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I would like to see everyone's top five players at each position. Here is mine:

C

1.Josh Gibson

2.Johnny Bench

3.Mike Piazza

4.Yogi Berra

5.Biz Makey

1B

1.Lou Gehrig

2.Jimmie Foxx

3.George Sisler

4.Hank Greenberg

5.Cap Anson

2B

1.Rogers Hornsby

2.Eddie Collins

3.Nap Lajoie

4.Charlie Gehringer

5.Joe Morgan (still very over-rated)

3B

1.Wade Boggs

2.Pie Traynor

3.Mike Schmidt

4.Ron Santo

5.John McGrew

SS

1.Honus Wagner

2.Pops Lloyd

3.Alex Rodriguez

4.Ozzie Smith

5.Ernie Banks

LF

1.Ted Williams

2.Joe Jackson (would be #1 if it werent for short career)

3.Oscar Charleston (Ive seen him listed as both LF and CF)

4.Stan Musial

5.Barry Bonds*

CF

1.Ty Cobb

2.Willie Mays

3 Joe Dimaggio (many people claim he was the best player ever, but i'd pick Cobb and Mays over him)

4.Tris Speaker

5.Mickey Mantle

RF

1.Babe Ruth

2.Hank Aaron

3.Tony Gwynn

4.Mel Ott

5.Manny Ramirez

P

1.Walter Johnson

2.Roger Clemens (gaining ground)

3.Pedro Martinez

4.Satchell Paige

5.Christy Mathewson

RP

1.Rivera

2.Wilhelm

3.Eckersly

4.Gagne

5.Franco

Guys I almost listed: Yazstremski, Torriente, Maddux, Grove, Sosa*, Bullet Joe Rogan, Cy Young etc.

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In all honesty, I don't know how you can list people you've never seen. But, that's just me though...

In no particular order... just in the order I can think of them.

Catcher

1. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez

2. Jorge Posada

3. Mike Piazza

4. Carlton Fisk

5. Gary Carter

First Base

1. Albert Pujols

2. Eddie Murray

3. Jeff Bagwell

4. Mark Grace

5. Todd Helton

Second Base

1. Ryan Sandberg

2. Craig Biggio

3. Jeff Kent

4. Lou Whitaker

5.

Shortstop

1. Alan Trammell

2. Ozzie Smith

3. Cal Ripken

4. Robin Yount

5. Derek Jeter

Third Base

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Mike Schmidt

3. Wade Boggs

4. George Brett

5. Mike Lowell

Right Field

1. Dave Winfield

2. Gary Shefield

3. Ichiro Suzuki

4. Shawn Green

5. Moises Alou

Center Field

1. Kirby Puckett

2. Torii Hunter

3. Ken Griffey Jr.

4. Andruw Jones

5. Jim Edmonds

Left Field

1. Garret Anderson

2. Rondell White

3. Manny Ramirez

4. Luis Gonzalez

5. Reggie Sanders

Starting Pitching

1. Randy Johnson

2. Roger Clemens

3. Johan Santana

4. Greg Maddux

5. Pedro Martinez

Relief Pitching

1. Dennis Eckersley

2. Eric Gagne

3. Trevor Hoffman

4. Jason Isringhausen

5. Mariano Rivera

These are, obviously, people I've seen play, either on tv or in person.

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In all honesty, I don't know how you can list people you've never seen. But, that's just me though...

In no particular order... just in the order I can think of them.

Catcher

1. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez

2. Jorge Posada

3. Mike Piazza

4. Carlton Fisk

5. Gary Carter

First Base

1. Albert Pujols

2. Eddie Murray

3. Jeff Bagwell

4. Mark Grace

5. Todd Helton

Second Base

1. Ryan Sandberg

2. Craig Biggio

3. Jeff Kent

4. Lou Whitaker

5.

Shortstop

1. Alan Trammell

2. Ozzie Smith

3. Cal Ripken

4. Robin Yount

5. Derek Jeter

Third Base

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Mike Schmidt

3. Wade Boggs

4. George Brett

5. Mike Lowell

Right Field

1. Dave Winfield

2. Gary Shefield

3. Ichiro Suzuki

4. Shawn Green

5. Moises Alou

Center Field

1. Kirby Puckett

2. Torii Hunter

3. Ken Griffey Jr.

4. Andruw Jones

5. Jim Edmonds

Left Field

1. Garret Anderson

2. Rondell White

3. Manny Ramirez

4. Luis Gonzalez

5. Reggie Sanders

Starting Pitching

1. Randy Johnson

2. Roger Clemens

3. Johan Santana

4. Greg Maddux

5. Pedro Martinez

Relief Pitching

1. Dennis Eckersley

2. Eric Gagne

3. Trevor Hoffman

4. Jason Isringhausen

5. Mariano Rivera

These are, obviously, people I've seen play, either on tv or in person.

can you really tell me that you can't determine whether Dave Winfield is better than Babe Ruth simply because you never saw Babe play? statistics are a huge part of MLB history, along with stories, and I'd say thats enough to be able to judge the past with the future

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I WILL NOT put any known or strongly suspected Juicers in my TOP 5 ... I refuse to do it

I may place them in my "Just Missed" category, but I WILL NOT put them in my TOP 5

C

1. Josh Gibson

2. Yogi Berra

3. Bill Dickey

4. Johnny Bench

5. Mickey Cochrane

Just Missed: Pudge Rodriguez and Mike Piazza

1B

1. Lou Gehrig

2. Jimmie Foxx

3. Eddie Murray

4. Hank Greenberg

5. Bill Terry

Just Missed: George Sisler, Johnny Mize and Willie McCovey

2B

1. Rogers Hornsby

2. Eddie Collins

3. Charlie Gehringer

4. Rod Carew

5. Tony Lazzeri

Just Missed: Jackie Robinson and Pops Lloyd

3B

1. George Brett

2. Mike Schmidt

3. Eddie Mathews

4. Pie Traynor

5. Brooks Robinson {has to be a place for jaw-dropping defense}

Just Missed: Wade Boggs and George Kell

SS

1. Alex Rodriguez

2. Honus Wagner

3. Ernie Banks

4. Luke Appling

5. Ozzie Smith {has to be a place for jaw-dropping defense}

Just Missed: Joe Cronin and Cal Ripkin Jr.

LF

1. Ted Williams

2. Stan Musial

3. Al Simmons

4. Joe Jackson

5. Manny Ramirez

Just Missed: Barry Bonds, Willie Stargell, Joe Medwick, YAZ and Billy Williams

CF

1. Ty Cobb

2. Mickey Mantle

3. Joe Dimaggio

4. Willie Mays

5. Ken Griffey Jr.

Just Missed: Tris Speaker, Hack Wilson, Duke Snider and Cool Papa Bell

RF

1. Babe Ruth

2. Hank Aaron

3. Mel Ott

4. Frank Robinson

5. Roberto Clemente

Just Missed: Tony Gwynn, Al Kaline and Reggie Jackson

P

1. Walter Johnson

2. Christy Mathewson

3. Grover Cleveland Alexander

4. Roger Clemens

5. Sandy Koufax

Just Missed: Cy Young, Bob Feller, Warren Spahn, Pedro Martinez and Bob Gibson

RP

1. Mariano Rivera

2. Dennis Eckersly

3. Goose Gossage

4. Rollie Fingers

5. Lee Smith

Just Missed: Trevor Hoffman, Dan Quisenberry, Sparky Lyle and Eric Gagne

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can you really tell me that you can't determine whether Dave Winfield is better than Babe Ruth simply because you never saw Babe play? statistics are a huge part of MLB history, along with stories, and I'd say thats enough to be able to judge the past with the future

I'm not going to put Babe in any of the lists that I call "Of players I've seen play, live or on tv" champ. Cause, clearly, I'm not old enough to have seen Babe play. My dad isn't old enough to have seen Babe play. Hell, my grandfather isn't old enough to remember seeing Babe play. That's three generations removed.

Is Babe one of the top five players of all time, reguardless of position? Duh, of course. But he's not anywhere near any of my top five lists of people that I've seen play.

I shoulda clarified with players I've seen in my lifetime...

Anyway, due note I didn't have Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, or any other all time great in there.

and Ozzie Smith is overrated... Tram was a far better shortstop. Dude was screwed out of two MVP's. Yes, I'm still bitter over that.

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I'm not going to put Babe in any of the lists that I call "Of players I've seen play, live or on tv" champ. Cause, clearly, I'm not old enough to have seen Babe play. My dad isn't old enough to have seen Babe play. Hell, my grandfather isn't old enough to remember seeing Babe play. That's three generations removed.

Is Babe one of the top five players of all time, reguardless of position? Duh, of course. But he's not anywhere near any of my top five lists of people that I've seen play.

I shoulda clarified with players I've seen in my lifetime...

Anyway, due note I didn't have Lou Gehrig, Ty Cobb, or any other all time great in there.

and Ozzie Smith is overrated... Tram was a far better shortstop. Dude was screwed out of two MVP's. Yes, I'm still bitter over that.

Even though statistics tell no better a story about a player's worth in baseball over any other sport, I agree with storm here.

Babe Ruth is obviously a legend, but like most legends, the stories about them become warped and distorted over time. There is no way to tell how great he was without seeing him play.

And if you want to base it on statistics, well all you have to do is look 'em up, and where's the fun in that?

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