nico002 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 With recent signings and projected prices for this year, DROBs cost all of a sudden doesen't looks so bad. With the addition of Jenkins, an ELLIS/DROB/Pouha/Jenkins/Coleman line gives us great talent and depth. If we can add a pass rusher in the draft (Gholston?) we should have a flat out dominating D on paper. Unless we get outstanding value for DROB, I don't see much point in trading him. Keeping him allows us to keep the line fresh at all times. I might be wrong here, what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Trading DRob frees up the cap room to sign players that aren't mediocre wastes of a draft pick that have never been anything more than average in any defensive system they have played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The point in trading him is that it also clears up over $8M on the 2008 cap alone. $8M that will get a better player than a 6'0 DE who is still not a good fit in the 3-4. If instead, you had $8M of cap space and a mid-round draft pick, you'd trade that away for another year of Robertson who will be a FA after '09 anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets81 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 With recent signings and projected prices for this year, DROBs cost all of a sudden doesen't looks so bad. With the addition of Jenkins, an ELLIS/DROB/Pouha/Jenkins/Coleman line gives us great talent and depth. If we can add a pass rusher in the draft (Gholston?) we should have a flat out dominating D on paper. Unless we get outstanding value for DROB, I don't see much point in trading him. Keeping him allows us to keep the line fresh at all times. I might be wrong here, what are your thoughts? I kinda like the idea of keeping Drob around at DE and maybe spot NT duty, but he HAS to be restructured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 What player would you sign with the money DROB would clear up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I kinda like the idea of keeping Drob around at DE and maybe spot NT duty, but he HAS to be restructured. So you want to give DRob a new signing bonus of over $10M? That's what it will cost to restructure him. And in this market, he'd rather get released b/c he'll get more than that & he knows it. It doesn't save any money; it only puts it off for later years. Years when people will bitch & moan about our inactivity in FA or losing our core players because of a lack of cap space. Accept it: he's gone. They're better off releasing him outright if it means picking up another player. Hell, I'd rather give Faneca $8M of his guaranteed money as ROSTER bonus and free up $8M over the balance of his contract than use it on DRob for '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Keeping D-Rob gives us an incredibly expensive D-Line. You have to get rid of him and get something worthwhile back, especially if we're trading a 3rd rounder for Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Jet1121 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Robertson is a cap killer right now. He needs to be traded to Denver for any pick we get from them i dont care if its a 7th rounder any deal to get rid of Robertson's money and crapie play im all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 With the addition of Jenkins, an ELLIS/DROB/Pouha/Jenkins/Coleman line gives us great talent and depth. When I see that list I'm thinking old. Maybe not in terms of years, but miles. Those guys have a lot of games under their belt. Except Pouha, but he was never young to begin with. All those guys are on the downswing. They are a nice start, but should be supplemented with youth. DRob may be talented enough to try at DE, but I'd rather spend the money elsewhere. Maybe on a real 3-4 lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 When I see that list I'm thinking old. Maybe not in terms of years, but miles. Those guys have a lot of games under their belt. Except Pouha, but he was never young to begin with. All those guys are on the downswing. They are a nice start, but should be supplemented with youth. DRob may be talented enough to try at DE, but I'd rather spend the money elsewhere. Maybe on a real 3-4 lineman. More reason to keep DROB. Hes young, and it allows us to keep these guys fresh and healthy. I just don't see any "legit" 3-4 linemen out there that can give us considerably more production that DROB at that much of a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The point in trading him is that it also clears up over $8M on the 2008 cap alone. $8M that will get a better player than a 6'0 DE who is still not a good fit in the 3-4. If instead, you had $8M of cap space and a mid-round draft pick, you'd trade that away for another year of Robertson who will be a FA after '09 anyway? Can't he restructure his deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I'm sre he can restructure, but the question is do we need him to? I like the idea of keeping him as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Can't he restructure his deal ? Restructuring doesn't save cap space. It only pushes cap hits off for next year & beyond. Years when we'll wish we had the space to sign someone other than DRob. With the amount that's been thrown around (hint-hint: Al Davis) for DT's, he'll demand probably $15M up-front (maybe more; who knows) or he'd tell the Jets to stick it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Restructuring doesn't save cap space. It only pushes cap hits off for next year & beyond. Years when we'll wish we had the space to sign someone other than DRob. With the amount that's been thrown around (hint-hint: Al Davis) for DT's, he'll demand probably $15M up-front (maybe more; who knows) or he'd tell the Jets to stick it. F*** THAT!!! SHIP HIS ASS OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Jet1121 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 F*** THAT!!! SHIP HIS ASS OUT Agree 110 percent he is not worth the trouble anymore. If we get rid of Robertson and Chad we will have enough for Kerry's long term deal and Coles if we pick to keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 More reason to keep DROB. Hes young, and it allows us to keep these guys fresh and healthy. I just don't see any "legit" 3-4 linemen out there that can give us considerably more production that DROB at that much of a discount. Way too much money. Way too much. You can't find a guy that gives similar production for $8-11M per? Look harder. Besides, with Pouha, Jenkins and Mosley that's four guys that are not DEs. Doesn't leave much room for developmental guy, does it? Can't he restructure his deal ? He can, but it's not in any of our best interests. I thought he might take a cut, but there is no reason to do so because teams are offering to trade for him, so if he is cut he will obviously not have to take one. Restructuring would have to include another big bonus and we don't want to give him one and he does not want to stay here. There are plenty of teams running the cover 2. No reason that he should stick around here wasting his time playing out of position. I like Drob. I think he's underrated around here. He kept his mouth shut and busted his ass, now cut him loose, get what you can and make everybody happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Way too much money. Way too much. You can't find a guy that gives similar production for $8-11M per? Look harder. Besides, with Pouha, Jenkins and Mosley that's four guys that are not DEs. Doesn't leave much room for developmental guy, does it? He can, but it's not in any of our best interests. I thought he might take a cut, but there is no reason to do so because teams are offering to trade for him, so if he is cut he will obviously not have to take one. Restructuring would have to include another big bonus and we don't want to give him one and he does not want to stay here. There are plenty of teams running the cover 2. No reason that he should stick around here wasting his time playing out of position. I like Drob. I think he's underrated around here. He kept his mouth shut and busted his ass, now cut him loose, get what you can and make everybody happy. Hopefully we can get at least a 3nd for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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