124 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 53 touchdowns - 42 interceptions. All good QB's must have a ratio close to or exactly at or better than 2 to 1. Way to go Chad! BUT HEY, HIS COMPLETION PERCENTAGE IS AWESOME! WOOHOO!! Everyone on this board would have that kind of completion percentage in the offense Pistol Pete Pennington conducts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 124 is having a field day today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 53 touchdowns - 42 interceptions. All good QB's must have a 2 to 1 ratio. Way to go Chad! BUT HEY, HIS COMPLETION PERCENTAGE IS AWESOME! WOOHOO!! Everyone on this board would have that kind of completion percentage in the offense Pistol Pete Pennington conducts. I was waiting for stats from you to back the cause even though football intelligence is enough for most of us to know pennington needs to grab the clipboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Its 6-2 on the season (TD run incl). Does that mean hes having a great year 124??? Surely by that crappy logic that the case, No??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Chad is a genius. How many other QBs in the league can post those types of numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Tom Brady '03-'07 TDs: 111 INTs: 53 STARTED EVERY SINGLE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Peyton Manning '03-'07 TDs: 145 INTs: 40 STARTED EVERY SINGLE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Donovan McNabb '03-'07: TDs: 86 INTs: 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Answer my question 124!!! Your logic basically implies chad is having a great season. Career numbers aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 haha. this is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Answer my question 124!!! Your logic basically implies chad is having a great season. Career numbers aside. Your logic implies that 3 games is a large enough sample size to declare that he is having a great season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 53 touchdowns - 42 interceptions. All good QB's must have a 2 to 1 ratio. Way to go Chad! BUT HEY, HIS COMPLETION PERCENTAGE IS AWESOME! WOOHOO!! Everyone on this board would have that kind of completion percentage in the offense Pistol Pete Pennington conducts. ok, dude, whip out those budding journalistic sports writer talents and give us something we can sink our teeth into, give us something as a comparison to back this up, and not just brady/manning/marino type players. Lets see a comparison, lets say qb's who in careers of more then 4 years as a starter with at least 40 tds, lets see where CP ranks. Also, among current starting qbs across the league with 4 years starting and at least 40 tds, where would chad be. To just say, "this is player A's numbers, good players would be X numbers" is kind of hallow and suspect to readers who like to think for themselves and form their own opinions from informative sources. Not saying you are wrong here Joe, just saying, if i want to play with stats, i will give examples as to why it is what it is, you have to compare numbers to numbers otherwise it is meaningless to an intelligent person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Answer my question 124!!! Your logic basically implies chad is having a great season. Career numbers aside. It is 5-2, a touchdown ran in is not to be included. It is four games into the season, three in which the egg actually played in. THREE GAMES DO NOT COMPARE FROM '03-FIRST FOUR GAMES OF '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Some times numbers do lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 ok, dude, whip out those budding journalistic sports writer talents and give us something we can sink our teeth into, give us something as a comparison to back this up, and not just brady/manning/marino type players. Lets see a comparison, lets say qb's who in careers of more then 4 years as a starter with at least 40 tds, lets see where CP ranks. Also, among current starting qbs across the league with 4 years starting and at least 40 tds, where would chad be. To just say, "this is player A's numbers, good players would be X numbers" is kind of hallow and suspect to readers who like to think for themselves and form their own opinions from informative sources. Not saying you are wrong here Joe, just saying, if i want to play with stats, i will give examples as to why it is what it is, you have to compare numbers to numbers otherwise it is meaningless to an intelligent person. So you can 't handle the FACTS? What do 40 Touchdowns have to do with anything? You are clearly off the wall in your statement here. You are making zero sense. 40 touchdowns for guys in the league for 4 seasons? ****, considering thats 10 TDs a season I would hope a starter for four years could manage those monster numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Your logic implies that 3 games is a large enough sample size to declare that he is having a great season. Why not??? Its a large enough span to drop Rex Grossman, heck 1 game was a big enough span for the Browns to send Charlie Frye packing. Course it can imply whether he having a great season so far, It doesnt mean he'll end it taht way but so far yes it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Your logic implies that 3 games is a large enough sample size to declare that he is having a great season. I am going from '03-'07, not '07-'07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Carson Palmer - '04-'07, ONE LESS YEAR THAN JAMES CHADWICK TDs: 87 INTs: 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I just think the simple answer is at 1-3 and no explosiveness and vertical game to our offesne option B right now is the exciting and practical option right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Marc Bulger '03-'07 TDs: 83 INTs: 57 Still better than Chad and I'll keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I am going from '03-'07, not '07-'07. Why?? Heck if your allowed to choose the timespan why not just throw in 2002. Oh thats right that would be against your religion of trying to make chad look as bad as possible!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ok, dude, whip out those budding journalistic sports writer talents and give us something we can sink our teeth into, give us something as a comparison to back this up, and not just brady/manning/marino type players. Lets see a comparison, lets say qb's who in careers of more then 4 years as a starter with at least 40 tds, lets see where CP ranks. Also, among current starting qbs across the league with 4 years starting and at least 40 tds, where would chad be. To just say, "this is player A's numbers, good players would be X numbers" is kind of hallow and suspect to readers who like to think for themselves and form their own opinions from informative sources. Not saying you are wrong here Joe, just saying, if i want to play with stats, i will give examples as to why it is what it is, you have to compare numbers to numbers otherwise it is meaningless to an intelligent person. I have never seen a journalist do something like that. Sports journalists are people that weren't good enough to play sports and were too stupid to become real journalists. And real journalists are people that were too stupid to succeed in whatever field they are reporting on. What you're asking him to do is go above and beyond what people get paid to do. What you're also asking him to do is think for you, and then when he writes it up you'll still ignore it, because you already made up your mind beforehand. I would think most people are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions, and would prefer someone objectively presenting data to them. I know that's what I prefer. Maybe I'm just smarter than you I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Why?? Heck if your allowed to choose the timespan why not just throw in 2002. Oh thats right that would be against your religion of trying to make chad look as bad as possible!!! Because Chad Pennington is not the same quarterback as he was in ONE MAGICAL SEASON. Since then he has been hurt and has not been the same Quarterback toolbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Marc Bulger '03-'07 TDs: 83 INTs: 57 Still better than Chad and I'll keep going. How that going for him now???? How are the rams doing??? Seriously, this thread is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Tom Brady '03-'07 TDs: 111 INTs: 53 STARTED EVERY SINGLE GAME Peyton Manning '03-'07 TDs: 145 INTs: 40 STARTED EVERY SINGLE GAME Donovan McNabb '03-'07: TDs: 86 INTs: 35 Great, we have officially ruled out that Chad is not as good as Payton Manning, Tom Brady, or Donovan McNabb, in other news the sky is blue and the moon is not i repeat not made of cheese. How many QB's with at least 4 years experience as a starter have been playing in the nfl over the last 10 years? Where do Chad's numbers fall in relation to that number? I'll make it easier, of the current qb's starting game 1 this year with four years starting, what has their numbers been? All this did was say that CP is not a top 3 qb, which i think nobody with even the greenest of glasses will dispute. BTW, i liked the dramatic effect of posting each qb 's numbers as a seperate post, lol hey, at least we can share a beer, non alcoholic for you, at the game this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I have never seen a journalist do something like that. Sports journalists are people that weren't good enough to play sports and were too stupid to become real journalists. And real journalists are people that were too stupid to succeed in whatever field they are reporting on. What you're asking him to do is go above and beyond what people get paid to do. What you're also asking him to do is think for you, and then when he writes it up you'll still ignore it, because you already made up your mind beforehand. I would think most people are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions, and would prefer someone objectively presenting data to them. I know that's what I prefer. Maybe I'm just smarter than you I guess. Thanks seprhenx, but as a writer I don't consider us writers dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Drew Brees '03-'07: TDs: 89 INTs: 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Jake Delhomme: TDs: 97 INTs: 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 see this is the stuff that gets out hand, i dont think anyone here is delibrately bashing 1 qb to the other, but i do think that people have had enough of pennington and the sideline to sideline offense and how there isnt any explosiveness to it. we need a new element to this offense, as chad did for us in 2002 i think clemens can do that same this year and spark a postseason run, and then when 2008 comes around i think clemens has more natural talent to be a continued success and not a 1 season wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Because Chad Pennington is not the same quarterback as he was in ONE MAGICAL SEASON. Since then he has been hurt and has not been the same Quarterback toolbag. If thats the case then lets just do this year, i mean hes been hurt since has he not??? Why judge him on the 2003 Chad??? Your agenda is quite pathetic to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Why?? Heck if your allowed to choose the timespan why not just throw in 2002. Oh thats right that would be against your religion of trying to make chad look as bad as possible!!! Because it is after the surgeries, and also more recent history is a better prediction for future results. I don't see where he isn't including what Chad has done so far this year either, it's just you don't use 3 games worth of data over 3 years worth of data. That's just dumb, I can't believe somebody would actually try and argue that we should only look at the data for 3 games this year and from 2002, and ignore everything in between. I don't even know how you can accuse someone of a bias when yours is just so blatant. At least he has objective reasons for it, the surgery, recent history, and a decent sampling size. You want most recent and oldest history only, that is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 hey, at least we can share a beer, non alcoholic for me, at the game this week Changed your post. You're going to the game? Nice I just listed Palmer, Brees, Bulger and Delhomme for you. Shall I continue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 If thats the case then lets just do this year, i mean hes been hurt since has he not??? Why judge him on the 2003 Chad??? Your agenda is quite pathetic to be honest. Since 2002 he has been injuried and nothing like his 2002 self. 2002 was one CP, 03-present is this one. You are the one with the sad agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 and if your going to bring up 2004 and 2006 penningtons lack of explosiveness was still an issue. we had curtis martin in 2004 and a cake schedule last season with a lot of big plays that didnt come from the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 see this is the stuff that gets out hand, i dont think anyone here is delibrately bashing 1 qb to the other, but i do think that people have had enough of pennington and the sideline to sideline offense and how there isnt any explosiveness to it. we need a new element to this offense, as chad did for us in 2002 i think clemens can do that same this year and spark a postseason run, and then when 2008 comes around i think clemens has more natural talent to be a continued success and not a 1 season wonder. I'm not bashing anyone, what 124's doing now is worthless and pathetic. I like Clemens, he is our QB of the future and I hope he is succesful. When he is named the starter I will back him 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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