InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 like 1's at a stripper! Seriously..I can't take another draft with only 4 selections. We have too many needs to be tossing DP's around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 If Kris Jenkins was there in the 3rd round you'd draft him and so would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjetsjetsjets Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 like 1's at a stripper! Seriously..I can't take another draft with only 4 selections. We have too many needs to be tossing DP's around. getting a big bodied dt was well worth the 3rd and 5th pick in t he draft. we could still trade robertson for picks and i have a feeling we will be trading down in the draft and picking up a few more picks anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 like 1's at a stripper! Seriously..I can't take another draft with only 4 selections. We have too many needs to be tossing DP's around. You do realize that by giving up a 3rd and a 5th for Jenkins we are filling our biggest defensive need with a pro bowl caliber top 3 tackle? We would be lucky to get half that production from a 3rd round pick. If getting rid of draft picks immediately fills a huge hole, whats wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 getting a big bodied dt was well worth the 3rd and 5th pick in t he draft. we could still trade robertson for picks and i have a feeling we will be trading down in the draft and picking up a few more picks anyways. Agreed. We needed him. It filled a nice hole for us. This isn't the only trade we are making, so we will be getting more picks, and if we don't and we end up getting 4 solid FA's that fill big holes, I would say it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Jet1121 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Come on with this topic man. Tanny is not just throwing the draft picks away he is picking up players. Leon,Haris,Mangold,Brad Smith,Revis are all Been tooken by us by the draft. Im not worried the way Mangini drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 You do realize that by giving up a 3rd and a 5th for Jenkins we are filling our biggest defensive need with a pro bowl caliber top 3 tackle? We would be lucky to get half that production from a 3rd round pick. If getting rid of draft picks immediately fills a huge hole, whats wrong with that? Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. I'd rather have Jenkins than Rodgers ,who is always looking for the oxygen tank everytime he walks off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjetsjetsjets Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. i have never heard any talk of him not being motivated. he has just been a pain in the ass because he supposedly hates charlotte and doesn't agree with decisions the coaching staff has made that has resulted in losses. all i know is that when i woke up this morning i text messaged my cousin who is a big panthers fan and told him of the trade and he wasn't happy with the compensation they got for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. He is 28. He will be 29 in August, not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Last draft we picked up two starters on defense in year one. Not only starters but probably two of the top 3 defenders we had last year. Rhodes being the other. If they don't feel they will get a starter in the 3rd of 5th round why not trade them for a starter? Still have several other picks and possibly some more coming in via trades. This is a great trade to me, two second day picks for a NT, probably the hardest spot to fill in a 3-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. The Jets tried the whole DT without weight issues. And he got thrown around. They need a NT with weight issues. A 3 and a 5? Sign me up as pleased with this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 WTF..I see ..lets get this huge pro bowl player to play NT for us but lets not give up anything to get him..that's how it works..IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU GOTTA GIVE UP SOMETHING!!. This is where the word "TRADE" comes in. You try to work the best deal you can..The FO at Carolina isn't stupid you know ,they know the players trade value. The Jet's FO feels it was worth it so the deal was made, They of course negotiated and this was what made the deal happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 i have never heard any talk of him not being motivated. he has just been a pain in the ass because he supposedly hates charlotte and doesn't agree with decisions the coaching staff has made that has resulted in losses. all i know is that when i woke up this morning i text messaged my cousin who is a big panthers fan and told him of the trade and he wasn't happy with the compensation they got for him. News flash to KJ..The Jets were no better than the Panthers last season..so hopefully he will not tank because if we start losing again (constantly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 The Jets tried the whole DT without weight issues. And he got thrown around. They need a NT with weight issues. A 3 and a 5? Sign me up as pleased with this move. Are you forgetting where we pick in the draft? This is a DEEP draft where a stud could be drafted at pick 69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 WTF..I see ..lets get this huge pro bowl player to play NT for us but lets not give up anything to get him..that's how it works..IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU GOTTA GIVE UP SOMETHING!!. This is where the word "TRADE" comes in. You try to work the best deal you can..The FO at Carolina isn't stupid you know ,they know the players trade value. The Jet's FO feels it was worth it so the deal was made, They of course negotiated and this was what made the deal happen. Right..so Randy goes for a 4th..Vilma goes for a conditional...Kendall goes for a 5th..but when we want someone we break the bank of DP's we have. I am NOT pissed about filling a massive need with KJ if he is motivated..but we gave up too much. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Right..so Randy goes for a 4th..Vilma goes for a conditional...Kendall goes for a 5th..but when we want someone we break the bank of DP's we have. I am NOT pissed about filling a massive need with KJ if he is motivated..but we gave up too much. It's that simple. with teams in excess of 30 mil under the cap, its pretty hard to steal free agents in the early hours. i'm fine with gettin off our hands & makin a move and I wouldn't say 3 & 5 is overpaying for a nt who will actually demand a dble team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 So what guy is going to be drafted that we stick in the middle of the defense and be a Pro Bowler? You have to try to improve and upgrade any way you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 This is a DEEP draft where a stud could be drafted at pick 69. Really? Let's see who gets picked at 69 and see what kind of "stud" they turn in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Right..so Randy goes for a 4th..Vilma goes for a conditional...Kendall goes for a 5th..but when we want someone we break the bank of DP's we have. I am NOT pissed about filling a massive need with KJ if he is motivated..but we gave up too much. It's that simple. There is no way the Jets gave up too much here. Especially with Tangini's draft history. I'd rather have a big, strong NT with a mean streak like Jenkins over whatever boy scout scrubs Tangini was looking at drafting at 3 and 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Are you forgetting where we pick in the draft? This is a DEEP draft where a stud could be drafted at pick 69. Deep or not, it is still a DRAFT. You are more likely to end up with a complete bust than a stud at #69, no matter who is doing the player evaluations. You just never know until they play against players with NFL speed, size, talent, and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 If Kris Jenkins was there in the 3rd round you'd draft him and so would I. This is a perfect way to say it. If Kris Jenkins was in the draft pool... where would you draft him? He'd never make it to round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 This is a perfect way to say it. If Kris Jenkins was in the draft pool... where would you draft him? He'd never make it to round 3. with everyone desperate for DL talent this year (esp after the jints showing in the sb) he wouldn't make it out of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 This is a perfect way to say it. If Kris Jenkins was in the draft pool... where would you draft him? He'd never make it to round 3. That my friend is a cold hard fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? I hope so. Because a 29 year old DT who has wear on him, and has been labeled unmotivated and has weight issues..it not worth a low 3rd rounder AND 5th rounder. I havent heard anything about Jenkins being unmotivated, you sure you arent thinking of Rogers? Jenkins is worth what we gave up to get him considering our huge need and lack of choices at the moment. (Jenkins being one of the better choices) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Really? Let's see who gets picked at 69 and see what kind of "stud" they turn in to. We'll never know who we would have taken now..no sense of "what ifs". Are you stating rounds 3-7 do not matter in the NFL draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 like 1's at a stripper! Seriously..I can't take another draft with only 4 selections. We have too many needs to be tossing DP's around. First of all, they just got a real NT for the next 5 years. Secondly, they only gave up two picks and one of them comes back via the Kendall trade (5th round). There is also a great chance they will recover at least a 3rd rounder for D-Rob. Even if they didn't ... who cares? The few picks they had last year got them a beast at MLB and a starting CB for the next several years. They finally have a NT! I could care less about them having 9 picks if they can get some players in here and they just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I havent heard anything about Jenkins being unmotivated, you sure you arent thinking of Rogers? Jenkins is worth what we gave up to get him considering our huge need and lack of choices at the moment. (Jenkins being one of the better choices) Nope. Jenkins was unmotivated..and balooned close to 400lbs. before getting his weight down to his playing level again. He could be a head case..but he could be the Pro Bowl player we are looking for. This team didn't do jack in FA last year, then proceeded to have only 4 draft choices. All I'm saying is lets not hope for a repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 We'll never know who we would have taken now..no sense of "what ifs". Are you stating rounds 3-7 do not matter in the NFL draft? No, it's not that they don't matter, it's that they far more often than not turn into role players as opposed to a quality multiple probowl stud who fits a glaring need for the team. You do realize that draft picks become players once it is used. I swear I think some of you prefer the fascination and excitement of who the team will draft in each round more than the actual act of getting players. This was a fantastic move for a very good player. If you can't be happy about that then I don't know what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 First of all, they just got a real NT for the next 5 years. Secondly, they only gave up two picks and one of them comes back via the Kendall trade (5th round). There is also a great chance they will recover at least a 3rd rounder for D-Rob. Even if they didn't ... who cares? The few picks they had last year got them a beast at MLB and a starting CB for the next several years. They finally have a NT! I could care less about them having 9 picks if they can get some players in here and they just did. Great teams build through the draft..they don't just take some retreads that teams don't want anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34st GANG Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 They are still working on a trade for Drob, they may pull off this KC trade Chad and Coles and if they trade down from #6 they could have a bunch of picks from a late rd1 thru round 3, and those picks can be cheaper and build your base for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 No, it's not that they don't matter, it's that they far more often than not turn into role players as opposed to a quality multiple probowl stud who fits a glaring need for the team. You do realize that draft picks become players once it is used. I swear I think some of you prefer the fascination and excitement of who the team will draft in each round more than the actual act of getting players. This was a fantastic move for a very good player. If you can't be happy about that then I don't know what to tell you. Guess you didn't read the rest of the thread..but I am happy. But we overpaid. What's hard to understand about that? Getting said player for cheaper would have made me happier..but it is what it is! Kris Jenkins, if he plays to his caliber, will be a fantastic addition to the New York Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 They are still working on a trade for Drob, they may pull off this KC trade Chad and Coles and if they trade down from #6 they could have a bunch of picks from a late rd1 thru round 3, and those picks can be cheaper and build your base for the future. All very good points. Time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENLANTERN Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 No offense to you man seriously... But, you have no idea what you are talking about here. They have had players playing out of position since the beginning of the Edwards era, thats a fact and its undisputed. The Jets have needed a DT since god like what the 80's? We just got a 6'4" 335lb. mean & nasty DT that can play for the next 5+ years. Well worth a 3rd & 5th. Excellent signing Tangini. And now FYI their will be no more yearly annual posts from me of "Wheres the beef" for at least 5 years with the exception to the offensive line! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Jenkins is a defensive tackle, so who cares how old he is? Guys like Sam Adams and Ted Washington played into their 70s and were still effective. Throwing a draft pick away on a mediocre 29 year old running back is one thing. "Throwing a draft pick around" on a 29 year old 350 pound mammoth that is sometimes dominant is a completely different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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