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I keep getting this error (or something like it) on my XP home PC, and it simply will not boot up. It won't even boot in safe mode.

Any way to get this thing running so I can at least backup the data I have on there before attempting a system restore? Or am I totally ****ed?

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Take Jetman's advice.

Otherwise, check out www.apple.com.

I'm seriously thinking about this. I use my home PC's for nothing but internet and light word processing, and they always get f'd up. This is the third PC I've had in three years. And no, I'm not buying some used clone from the local guy up the street. I've purchased new IBM's, HP's, and now Dell, and they've all **** the bed on me in roughly one year. And no, I'm not hitting bad porn or other sites that are loaded with spyware and viruses. I have Symantec Corporate anti-virus installed, and AdAware SE installed for spyware. In other words, I take the normal precautions.

On the other hand, I've had my Dell work laptop for over three years and have never had a problem with it. And I use it 10 times more than my home PC.

So I don't know why my home PC keeps f'ing up.

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I'm seriously thinking about this. I use my home PC's for nothing but internet and light word processing, and they always get f'd up. This is the third PC I've had in three years. And no, I'm not buying some used clone from the local guy up the street. I've purchased new IBM's, HP's, and now Dell, and they've all **** the bed on me in roughly one year. And no, I'm not hitting bad porn or other sites that are loaded with spyware and viruses. I have Symantec Corporate anti-virus installed, and AdAware SE installed for spyware. In other words, I take the normal precautions.

On the other hand, I've had my Dell work laptop for over three years and have never had a problem with it. And I use it 10 times more than my home PC.

So I don't know why my home PC keeps f'ing up.

I have had 3 Compaq's in 10 years, all are still running perfectly with little or no problems...

I also have an HP laptop that runs perfect.

Its important to maintain them properly... thats all...

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If you have a windows XP CD boot to the CD rom and try doing a repair installation. It may repair or replace that .dll

Will this erase any data on my HD? I haven't backed up in quite a while and have lots of pics of my kid that i don't want to lose.

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Will this erase any data on my HD? I haven't backed up in quite a while and have lots of pics of my kid that i don't want to lose.

How long ago did you buy the PC?

Also if your worried about it erasing the HD... take it to geek squad or something and have them do it... tell them to take out your HD first and back up all the files through a working PC...

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I have had 3 Compaq's in 10 years, all are still running perfectly with little or no problems...

I also have an HP laptop that runs perfect.

Its important to maintain them properly... thats all...

But that's the thing; I do take care of them properly.....I think. MSFT automatic updates, weekly AV and spyware updates and scans, defragment the disk every now and again if it needs it.

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Will this erase any data on my HD? I haven't backed up in quite a while and have lots of pics of my kid that i don't want to lose.

No, it wont delete your data it will/maybe repair your windows, thats all. You can always buy a new HDD, perform a fresh install of Windows then buy one of those IDE(or ATA)/USB adapters that will connect your old HDD to your PC and retrieve the data.

But the problem here isnt your HDD, its your operating system.

This is why people every once in a while should always run the file and settings transfer wizard to create a clone of their operating system. So if your OS or HDD ever go bad you can run that image file on a new install of Windows and it will restore your data and most of your windows operating sytem settings including your Internet Explorer and Outlook settings. The only thing you will have to do from there is reinstall your applications.

The Windows Backup utility would work too.

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But that's the thing; I do take care of them properly.....I think. MSFT automatic updates, weekly AV and spyware updates and scans, defragment the disk every now and again if it needs it.

Could have been some software you used and un-installed that removed the .dll

Either way... it sucks... and I feel bad for you...

I would invest $40 into a 2gb USB flash drive... keep it plugged into your PC always if you want... and just store all of your pictures on that...

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How long ago did you buy the PC?

Also if your worried about it erasing the HD... take it to geek squad or something and have them do it... tell them to take out your HD first and back up all the files through a working PC...

It's a little over a year old. Dell, 2GB RAM, 30GB HD, Verizon DSL for ISP. Nothing spectacular, but enough for what I use it for.

I have a portable HD to back-up data, just haven't used it in a while. That's my own fault. I'd like to try to solve the problem myself without having to pay someone to do it.

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It's a little over a year old. Dell, 2GB RAM, 30GB HD, Verizon DSL for ISP. Nothing spectacular, but enough for what I use it for.

I have a portable HD to back-up data, just haven't used it in a while. That's my own fault. I'd like to try to solve the problem myself without having to pay someone to do it.

Yeah your best bet is to try and repair it... with the XP disc...

DO you still have one of your old PC's?

Get a HDD case for making internal drives, external (I think these exist) and hook it up to your working PC... back it up... and then put it back in your old PC and try everything... since it wont matter if you wipe it clean...

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But that's the thing; I do take care of them properly.....I think. MSFT automatic updates, weekly AV and spyware updates and scans, defragment the disk every now and again if it needs it.

Really, its the luck of the draw sometimes. I bought a PC once, took good care of it and the HDD died within a year. Other PCs I have purchased have gone years without a single issue.

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No, it wont delete your data it will repair your windows, thats all. You can always buy a new HDD, perform a fresh install of Windows then buy one of those IDE(or ATA)/USB adapters that will connect your old HDD to your PC and retrieve the data.

But the problem here isnt your HDD, its your operating system.

Thanks, JM. That's what I'm going to do.

I was under the assumption it was my HD. Are you saying that XP is the problem?

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Thanks, JM. That's what I'm going to do.

I was under the assumption it was my HD. Are you saying that XP is the problem?

Im pretty sure your HD is totally fine, you just cant boot to windows, hence you cant get to your data. There is a corrupt windows file that is preventing you from doing this.

I work in I.T. so took an interest to your problem. This link can help you. I would try method 2 or 3 first.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314477

Good Luck.

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Im pretty sure your HD is totally fine, you just cant boot to windows, hence you cant get to your data. There is a corrupt windows file that is preventing you from doing this.

I work in I.T. so took an interest to your problem. This link can help you. I would try method 2 or 3 first.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314477

Good Luck.

Thanks again. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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I have had 3 Compaq's in 10 years, all are still running perfectly with little or no problems...

I also have an HP laptop that runs perfect.

Its important to maintain them properly... thats all...

I call bull###t dude, by "maintain them properly" do you mean having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? Because I think maintaining means different things for pc and mac users, lol. Maintaining for a mac user means maybe dusting the tower case off every few months, hahahahaha

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I call bull###t dude, by "maintain them properly" do you mean having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? Because I think maintaining means different things for pc and mac users, lol. Maintaining for a mac user means maybe dusting the tower case off every few months, hahahahaha

Seriously... no issues... thats why I keep buying Compaq's and now HP's as well..

Love em... never had a problem... thats why I have no desire to switch,...

My GF's HP laptop has been flawless as well.. and she doesnt keep up with anything on it.. lol

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Seriously... no issues... thats why I keep buying Compaq's and now HP's as well..

Love em... never had a problem... thats why I have no desire to switch,...

My GF's HP laptop has been flawless as well.. and she doesnt keep up with anything on it.. lol

dude, i know in other threads here you have mentioned about having to reinstall windows a few times. And you mean to tell me you don't do any of that stuff i mentioned, having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? If you say no then congrats, you are the first person ever to have figured out how to run windows completely problem free, you should write a book!

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But that's the thing; I do take care of them properly.....I think. MSFT automatic updates, weekly AV and spyware updates and scans, defragment the disk every now and again if it needs it.

O yea, Defrag is one big waste of time on Windows XP. It was helpful with earlier MS OS's but there is no need to use it on XP on a consistent basis. Maybe once every few years if you want. But other than that XP does a good job itself of not trying to make your drive very fragmented and a fragmented disc on XP wont effect performance as much as it did on earlier OS'

To boost HD performance run the disc clean up, error checking, make sure the indexing service is enabled and dont keep a lot of applications or files that you really dont need. And if you need a lot of files compress the ones that you need, but wont have to access very often.

But dont even worry about defragging anymore.

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dude, i know in other threads here you have mentioned about having to reinstall windows a few times. And you mean to tell me you don't do any of that stuff i mentioned, having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? If you say no then congrats, you are the first person ever to have figured out how to run windows completely problem free, you should write a book!

I have only re-installed windows on my laptop and one desktop... both for upgrades to XP Pro... the only PC I have had to re-install windows for problems is one I built from scratch myself... what a mistake that was... lol

My virus and anti spyware download and scan automatically... windows update works in the background and I need to restart maybe once or twice a month... never had to re-install drivers...

I seriously have had next to no problems at all... my biggest issue was a faulty 56k modem in 1999 on my first Compaq... and recently the only thing was a faulty DVD drive in my lap top (and they next day aired me a new one, free)

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LOL!

MY work pc had a bad monitor (the power button stopped working)..so dell sends a new one today and I get a blue screen with the exact same error you have..they made me turn the computer on with no monitor, how do you turn it off? the power button..

I have an XP disk from 2003 and have been doing diagnostics on it in safe mode the past 3 hours..it's almost done..so i'll find out if it's fixed or I have to reinstall XP..

BTW..I'm on my Macbook now..:lol:

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I call bull###t dude, by "maintain them properly" do you mean having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? Because I think maintaining means different things for pc and mac users, lol. Maintaining for a mac user means maybe dusting the tower case off every few months, hahahahaha

And I'm calling bull**** right back. I never do any of that stuff, except run anti-virus software, and my PCs work fine.

Stop making **** up to promote your inferior platform.

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I call bull###t dude, by "maintain them properly" do you mean having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? Because I think maintaining means different things for pc and mac users, lol. Maintaining for a mac user means maybe dusting the tower case off every few months, hahahahaha

Blah blah blah.

You know how many viruses I have gotten on my PC in all the years I have had one? NONE. You know how many virus protection programs I have used? None. How many times have I had to reinstall Windows on my PC? One but only because I short circuited everything because of my short lived fascination with a USB port several years ago.

That's right -- I go bareback baby.

Spare me with this PC is crap thing. You can like the MAC that is fine. But I swear you guys are like a cult. You guys are like Ecurb with the Playstation. That is how you sound.

Why do Mac users care about Apple's bottom line? You guys sport wood when the earnings reports come out. It cracks me up. As a Windows user I was never like, YES there goes another Billion for Big Bill.

I love my MP3 player. No encryption and it cost me $20. Memorex baby. But hey it isn't white like an ipod. I am such a loser I guess, lol.

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LOL!

MY work pc had a bad monitor (the power button stopped working)..so dell sends a new one today and I get a blue screen with the exact same error you have..they made me turn the computer on with no monitor, how do you turn it off? the power button..

I have an XP disk from 2003 and have been doing diagnostics on it in safe mode the past 3 hours..it's almost done..so i'll find out if it's fixed or I have to reinstall XP..

BTW..I'm on my Macbook now..:lol:

I consider myself very resourceful, everything is AOK now!

It took 3 hours for windows to fix itself..if you can find an XP disk start your CP up and tap the F12 button until you get in safe mode..then you put the disk in and select DVD or cd drive in Dos and hit enter..after that windows goes to work and you'll wind up back in dos, and you'll have to type in chkdk and hit enter..when that is done you type in exit and windows will either boot up, or you'll have a blue screen..which means you'll have to reinstall XP.

Good luck!

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Blah blah blah.

You know how many viruses I have gotten on my PC in all the years I have had one? NONE. You know how many virus protection programs I have used? None. How many times have I had to reinstall Windows on my PC? One but only because I short circuited everything because of my short lived fascination with a USB port several years ago.

That's right -- I go bareback baby.

Spare me with this PC is crap thing. You can like the MAC that is fine. But I swear you guys are like a cult. You guys are like Ecurb with the Playstation. That is how you sound.

Why do Mac users care about Apple's bottom line? You guys sport wood when the earnings reports come out. It cracks me up. As a Windows user I was never like, YES there goes another Billion for Big Bill.

I love my MP3 player. No encryption and it cost me $20. Memorex baby. But hey it isn't white like an ipod. I am such a loser I guess, lol.

LOL

Good job Max!

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dude, i know in other threads here you have mentioned about having to reinstall windows a few times. And you mean to tell me you don't do any of that stuff i mentioned, having to reinstall system software once in a while, installing and updating virus and spyware software regularly, and reinstalling drivers from time to time and having to scan and check everything you download? If you say no then congrats, you are the first person ever to have figured out how to run windows completely problem free, you should write a book!

I call nonsense. I have a laptop with Vista. I have not had any problems at all. My prior comps motherboard fried, but not due to Windows XP. That one lasted 4 years. The one before that lasted me 4 years and has been with my father in law now for the last 4, total of 8 problem free. I always use AVG free antivirus. Have never had a virus, nor have I had comp issues.

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I call nonsense. I have a laptop with Vista. I have not had any problems at all. My prior comps motherboard fried, but not due to Windows XP. That one lasted 4 years. The one before that lasted me 4 years and has been with my father in law now for the last 4, total of 8 problem free. I always use AVG free antivirus. Have never had a virus, nor have I had comp issues.

Its the same reason people bash the PS3 (sony) and praise the Xbox (Msoft) so much... everyone always likes to pick on the leader of the category... its just the way it works...

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Its the same reason people bash the PS3 (sony) and praise the Xbox (Msoft) so much... everyone always likes to pick on the leader of the category... its just the way it works...

That isn't true. I don't see any hatred directed at Nintendo.

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Well, after wasting an entire Friday night trying to repair through the Repair Console (which looked like it was working at first, then after 30 minutes said it couldn't continue because of some corrupt file), then attempting a complete system recovery with the recovery discs (which didn't work either because of some kind of partition error, whatever the **** that means), I threw the mother ****er out my home office window. :headbang: Felt much better after that. Now I have to go replace some decking. :character0036:

So yesteday, I bought a new one. I took ecurb's advice and got me a Compaq/HP Presario: Celeron 420 1.6GHz processor, 1GB RAM, 120GB HDD, DVD/CD burner, Vista Home Premium. Price (not including monitor) was $399, plus a $50 mail-in rebate. Pretty good for $350, I think. Plus I got $50 off an $89 four-in-one HP deskjet. The PC's nothing great, but perfect for what we use it for at home.

So that's that. Thanks everyone for trying to walk this neophyte through repair solutions. Hopefully I'll have better luck with this one.

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