean we are really screwed at the moment and IMO the QB situation with Chad is by no means a disaster like in Chicago or Miami. Chad played bad today, but it was 1 game so far this season. We ahve to be a abit more flexible than this, no team can possibly drop a QB after 1 bad game.

All QB's have bad games, Manning, Brady, Favre etc all have their off days. Chad wasnt horrific today in fact for the most part he was solid if not very good, the 2 poor desicion were costly I admit but not reason enough to drop him.

Until Chad starts playing seriously bad (Rex grossman style bad) I cant see him being dropped. IMO he will bounce back next week (unsure if we'll win with our D though) and have a good run of games. We cant be this fickle that we drop him after 1 bad game, we just cant.

[Damaged89]

Until Chad starts playing seriously bad (Rex grossman style bad) I cant see him being dropped. IMO he will bounce back next week (unsure if we'll win with our D though) and have a good run of games. We cant be this fickle that we drop him after 1 bad game, we just cant.

It isn't one bad game. He was 32/39 1 TD 2 INT with those two interceptions coming at the worst possible time.

This game was his career in a nutshell. Lots of dumpoffs that kept his completion rating high, but when the game is on the line and he needs to move down the field quickly.. You saw the results. I'm sick of having that sensation of defeat when the game is in his hands.

Bottom Line: He's a smart, accurate choke artist who is physically incapable of engineering a game winning drive.

[Sperm Edwards]

I dont care, if your knocking Chad you have to knock Nuge as well. At least chad made some plays and took some oppurtunities.

Nuge had one and choked.

had that not have happend we have a lead and its a totally different game.

I really think oyur D didnt help Chad out. He seemed to be hitting a rhythm (14 straight completions) especially after the missed FG drive and what they really needed to do was get Buffallo off the field quickly. Instead they gave up long long drives which IMO hurt Chads momentum.

Its like when Kellen played the Ravens, he kept his momentim going cos our d got the Baltimore O off the field quickly.

Today they gave up a long drive and a FG and gave all of the momentum back to Buffallo, whose D pretty much lives and dies with that.

Chads rhythm's gone and he throws a pick. Overall it was a bad game for him but not as bad as you guys are making out. No matter what way you look at it he is still not the weakness of this team.

We cant run, we cant defend I mean we are really screwed at the moment and IMO the QB situation with Chad is by no means a disaster like in Chicago or Miami. Chad played bad today, but it was 1 game so far this season. We ahve to be a abit more flexible than this, no team can possibly drop a QB after 1 bad game.

All QB's have bad games, Manning, Brady, Favre etc all have their off days. Chad wasnt horrific today in fact for the most part he was solid if not very good, the 2 poor desicion were costly I admit but not reason enough to drop him.

Until Chad starts playing seriously bad (Rex grossman style bad) I cant see him being dropped. IMO he will bounce back next week (unsure if we'll win with our D though) and have a good run of games. We cant be this fickle that we drop him after 1 bad game, we just cant.

I don't want this to come out wrong b/c I respect your opinion even though I totally disagree with it. The problem, as I see it, is that this wasn't even a bad game for Pennington. He was like 16 of 18 or something like that in the first half. And it generated ZERO points. Even if Nuge made that kick (which he absolutely should have made), he led us to THREE points against a defense that can stop NO ONE.

Don't tell me about the defense or the OL. The defense pitched a shutout in the first half and we STILL weren't winning. The OL in Detroit gave up like 7 sacks & I don't know how many other hurries & career backup Jon Kitna still torched Chicago with the great Mike Furrey as his leading receiver.

Enough of the excuses. Pennington is adequate if the defense is well above average, the OL gives him lots of time, the running game is strong despite no passing threat downfield, and if the opponent is a bottom-feeder. But since we don't play bottom-feeders every week, and since we are unlikely to face these types of teams in the playoffs, what is the point of keeping Pennington in there?

Even if he suddenly becomes better than ever before (which no one could honestly believe will happen), he'll probably just get injured again anyway.

[Ghost]

NO you get real man.............1-3 this guy is done. He is not the future of the New York Jets....................................PENNINGTON ERA OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF ? Are you okay ?

Did I ever say start chad ?

No, I want Clemens to start. I just hate how you changed your mind that fast.

[ECURB]

Ban me whip me hang me I dont care this guy is a CHOKER.He cant deliver when the game is on the line.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Chad Pennington career OVER New York Jets.

He has NINE game WINNING drives... so regarless of how bad he may or my not have sucked today, your wrong.... get your facts straight..

[Irish Jet]

Okay the drive were we got the ball back in the second half which I think along with the Nuge FG think turned the game.

Chad was after a great drive right before the half in which he had got us in range only for Nuge to miss, we get the ball back.

TJ runs for like 1 yrd.

Chad dumps off for a good gain, 8 yards I think.

3rd and 1, run up the middle for -4 yrds, punting and then giving up a TD.

thats a 10 point spin right there with absolutely none of it the fault of Chad. We should have passed on that 3rd down, had we (even if it was short) we prob would have got a big gain.

I feel sorry for chad, I really dont think he deserves all of this abuse, like you said Sperm its not like he stunk up the joint. A play here or there could have been the difference in this game, IMO Chad got very unlucky. I admit the picks were on him however I dont think he should have been put in a position to throw them.

Our playcalling was God awful, I knew that curl route was coming and obviously so did Buffalo, Indeed it was a bad desicion but still too predictable.

Unlike our corners who dont seem to know what a frickin curl route is.

[GreenBeans]

Em, dude, no offence but you just defined why we should use play action.

If they have 8 men in the box, it will open up opportunities down field. When this happend today Chad took advantage of them with big gains.

We should have went PA more and it would have created even more opportunities.

...and then Chad would throw a moon-shot 20 yard pass to a once wide open now ready to get killed receiver down field. Or it would get picked off or plain old defended. Or Pennington dumps it off 5 yards down field and the receiver is instantly tackled. Pennington, even though he is a smart QB, a great game manager, and a leader, is also a major liability to running a complete offense. Time for the Pennington era to end - send him to Chicago, he'd do well there.

[Irish Jet]

...and then Chad would throw a moon-shot 20 yard pass to a once wide open now ready to get killed receiver down field. Or it would get picked off or plain old defended. Or Pennington dumps it off 5 yards down field and the receiver is instantly tackled. Pennington, even though he is a smart QB, a great game manager, and a leader, is also a major liability to running a complete offense. Time for the Pennington era to end - send him to Chicago, he'd do well there.

WTF???

Chads throws that did go down the field today were perfect and I mean perfect. He hi Cotchery twice in stride coming across the field that allowed him to turn and go for extra yardage.

Your just making up stuff now.

[Sperm Edwards]

Okay the drive were we got the ball back in the second half which I think along with the Nuge FG think turned the game.

Chad was after a great drive right before the half in which he had got us in range only for Nuge to miss, we get the ball back.

TJ runs for like 1 yrd.

Chad dumps off for a good gain, 8 yards I think.

3rd and 1, run up the middle for -4 yrds, punting and then giving up a TD.

thats a 10 point spin right there with absolutely none of it the fault of Chad. We should have passed on that 3rd down, had we (even if it was short) we prob would have got a big gain.

I feel sorry for chad, I really dont think he deserves all of this abuse, like you said Sperm its not like he stunk up the joint. A play here or there could have been the difference in this game, IMO Chad got very unlucky. I admit the picks were on him however I dont think he should have been put in a position to throw them.

Our playcalling was God awful, I knew that curl route was coming and obviously so did Buffalo, Indeed it was a bad desicion but still too predictable.

Unlike our corners who dont seem to know what a frickin curl route is.

Well this is where we just differ, friend. I don't think we realize all of the big plays that simply don't happen when Chad is driving the car. Take a look at all the highlights around the league. You think they all happen by accident? Does every team in the league have better receivers than we do? Fat chance. Chad simply can't do it.

Oh sure there's a play here & there. And once in a while he throws a deep incompletion to "stretch" the defense, but are they really that fooled?

I don't have any delusions about Clemens being some chained-down Brett Favre on the bench. But I know what I saw. I saw our receivers catch the ball before defenders got there. Against a defense that was playing well (however badly they may look now). Zip zip zip. I couldn't believe a Jets QB was throwing the ball with such authority. The only real problem was that the receivers weren't used to it; only Cotchery had zero issues with his fastballs.

This team is so damned boring. Boring is ok if we're winning game after game. But we're not. We watch football for entertainment. And this is not entertaining. It's a giant bore. And CP is a main cause of it. Not THE cause, but he's an integral reason to this offense being mostly vanilla since like forever.

[GreenBeans]

WTF???

Chads throws that did go down the field today were perfect and I mean perfect. He hi Cotchery twice in stride coming across the field that allowed him to turn and go for extra yardage.

Your just making up stuff now.

Does that include the "bullet" that Pennington threw to Cotchery that almost got him killed by a linebacker? How about the "deep" pass that the receiver - again it may have been Cotchery- had to stop and wait for down field? The only receptions that are "in stride" are no further than 10 yards down the field EVER. This I see week in and week out, no need to make it up.

[Iceman88]

WTF???

Chads throws that did go down the field today were perfect and I mean perfect. He hi Cotchery twice in stride coming across the field that allowed him to turn and go for extra yardage.

Your just making up stuff now.

Those throws went 15 yards MAX in the air. Thats not a downfield throw, thats a mid range pass. However with Chad that becomes the deep ball.

[faba]

Any defense will not respect us to go down the field with Chad- that is a fact.

[Irish Jet]

Any defense will not respect us to go down the field with Chad- that is a fact.

Well considering that in he has succesfully executed the 2 minute drill twice in 2 games before the half makes that hard to believe.

1 for a TD and the other in position for a Chip shot.

He also just plain messed up that last drive with a bad desicion which was uncharachteristic of him. It was a terrible playcall, McCairens should never be the primary route in a situation like that.especially not with a damn fade route. Far far too risky a playcall.

They had 17 seconds, they should have dumped off over the middle as it would have been open(Im sure you know thats Chads forte) and got up and spiked it.

That would have put Nuge at least in position to send it to OT.

[faba]

Well considering that in he has succesfully executed the 2 minute drill twice in 2 games before the half makes that hard to believe.

1 for a TD and the other in position for a Chip shot.

He also just plain messed up that last drive with a bad desicion which was uncharachteristic of him. It was a terrible playcall, McCairens should never be the primary route in a situation like that.especially not with a damn fade route. Far far too risky a playcall.

They had 17 seconds, they should have dumped off over the middle as it would have been open(Im sure you know thats Chads forte) and got up and spiked it.

That would have put Nuge at least in position to send it to OT.

Where was he the whole game=14 points will not win you any games in this league and all I saw was 5 yard dump-offs -I could make those type of throws!

[Sperm Edwards]

Well considering that in he has succesfully executed the 2 minute drill twice in 2 games before the half makes that hard to believe.

1 for a TD and the other in position for a Chip shot.

He also just plain messed up that last drive with a bad desicion which was uncharachteristic of him. It was a terrible playcall, McCairens should never be the primary route in a situation like that.

I don't agree on the "success" of his 2-minute drill.

The first half he had enough time to get closer than they did. Why is a freakin' TOUCHDOWN such an unheard of scenario? At the end of both halves, time ticking down & he's still throwing rainbow-arc dumpoffs. It's infuriating to watch.

There are other subtleties. 3rd & 12 early on I think it was, they call a run up the middle. It worked, so it goes unnoticed. But it rarely does. Yet we still call this play time after time b/c this coaching staff (like the ones before it) feel that it's better to pad a punt by 3-8 yards than try some futile attempt at Pennington throwing a 15 yard pass for a first down.

Enough already. He's painful to watch. Clemens may be more painful, but I'd rather know by trying rather than fearing worse than we have, because these receivers make him look better than he is.

[Irish Jet]

Where was he the whole game=14 points will not win you any games in this league and all I saw was 5 yard dump-offs -I could make those type of throws!

Firstly, I was quoting your post that said Chad couldnt go down the field. Chad has proven that to be BS.

Secondly, He should have put up 17 only Nuge messed up. Which would have been enough to tie.

Chad wasnt consistent today and I patly blame the D for that for giving up our Offensive momentum by allowing long drives.

Also some drives fell apart due to penalties (Brick says Hi) and no running game. not every drive ended with Chad messing up, in fact very few did.