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I've been in business for myself for 23 years come next July...8 of those years have been on the Internet. I learned early on in my first year never to accept credit card payments from several countries. They are notorious for credit card theft. A few of the countries to stay away from are Nigeria, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. Below is an Internet order I received earlier in the day...notice it is from Indonesia. Right away I reported it to Master Card since that was the issuing agency and sure enough it is stolen...the card belongs to someone in the states.

Again, I'm just giving a heads up to any new people in business that have decided to accept credit cards over the Internet...beware, there are crooks a plenty out there.

Customer: Pungky Indra Nurmasari

Jl.Banjaransari No.6A

Kembaran Kulon, 53319

Purbalingga, Indonesia

Telephone Number: 6285643988885

E-Mail Address: sales@kamar-mandi.com

Shipping Address: Pungky Indra Nurmasari

Jl.Banjaransari No.6A

Kembaran Kulon, 53319

Purbalingga, Indonesia

Billing Address: Pungky Indra Nurmasari

Jl.Banjaransari No.6A

Kembaran Kulon, 53319

Purbalingga, Indonesia

Payment Method: Credit Card

Credit Card Type: Master Card

Credit Card Owner: Pungky Indra Nurmasari

Credit Card Number: 5474XXXXXXXX8877

Credit Card Expires: 0310

Products Model Tax Price (ex) Price (inc) Total (ex) Total (inc)

5 x Vietnam Memorial Wall Zippo Lighters Z-20137 0.00% $27.99 $27.99 $139.95 $139.95

5 x US Navy Crest Zippo Lighters Z-20874 0.00% $34.95 $34.95 $174.75 $174.75

5 x US Marines Crest Zippo Lighters Z-20875 0.00% $34.99 $34.99 $174.95 $174.95

5 x US Air Force Crest Zippo Lighters Z-20877 0.00% $34.99 $34.99 $174.95 $174.95

5 x Red Zippo Lighters ZK233 0.00% $21.99 $21.99 $109.95 $109.95

5 x Patriotic Zippo Lighters Z-20895 0.00% $34.99 $34.99 $174.95 $174.95

5 x Humvee Mission Zippo Lighters Z-20935 0.00% $29.99 $29.99 $149.95 $149.95

5 x Harley Ghost Zippo Lighters Z-20711 0.00% $34.99 $34.99 $174.95 $174.95

5 x Freedom Watch Zippo Lighters Z-24082 0.00% $32.99 $32.99 $164.95 $164.95

5 x Face of Liberty Zippo Lighters Z-21074 0.00% $34.99 $34.99 $174.95 $174.95

Sub-Total: $1,614.30

Flat Rate (Best Way): $4.95

Total: $1,619.25

Edit...mods please move this to the lounge...my mistake.

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the messed up thing is, when you called your processor, had that card not yet been reported stolen you probably would have gotten an approval, then some time later when it was found out that the charge was fraudulent you would have been on the hook for the charge, even though you called it in and got an approval. It sucks but it is the cost of doing business i guess. We just flat out refuse orders now from any of the countries with bad reps for fraud.

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the messed up thing is, when you called your processor, had that card not yet been reported stolen you probably would have gotten an approval, then some time later when it was found out that the charge was fraudulent you would have been on the hook for the charge, even though you called it in and got an approval. It sucks but it is the cost of doing business i guess. We just flat out refuse orders now from any of the countries with bad reps for fraud.

The moral? If people were honest, porn would be much cheaper.

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the messed up thing is, when you called your processor, had that card not yet been reported stolen you probably would have gotten an approval, then some time later when it was found out that the charge was fraudulent you would have been on the hook for the charge, even though you called it in and got an approval. It sucks but it is the cost of doing business i guess. We just flat out refuse orders now from any of the countries with bad reps for fraud.

No Joe. I didn't call it in to get approval. I reported it being stolen. I knew the card was fraudulent being that it was a purchase out of Indonesia...I accept no CC's from several countries automatically.

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