jetsrule128 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Santana and the metzzz, eat your heart out, Kobe24!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Excellent job by Minaya, he was able to get Santana in spite of having made the 4th best offer for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Because everyone knows the smart thing to do is to judge a pitcher on 5.2 innings of work. Fair point. 4 career post season starts, the pitcher that usually give up few hits has given up 28 hits and a 7.58 ERA over those 4 career starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMan57 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 The Twins have a solid track record on picking the right prospects in past deals. Cashmans's job (right or wrong) is on the line for not grabbing Johan. Hank will place all the blame for not getting a deal done on Cashman if Hughes and the Yanks falter this season. Its universally agreed upon scouts around the league that the Mets pretty much gave up a bag of shells. The Twins got desperate, they knew the Yanks or Sox were just keeping Johan away from eachother, they both didnt want to give up their prized prospects and with Santana threatening not to waive his no trade clause in-season the TWins were forced to get rid of him for the next best thing before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fair point. 4 career post season starts, the pitcher that usually give up few hits has given up 28 hits and a 7.58 ERA over those 4 career starts. With the Mets depending on geriatrics like the Hernandez brothers and Martinez for 3/5s of their rotation, the postseason won't be much of a concern, no matter how good Santana is. Santana and Maine, and pray for a hurricane? Their bullpen is going to be run ragged after picking up the phone every 5th inning 3 days out of 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Mart28 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 With the Mets depending on geriatrics like the Hernandez brothers and Martinez for 3/5s of their rotation, the postseason won't be much of a concern, no matter how good Santana is. Santana and Maine, and pray for a hurricane? Their bullpen is going to be run ragged after picking up the phone every 5th inning 3 days out of 5. the mets rotation will be santana pedro maine ollie hernandez i dont think the bullpen is as strong as it could be but considering 3/5 of the rotation are under 30, they should be in good shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Don't underestimate Melky's defensive skills...the kid can throw. He's had 26 assists the past two years and that's part-time. Not easy to replace those numbers. Coco Crisp who the Sox were trying to dump in the trade (and in my opinion is a joke) has had 24 assists in his entire career. I'm tired of hearing about Melky's defensive stats. Listen, I love Melky, he's a nice player, but he's nothing great and he is replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Fair point. 4 career post season starts, the pitcher that usually give up few hits has given up 28 hits and a 7.58 ERA over those 4 career starts. And I can cherry pick four starts in his entire career in which he did worse than that. His ERA and hits total is severely skewed by this year. He did horrendous in two starts this year. In the two starts before that, he had one great start and one decent one. I'm really not worried that because of two bad games this year he's not a "good postseason pitcher." He's proven that he can pitch well in the postseason already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 With the Mets depending on geriatrics like the Hernandez brothers and Martinez for 3/5s of their rotation, the postseason won't be much of a concern, no matter how good Santana is. Santana and Maine, and pray for a hurricane? Their bullpen is going to be run ragged after picking up the phone every 5th inning 3 days out of 5. Define 3/5ths? The Hernandez brothers? Did Keith just sign? Oh, and what of the Yankees? Pettite and Mussina are spring chickens? And we expect them to throw the kids 200 innings? That would be responsible. Hughes and Joba and pray for 'roids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 With the Mets depending on geriatrics like the Hernandez brothers and Martinez for 3/5s of their rotation, the postseason won't be much of a concern, no matter how good Santana is. Santana and Maine, and pray for a hurricane? Their bullpen is going to be run ragged after picking up the phone every 5th inning 3 days out of 5. Define 3/5ths? The Hernandez brothers? Did Keith just sign? Oh, and what of the Yankees? Pettite and Mussina are spring chickens? And we expect them to throw the kids 200 innings? That would be responsible. Hughes and Joba and pray for 'roids? POTW drawn and quartered by SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I'm tired of hearing about Melky's defensive stats. Listen, I love Melky, he's a nice player, but he's nothing great and he is replaceable. Kind of like your boy Nuge........:rl::rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Kind of like your boy Nuge........:rl::rl: Nothing like Nuge. The Nuge is solid gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Define 3/5ths? The Hernandez brothers? Did Keith just sign? Oh, and what of the Yankees? Pettite and Mussina are spring chickens? And we expect them to throw the kids 200 innings? That would be responsible. Hughes and Joba and pray for 'roids? :):):) Thank You. So sick of that tired old negative nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I guess the Mets/ Santana talks are still on going. Nothing new yet. I can't see how this deal doesn't get done. The Mets HAVE the money just get it done already. Deadline is Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm not sure if it is the money that is the issue. From what I have heard on the TV and radio it is the years. I would be shocked if this though doesn't get done. Even if they have to get an extension on the deadline I think it will be done before the end of the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm not sure if it is the money that is the issue. From what I have heard on the TV and radio it is the years. I would be shocked if this though doesn't get done. Even if they have to get an extension on the deadline I think it will be done before the end of the weekend. That would be awesome if the Santana/Mets deal didn't get done due to the contract deadlock. Then the Yankees sweep in and trade Ian Kennedy and Melky for Santana and give him the contract Freddie Coupons didn't want to give him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 That would be awesome if the Santana/Mets deal didn't get done due to the contract deadlock. Then the Yankees sweep in and trade Ian Kennedy and Melky for Santana and give him the contract Freddie Coupons didn't want to give him. I thought the Yankees were better off without Santana and his ridiculous contract? Not saying you said this but I have heard this quite a bit this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 The Mets have a real shot next year. whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Maybe Santana can limit the amount of runs allowed in a playoff deciding game on the last day of the regular season to 5 or 6. There is hope Mess fans! too bad we needed him on the 2nd to last day to save our season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 too bad we needed him on the 2nd to last day to save our season Why they moved him up is beyond me. I get that they needed a win but I'd never move up my ace to pitch the 2nd biggest game of the season instead of the biggest game of the season. Sure some will argue that if the Mets lose that game then Santana's start in the final game wouldn't have mattered, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Why they moved him up is beyond me. I get that they needed a win but I'd never move up my ace to pitch the 2nd biggest game of the season instead of the biggest game of the season. Sure some will argue that if the Mets lose that game then Santana's start in the final game wouldn't have mattered, but you never know. They had to throw Santana Sat. Mets only have 3 reliable starters to finish the season- Santana, Pelfrey, and Perez. Pelfrey pitched friday, so you had Santana and Perez on short rest (Perez pitched Wed, Santana Tues). They couldnt go with Niese or any of the other starters because if they struggled they would have no relievers for sunday if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Santana was the only positive this year with the mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Santana was the only positive this year with the mets. not true. Mets had a great Samba Team and they came in 1st place in the Latin American version of Jeopardy .. I will take 'Different ways to fry a plantain' for 500 Alec.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Santana had to pitch Saturday so Perez could pitch Sunday. Besides, Sunday's game wasn't any more important than Saturday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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