GM Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 The Officer is disgusting. She should be stripped of her badge. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/seminole/orl-mdrown1007oct10,0,7318452.story?coll=orl-sports-headlines-motorrace CASSELBERRY - In January, 1-year-old Joey Cosmillo wandered into the backyard and fell into the family pool. When his mother hauled him out, he wasn't breathing. Rescuers were able to bring him back to life, but he suffered severe brain damage and cannot walk, talk or even swallow. Now, his family faces another burden: One of the rescuers, Casselberry police Sgt. Andrea Eichhorn, is suing, alleging the family left a puddle of water on the floor that afternoon, causing her to slip and fall. WHAT!??! It is your JOB! PS, the Police department requires slip resistant shoes. The baby's mother was the only one home Jan. 9, when the boy slipped out of the house and wound up in the pool, according to a police report. She plunged in and dragged him out, carrying him inside, down a hallway and into a bedroom. She also called 911. Eichhorn arrived a few minutes later. As she stepped into the room where rescuers were working on the boy, she slipped and went down on one knee, then stood back up, according to Richard Cosmillo. Later that day, she went to an emergency care center and eventually to an orthopedist, according to her attorney, David Heil. While she was on medical leave, Pavlis said, the city's insurer paid her medical bills and provided disability checks. Eichhorn, a 12-year department veteran, would not discuss the suit. Her attorney said those benefits, paid by the city's workers' compensation carrier, were not enough. The suit seeks an unspecified amount of money. Eichhorn, he said, is a victim. Her knee aches, and she will likely develop arthritis. Hmmm..I guess the brain damaged baby is not the victim. f the Cosmillos had made their pool baby-proof, police would not have been called to the scene, there would have been no water on the floor, and Eichhorn would not have hurt herself, he said. "It's a situation where the Cosmillos have caused these problems, brought them on themselves, then tried to play the victim," he said. God forbid they had sex and brought a baby into the world. And having a baby gate is not law. It is wise, but not law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am torn on this one. The lawyer is a straight up dick and should be shot. Short of knowing all the details of her accident, this sounds like an indictment of the health care system supporting that cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What an incredible piece of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am torn on this one. The lawyer is a straight up dick and should be shot. Short of knowing all the details of her accident, this sounds like an indictment of the health care system supporting that cop. She responded to a 911 call. It was a drowning. As a cop you should expect danger. So expecting water on the floor as they dragged a baby out of a pool is common sense. She is a POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What state did this happen in? I would think the cop would be limited to the workers comp benefits, and the suit should be tossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 What state did this happen in? I would think the cop would be limited to the workers comp benefits, and the suit should be tossed. Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Florida 440.091 Law enforcement officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, or paramedic; when acting within the course of employment.-- (1) If an employee: (a) Is elected, appointed, or employed full time by a municipality, the state, or any political subdivision and is vested with authority to bear arms and make arrests and the employee's primary responsibility is the prevention or detection of crime or the enforcement of the penal, criminal, traffic, or highway laws of the state; (Was discharging that primary responsibility within the state in a place and under circumstances reasonably consistent with that primary responsibility; and © Was not engaged in services for which he or she was paid by a private employer, and the employee and his or her public employer had no agreement providing for workers' compensation coverage for that private employment; the employee is considered to have been acting within the course of employment. The term "employee" as used in this subsection includes all certified supervisory and command personnel whose duties include, in whole or in part, responsibilities for the supervision, training, guidance, and management of full-time law enforcement officers, part-time law enforcement officers, or auxiliary law enforcement officers but does not include support personnel employed by the employing agency. (2) If a firefighter as defined by s. 112.191(1)( is engaged in extinguishing a fire, or protecting and saving life or property due to a fire in this state in an emergency, and such activities would be considered to be within the course of his or her employment as a firefighter and covered by the employer's workers' compensation coverage except for the fact that the firefighter was off duty or that the location of the fire was outside the employer's jurisdiction or area of responsibility, such activities are considered to be within the course of employment. This subsection does not apply if the firefighter is performing activities for which he or she is paid by another employer or contractor. (3) If an emergency medical technician or paramedic is appointed or employed full time by a municipality, the state, or any political subdivision, is certified under chapter 401, is providing basic life support or advanced life support services, as defined in s. 401.23, in an emergency situation in this state, and such activities would be considered to be within the course of his or her employment as an emergency medical technician or paramedic and covered by the employer's workers' compensation coverage except for the fact that the location of the emergency was outside of the employer's jurisdiction or area of responsibility, such activities are considered to be within the course of employment. The provisions of this subsection do not apply if the emergency medical technician or paramedic is performing activities for which he or she is paid by another employer or contractor. ---- I think the suit should be tossed, but if I have time, i will look into some cross-sections to see if there are exceptions (there are always loopholes, but this is pretty much black letter law). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What kind of mother lets her 1 year old baby fall into a pool? Some people really should not be having kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What kind of mother lets her 1 year old baby fall into a pool? Some people really should not be having kids. You'd be surprised how often these tragedies happen in Florida, with all the pools and negligent supervision of kids by their parent. It's sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 You'd be surprised how often these tragedies happen in Florida, with all the pools and negligent supervision of kids by their parent. It's sad but true. That is why there is a law that the pool must have a gate IF YOU RENT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What kind of mother lets her 1 year old baby fall into a pool? Some people really should not be having kids. I wouldn't rush to judgement on someone's parenting off of a story that isn't complete. We dont know what else was going on that day, there is really no way of telling. Chances are you are right that she was being an unfit parent, but you just never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 That is why there is a law that the pool must have a gate IF YOU RENT.... Heh, timely. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=663241&postcount=9 And trust me, my home is a matchbox. But I own and paid off that matchbox, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I wouldn't rush to judgement on someone's parenting off of a story that isn't complete. We dont know what else was going on that day, there is really no way of telling. Chances are you are right that she was being an unfit parent, but you just never know. It seems like a slam dunk that this case is a loser. It was pretty chitty to even file it, but the truth is ANYONE can file a lawsuit for just about ANYTHING, but that doesnt mean it will stick. One of the rescuers, Casselberry police Sgt. Andrea Eichhorn, is suing... There are reporters stationed in the courthouse who go thru the day's filings to see if anything is of interest. Merely filing the suit doesnt mean they will get a dime, but it makes for reading...and there probably wont be a peep about it the day after the judge throws it out. Just like when a verdict comes in for $X million. it makes the papers. Jury verdicts that award nothing or a measly $5,000 dont sell papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I wouldn't rush to judgement on someone's parenting off of a story that isn't complete. We dont know what else was going on that day, there is really no way of telling. Chances are you are right that she was being an unfit parent, but you just never know. In what world is there a justification for being this negligent? It doesn't matter HOW it happened, it's the result that is appalling. People rush to defend in certain situations for some reason but not others. When it's something a cop does or in this case it seems we don't know the full story, but when it comes to dogfighting everyone's rushing to condemn the person and nobody wants to hear that we should wait to hear the full story. Maybe you reserve judgment in all cases so this doesn't apply to you, but it's something I noticed and it is funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 In what world is there a justification for being this negligent? It doesn't matter HOW it happened, it's the result that is appalling. People rush to defend in certain situations for some reason but not others. When it's something a cop does or in this case it seems we don't know the full story, but when it comes to dogfighting everyone's rushing to condemn the person and nobody wants to hear that we should wait to hear the full story. Maybe you reserve judgment in all cases so this doesn't apply to you, but it's something I noticed and it is funny to me. I did sort of rush to judgement on Vick. In my defense he has a past and it is pretty well documented, justifying my possision to me. Although you have a more than valid point that people tend to protect some and condem others. One thing i can say is that i don't overly protect police officers' rights. There is an instance in milwaukee right now where 2 or 3 cops have been fired but continue to get paid by the city for 2 years now. They keep appealing why they got fired, so they stay on the pay roll. Those three are total shmucks, and everyone in this city knows the story, and the cops will not respond to questions from reports, instead they run away like cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 My girl is 15 months. I turn for 1 second and she is gone. **** happens, don't blame the parents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 ....but when it comes to dogfighting everyone's rushing to condemn the person and nobody wants to hear that we should wait to hear the full story. Michael Vick admitted his own wrong-doing and pled guilty. What the hell are you even talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetaholic Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 My girl is 15 months. I turn for 1 second and she is gone. **** happens, don't blame the parents! I hear ya. I guess that's why child leashes are becoming more popular. All it takes is a second and they are out of your site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I am torn on this one. The lawyer is a straight up dick and should be shot. Short of knowing all the details of her accident, this sounds like an indictment of the health care system supporting that cop. How about shooting the POS lawyer with the cops gun? The cop gets framed for the lawyers murder goes to jail where she'll get free meals, HBO and the best medical care for her poor knee. Case clooosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 My girl is 15 months. I turn for 1 second and she is gone. **** happens, don't blame the parents! It certainly does Girl, 4, dies of fall into Grand Canyon THE ASSOCIATED PRESS GRAND CANYON NATIONAL PARK, Ariz. -- A 4-year-old girl was killed Tuesday when she slipped off the edge of the Grand Canyon and fell several hundred feet. The girl's father immediately scrambled down the cliffs and started CPR with the help of a park ranger who rappelled into the canyon, National Park Service spokeswoman Maureen Oltrogge said. The child's body was 400 to 500 feet below the rim, Oltrogge said. The area where she fell is a combination of sheer drops of 30 to 50 feet, then slopes leading to more drop-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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