ECURB Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Some here seem to not understand them... The front office is in charge of assembling a team in conjunction with the coaching staff. The players are then expected to play the best and hardest they can. If players dont play well and there is possibly a better option it is the coaches job to use that other player... Can we criticize a player for stinking it up? Sure... they are paid, grown men. Remember though JETS fans... if your bashing a player for stinking it up... you better be also bashing the coaching staff for letting it continue... Here is a perfect example... Chad Pennington has been a major factor in the last two losses... Eric Mangini continues to support him, if your going to bash Chad for coming up short then you better be bashing Mangini for letting such a supposedly crappy player continue to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Well aint that the truth!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penningtonfan82 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Here is a perfect example... Chad Pennington has been a major factor in the last two losses... Eric Mangini continues to support him, if your going to bash Chad for coming up short then you better be bashing Mangini for letting such a supposedly crappy player continue to play... I wouldn't call him a crappy player, I would call him a struggling player, hopefully he can get back to being the "cerebral" qb he is this weekend, and none of that stuff circling him will get in the way. I agree about blaming the FO & coaching staff, they're the ones who make decisions. Seems like everyone around the team is supporting Chad. Atleast for one more week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 I wouldn't call him a crappy player, I would call him a struggling player, hopefully he can get back to being the "cerebral" qb he is this weekend, and none of that stuff circling him will get in the way. I agree about blaming the FO & coaching staff, they're the ones who make decisions. Chad is just doing his job to the best of his ability... I could see getting mad at a player who doesnt try... Blame Mangini and Shotty... not Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugentfan1 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Chad is just doing his job to the best of his ability... I could see getting mad at a player who doesnt try... Blame Mangini and Shotty... not Chad exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The only thing more pathetic than Chad Pennington's play...are his die hard fans who would rather throw Everyone but him under the bus...INCLUDING JOE NAMATH. You should have your fan card pulled just for uttering such blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 The only thing more pathetic than Chad Pennington's play...are his die hard fans who would rather throw Everyone but him under the bus...INCLUDING JOE NAMATH. You should have your fan card pulled just for uttering such blasphemy. Yes Smizzy....that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugentfan1 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 The only thing more pathetic than Chad Pennington's play...are his die hard fans who would rather throw Everyone but him under the bus but him...INCLUDING JOE NAMATH. You should have your fan card pulled just for uttering such blasphemy. its not throwing everybody under the bus but chad, its blaming everybody that had a part in the terrible playing that this team has done. we can admit when chad makes mistakes and lately hes made some bad passes but he is not alone in making bad plays. this entire team needs to get their act together but everybody is too thickheaded to realize that and they put the blame 100% on chad and chad alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Mangini is to blame as well. Feel better now? I'd be more confident in Mangini's talent assessment if he didn't insist on two years (and counting) of a 3-4 defense using DRob as a NT and Jonathan Vilma as an ILB. "Mangenius" my left one. I think he'd be a good HC with proper talent, but that's probably me wishing it so. I still have hope for him. Herm was a lost cause. Anyone that can turn the Chiefs' #1 offense into the league's #31 offense in less than a year & a half is hopeless. If Mangini gets a real NT, gets two thumpers in the middle of the LB corps, and puts a decent OL on the field & still sucks, then he's just Herm with fewer dumb sound bytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 its not throwing everybody under the bus but chad, its blaming everybody that had a part in the terrible playing that this team has done. we can admit when chad makes mistakes and lately hes made some bad passes but he is not alone in making bad plays. this entire team needs to get their act together but everybody is too thickheaded to realize that and they put the blame 100% on chad and chad alone. The Chad Pennington led offense has averaged 14.75 points a game. That sucks and is a major problem. As a Pats fan I would be very happy if Chadwick played for the rest of the year but I also like a lot of the posters here and want them to enjoy some Jet wins. Obviously you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 CHAD: Gritty, determined, tough. But his time in NY is over. Years ago he would pick apart defenses and rarely throw picks. 20 in the past 21 games aint gonna do it. Its Clemens time. MANGINI/TENNENBAUM: Nice story last year but reality check. We are playing 3-4 defense with 4-3 players. It could take a few YEARS do get the right personell to fit the scheme. Fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 The Chad Pennington led offense has averaged 14.75 points a game. That sucks and is a major problem. As a Pats fan I would be very happy if Chadwick played for the rest of the year but I also like a lot of the posters here and want them to enjoy some Jet wins. Obviously you don't. and its Mangini's fault for letting it continue along that path... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 and its Mangini's fault for letting it continue along that path... The typical ecurb response. "It's not Chad's fault" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 The only thing more pathetic than Chad Pennington's play...are his die hard fans who would rather throw Everyone but him under the but...INCLUDING JOE NAMATH. You should have your fan card pulled just for uttering such blasphemy. Endorsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Endorsed. Dont bring up another thread... no matter how off the wall that one was... this one is spot on... Chad bad play isnt the problem... its Mangini not doing anything about it that is... Mangini knows what he has in Chad (or should) so its his fault for putting him out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 The typical ecurb response. "It's not Chad's fault" Its Chads fault for doing what he is told? Mangini wants him to play... and if he is as god awful as you all say he is... shouldnt Mangini see that as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Its Chads fault for doing what he is told? Mangini wants him to play... and if he is as god awful as you all say he is... shouldnt Mangini see that as well? So you are blaming Manjudas for Chad sucking this year? Can you admit that Chad is not a good QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Its Chads fault for doing what he is told? Mangini wants him to play... and if he is as god awful as you all say he is... shouldnt Mangini see that as well? They told him to throw two fourth quarter ints in the last two games? OIC Mangini can be criticized for his decisions, and Chad can be criticized for his play. It isnt mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Its Chads fault for doing what he is told? Mangini wants him to play... and if he is as god awful as you all say he is... shouldnt Mangini see that as well? So Mangini is telling Chad to go out there and throw picks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 So Mangini is telling Chad to go out there and throw picks...... No, Belichick was, Chad only thought it was Mangini. You see, it went like this.... Belichick screwed with our headset transmission and told Chad to throw those INT's. Chads a loyal man, he was only doing what he thought Mangini was asking of him. Now that Chad knows it was Belichick.... expect pain....great pain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 They told him to throw two fourth quarter ints in the last two games? OIC Mangini can be criticized for his decisions, and Chad can be criticized for his play. It isnt mutually exclusive. So Mangini is telling Chad to go out there and throw picks...... This isnt about what I think of Chad's play... your trying to make it about that... but its not... This is about how terrible some people here think he is... but wont bash mangini as well... if he is as terrible as some say... Mangini is a complete IDIOT... HOw can Smizzy say all this **** about Chad being a horrible QB... but not bash Mangini for it happening? If Chad is that bad, why is he playing? Either he isnt as bad as some of you think... or Mangini is an idiot... take your pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 If Chad is that bad, why is he playing? Either he isnt as bad as some of you think... or Mangini is an idiot... take your pick... He isnt as good as you think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 He isnt as good as you think he is. Still not the point... The point is... these people are bashing Chad still... but after weeks of them bashing Chad... they need to start bashing Mangini instead if they feel their views are correct... becuase if they think their POV is correct than Mangini is a fool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Still not the point... The point is... these people are bashing Chad still... but after weeks of them bashing Chad... they need to start bashing Mangini instead if they feel their views are correct... becuase if they think their POV is correct than Mangini is a fool... Anything to make them stop bashing CP, eh? Like i said before, both can be criticised, Mrs. Pennington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Still not the point... The point is... these people are bashing Chad still... but after weeks of them bashing Chad... they need to start bashing Mangini instead if they feel their views are correct... becuase if they think their POV is correct than Mangini is a fool... They bash Chad, but dont bash Mangini you bash Mangini, but dont bash Chad Jetcane said it best "Mangini can be criticized for his decisions, and Chad can be criticized for his play. It isnt mutually exclusive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Anything to make them stop bashing CP, eh? Like i said before, both can be criticised, Mrs. Pennington. At this point why? Chad tries his best... Mangini keeps putting him out there... its nto like he has a gun to Mangini's head... he is just doing his job... its not his fault the FO couldnt find anyone better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 They bash Chad, but dont bash Mangini you bash Mangini, but dont bash Chad Jetcane said it best "Mangini can be criticized for his decisions, and Chad can be criticized for his play. It isnt mutually exclusive" I admitted the last two games he blew it... He also has at least one TD in each of his last 10 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 I admitted the last two games he blew it... He also has at least one TD in each of his last 10 games... is that something to brag about because in his last 20 games he has 23tds and 21 ints...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 is that something to brag about because in his last 20 games he has 23tds and 21 ints...... Why does Mangini keep playing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Why does Mangini keep playing him? Could be any number of reasons, most of which have already been posted and rehashed here plenty. We actually may never know the real reason...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Why does Mangini keep playing him? Why do you polish Chad's knob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Could be any number of reasons, most of which have already been posted and rehashed here plenty. We actually may never know the real reason...... If Chad is as bad as Smizzy/Barton and co. say he is... Mangini is a complete ****ing moron... and they need to admit they think that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 Why do you polish Chad's knob? It tastes like candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Why does Mangini keep playing him? NY Jets Oct. 12, 2007 Mangini can't afford to bench Pennington ... yet Despite Chad Pennington's struggles in directing the Jets’ stagnant offense, we hear head coach Eric Mangini feels he can’t afford to make a QB change just yet. For starters, he fears that opting for the stronger-armed Kellen Clemens would be viewed as throwing in the towel on the season, something he’s not ready to do at 1-4. More importantly, he can ill-afford to further cripple his already strained relationship with the team. Mangini’s authoritarian coaching style is detested by his players, and benching the well-liked Pennington would be seen as a supreme lack of loyalty. However, insiders tell us that if offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer lobbied for Clemens, he’d likely be successful. And as Schottenheimer has gone from prospective head-coaching candidate to incompetent assistant in the span of five weeks, he may be willing to do just that. In such a scenario, Mangini could save face by saying it was Schottenheimer’s decision, and Schottenheimer doesn’t risk undermining his rapport with players because they don’t have a personal problem with him. But if Pennington remains the starter and the losses continue to mount, it appears to be a foregone conclusion that Clemens will take over QB duties sometime before the end of the season. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm Here's another rumor for you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Manpussy. PFT is crap but they are probably right on this one. I've been slamming Mangini for awhile now, and obviously I am at odds with the Penningfluffer brigade. Who the **** is going to make that QB decision if not Manpussy? It's certainly not Chad's job to take himself out. I wouldn't do that if I was in his situation, and I certainly wouldn't expect anyone else too either. If I was Chad I'd be sure I'd do better the next game and really turn it around, I don't doubt myself and expect myself to come through. I know Chad feels the same way. But Mangini is NOT an athlete and he isn't directly competing. His JOB is to make those decisions, the players job is to play as hard as they can. Chad is playing as hard as he can, but he just can't cut it. So it's on Mangini to do something about it. Chad does not get a pass for his play, but he does not deserve criticism for still being the starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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