Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Too many other priorities. I doubt we just eat the trade and contract we invested in Jones to draft a RB. I doubt we do it too, but we F'ing should!!! McFadden could be an absolute stud in this league, we know what we have in Jones, and that is a guy who is average at best. There are a lot of priorities, but with a 31 yr old RB it's only a matter of time before it become the main priority. We should draft McFadden and build the offence around him. I don't see us ever becoming an elite team if we keep drafting need over BAP. The Vikings invested a **** load into Chester Taylor, think they regret drafting AP???? We can't afford to pass on this guy IMO, we just cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I doubt we do it too, but we F'ing should!!! McFadden could be an absolute stud in this league, we know what we have in Jones, and that is a guy who is average at best. There are a lot of priorities, but with a 31 yr old RB it's only a matter of time before it become the main priority. We should draft McFadden and build the offence around him. I don't see us ever becoming an elite team if we keep drafting need over BAP. The Vikings invested a **** load into Chester Taylor, think they regret drafting AP???? We can't afford to pass on this guy IMO, we just cannot. We'll see. I wouldn't mind it but doubt thats the direction we go in. BTW Jones is 29.....I hate when years are added to a players age to support a opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Oh by the way he's 6'5" 220 If draft history over the past decade has shown us anything it's this: don't waste a high DP on a WR-trade for Chad Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 We'll see. I wouldn't mind it but doubt thats the direction we go in. BTW Jones is 29.....I hate when years are added to a players age to support a opinion. My bad on Jones, I actually did think he was 30. The fact still remains that is very old for a RB, it is a young players position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I doubt we do it too, but we F'ing should!!! McFadden could be an absolute stud in this league, we know what we have in Jones, and that is a guy who is average at best. There are a lot of priorities, but with a 31 yr old RB it's only a matter of time before it become the main priority. We should draft McFadden and build the offence around him. I don't see us ever becoming an elite team if we keep drafting need over BAP. The Vikings invested a **** load into Chester Taylor, think they regret drafting AP???? We can't afford to pass on this guy IMO, we just cannot. Totally agree with you here. It seems like the ultimate need vs. BPA argument. But honestly, I still consider RB a need. Not as badly as a pass-rusher, a big NT, a number one WR, a DE, and 2 O-linemen, but it's still a need. Thomas Jones is and always has been average and I do love Leon, but I don't think he can be much more than an average starting NFL running back. Having a RB like McFadden will do wonders for this team. It will give them a true playmaker and take a lot of the pressure off Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 There's nothing wrong with wanting a new contract when you have played as well as he has and given as much as he has for the Steelers over the years. I'd be pretty pissed too. Madden said it during a SNF game vs the Bengals, that pittsburgh were crazy not to give this guy a new deal. If we do give him a big contract, then I'm sure he wont complain, before this incident he had done nothing that could be considered 'bad charachter'. Neither did Kendall. The Jets were crazy not to give him a new deal. In the NFL wanting more money = bad character. Check if Faneca is the Steelers union rep. If he is, I guarantee 100% the Jets will not sign him. We are kind of talking about two different things, should and will. IMO, we won't really know if they should until we see the money, years and what else is out there. I'm not sure about McFadden yet, but if he's the best available I have no problem taking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Neither did Kendall. The Jets were crazy not to give him a new deal. In the NFL wanting more money = bad character. Check if Faneca is the Steelers union rep. If he is, I guarantee 100% the Jets will not sign him. We are kind of talking about two different things, should and will. IMO, we won't really know if they should until we see the money, years and what else is out there. I'm not sure about McFadden yet, but if he's the best available I have no problem taking him. I don't agree with the 'wanting more money = bad charachter' at all. Every player wants more money to an extent, that doesn't mean they have a bad personality. He has played an elite level for that team and given his all for 10 years, then he see the likes of Leonard Davis, a guy with no-where near the value of Faneca, get a huge contract while The Steelers aren't prepared to offer anything. That must be pretty tough and TBh I can't blame him for being unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjam76 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Yeah players can be greedy and sometimes look like they are only out for the money. But the problem is, anybody that disses a player cause they ask for more money, is just jealous. If you diss a fellow co-worker cause he asks for a raise, your the a-hole, not the guy asking for a raise. If you want more money, go ask for it or go find another job or get a better education and/or job. I don't get people getting pissed at players asking for more money. Yeah sometimes they do get greedy and sometimes they don't seem to deserve it, but at the end of the day, the Jets FO and Mangini look like idiots in the Kendall fiasco. The Jets have one of the worst OL in the NFL this season.. Yeah I guess they didn't need Kendall. And I guess he didn't deserve that 1 million bucks. Maybe he didn't, but then again, did Bender, Clarke, Smith and everybody else deserve to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Yeah players can be greedy and sometimes look like they are only out for the money. But the problem is, anybody that disses a player cause they ask for more money, is just jealous. If you diss a fellow co-worker cause he asks for a raise, your the a-hole, not the guy asking for a raise. If you want more money, go ask for it or go find another job or get a better education and/or job. I don't get people getting pissed at players asking for more money. Yeah sometimes they do get greedy and sometimes they don't seem to deserve it, but at the end of the day, the Jets FO and Mangini look like idiots in the Kendall fiasco. The Jets have one of the worst OL in the NFL this season.. Yeah I guess they didn't need Kendall. And I guess he didn't deserve that 1 million bucks. Maybe he didn't, but then again, did Bender, Clarke, Smith and everybody else deserve to start? Exactly, wanting well desrved money isn't bad charchter. The Guy's just looking for the best deal he can get, he has every right to do that. If we gave him a long term deal that will not become an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Trade: Vilma, McCareins and Pennington all for seven first round picks each. Draft: McFadden Long Groves Brohm Woodson Laurinitus Dorsey Ryan Long Etc. Sign: Samuel Gay Izzo Every other single FA Patriot Faneca Lilja Berrian B.Johnson Hackett Dude, we'd so kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Trade: Vilma, McCareins and Pennington all for seven first round picks each. Draft: McFadden Long Groves Brohm Woodson Laurinitus Dorsey Ryan Long Etc. Sign: Samuel Gay Izzo Every other single FA Patriot Faneca Lilja Berrian B.Johnson Hackett Dude, we'd so kick ass. What point are you trying to get accross posting this, his off-season is pretty realistic whether it's for good or for bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We should sign Faneca and still draft another RT in the second round or beyond with multiple options like Oher, Ryan Clady of Boise State, Chris Williams of Vandy, or even Jeff Otah from Pitt who can play tackle or guard in the NFL most likely. Signing Faneca will give us a presence at guard that, along with D'Brick and Mangold, could anchor the line for the next 5-6 years. At the same time, it allows the Jets to not have to handcuff themselves in the draft and HAVE to draft two offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 We should sign Faneca and still draft another RT in the second round or beyond with multiple options like Oher, Ryan Clady of Boise State, Chris Williams of Vandy, or even Jeff Otah from Pitt who can play tackle or guard in the NFL most likely. Signing Faneca will give us a presence at guard that, along with D'Brick and Mangold, could anchor the line for the next 5-6 years. At the same time, it allows the Jets to not have to handcuff themselves in the draft and HAVE to draft two offensive linemen. Excellent post. I think Clady will be long gone (2nd OL taken) but, Oher is an interesting prospect. This is from Draft Dog "Oher is a special talent not because of his proto type size, or even his mean streak, it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Watched and still not looking to pay that guy big money. Those were highlights and I'm not blown away. There was one nice pulling play, but Davenport didn't even follow him into the hole. He held his own, but I didn't see him blasting anybody downfield. I do not see dominance. There are a few plays, not sure if any are in the clip, where he just stands around when the play breaks. He's a nice player, but I think it would be a mistake to give him a giant long term contract. IMO, there will be other options. QFT. I'd rather sign Andrews at RT and draft a younger, less expensive, and less whiny player...or sign Smiley. If he's unhappy in Pittsburgh, joining a rebuilding team can't be on the top of his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 QFT. I'd rather sign Andrews at RT and draft a younger, less expensive, and less whiny player...or sign Smiley. If he's unhappy in Pittsburgh, joining a rebuilding team can't be on the top of his list. I've pointed out why he's unhappy. He wants a long term deal which he's not being offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Exactly, wanting well desrved money isn't bad charchter. The Guy's just looking for the best deal he can get, he has every right to do that. If we gave him a long term deal that will not become an issue. 1. You are blaming me for something that I don't really agree with. I agree that wanting more money might not be bad character, but that is what it equates to for most NFL FOs. 2. Faneca had a contract he signed and he wasn't happy with it, he was crying about wanting a better long term deal. He wasn't just looking for the best deal, he was blabbing to the press and hinting that he might hold out when he had already signed a contract for the 2007 season. I'm pretty sure that he was skipping practices at the start of Steelers camp. You even said he played worse because he "wasn't happy". Why was that "bad character" for Kendall and not Faneca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I've pointed out why he's unhappy. He wants a long term deal which he's not being offered. Cool, I don't think he's played like he deserves one and neither does one of the smartest franchises in the NFL. Not only is there a reason why he's not getting paid, but even if there isn't...whining about a contract you agreed to doesn't really make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman88 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 2. Faneca had a contract he signed and he wasn't happy with it, he was crying about wanting a better long term deal. He wasn't just looking for the best deal, he was blabbing to the press and hinting that he might hold out when he had already signed a contract for the 2007 season. I'm pretty sure that he was skipping practices at the start of Steelers camp. You even said he played worse because he "wasn't happy". Why was that "bad character" for Kendall and not Faneca? Isn't it obvious? Kendall did that to the Jets which makes him a douchebag. If a player does it to another team theres no problems especially if the Jets can possibly get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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