JETSFAN5180 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 As we speak the position is vacant. Do we draft a CB at 6.Sign a free agent make a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 As we speak the position is vacant. Do we draft a CB at 6.Sign a free agent make a trade. We may go after someone like Randall Gay to compete with Miller for the 2nd spot. I seriously doubt we'll use another high 1st rder on a corner when we already have a solid #1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 We may go after someone like Randall Gay to compete with Miller for the 2nd spot. I seriously doubt we'll use another high 1st rder on a corner when we already have a solid #1... Dont be so sure Parcells,Bele all like quality CBs Mangini was a prodigy of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dont be so sure Parcells,Bele all like quality CBs Mangini was a prodigy of these guys. And reports last season were that Justin Miller was slated to be the #2 CB last season before he pulled his hammy in a scrimmage. For all we know, Justin Miller has become a quality #2. If so, we have a nice, young, 1-2 punch with Revis and Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You NEVER have enough quality CB's. If he's healthy I wouldn't mind having Dyson come back at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You NEVER have enough quality CB's. If he's healthy I wouldn't mind having Dyson come back at the right price. Dyson was solid for us, I don't know what happened with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Mangini/Parcells wannabe doghouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Mangini/Parcells wannabe doghouse? I guess that's an easy place to get into. Ask JMac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Rodgers-Cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Rodgers-Cromartie. I'd say there's a VERY good chance of that: We still seem to be interested in Pace, making Gholston an unlikely selection. I don't believe that they would take a RB #6; I think they like Jones/Leon. Not necessary to take Jake Long that high for RT. There will be more than good-enough OT prospects in round 2 so the desperation to grab one at #6 shouldn't be there. Plus they're still interested in Damien Woody (allegedly) to play RT. CB's are a fortune. The top FA CB will have garnered over an $80M contract for the 2nd straight year. And this CB class doesn't really look like a deep one. A Revis/Rodgers-Cromartie tandem sounds awfully good, particularly if we've taken care of our lines by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You can't draft a CB 2 years in a row. They have to take McFadden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You can't draft a CB 2 years in a row. They have to take McFadden. Oh but they can spend 4 draft picks (all 4th round or higher) on RB's in 3 years? That would be ok? I'd rather have the corner anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Oh but they can spend 4 draft picks (all 4th round or higher) on RB's in 3 years? That would be ok? I'd rather have the corner anyway. McFadden is the best offensive playmaker in the draft and the jets offense was pathetic last year. They need McFadden more than another corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You can't draft a CB 2 years in a row. They have to take McFadden. I agree. If we build the front seven, we don't need dominant corners anyway. If Revis ends up being a stud, we'll merely need someone adequate beside him. The front seven makes the defense, not the back four. The recent Super Bowl champions prove this, because the Giants, Colts, and Steelers all had a bunch of ****ty corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawngnome o-line Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 #6 is way too high to go with another CB. Doubt Long will be around for that long. If McFaddens there see if we can nab the two picks from the Cowboys at 22 (780 pts) and 28 (660), and perhaps a day 2 selection. If that happens I say we finish building our line and grab Branden Albert and Rodgers-Cromartie. All else fails though, drafting McFadden would not be the end of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 #6 is way too high to go with another CB. Doubt Long will be around for that long. If McFaddens there see if we can nab the two picks from the Cowboys at 22 (780 pts) and 28 (660), and perhaps a day 2 selection. If that happens I say we finish building our line and grab Branden Albert and Rodgers-Cromartie. All else fails though, drafting McFadden would not be the end of the world Why put yourself in a situation where you have a player making you look bad for 10 years if he turns out. Just draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 McFadden is the best offensive playmaker in the draft and the jets offense was pathetic last year. They need McFadden more than another corner. I just disagree that a RB who goes down so easily is worth the #6 pick in the draft. So do a lot of GM's & scouts. Hell of a lot easier to plug in a RB than a CB. Particularly when we already have two. Personally, I like a lineman or a CB, or if he's special, even a WR that early. Next year there will be another player who is a "future HOF'er" and again the year after that and the year after that. There is no value pick on a 3-4 DL, on our OL, WR or QB for us, so I'd go with the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I just disagree that a RB who goes down so easily is worth the #6 pick in the draft. So do a lot of GM's & scouts. Hell of a lot easier to plug in a RB than a CB. Particularly when we already have two. Personally, I like a lineman or a CB, or if he's special, even a WR that early. Next year there will be another player who is a "future HOF'er" and again the year after that and the year after that. There is no value pick on a 3-4 DL, on our OL, WR or QB for us, so I'd go with the corner. And there are MORE scouts and GM's who think that McFadden is going to be a stud. You don't dominate the SEC by accident. His upside is just way too high to pass up in my opinion. The jets have no other way to get a playmaker like that and without that type of player the offense will be ugly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 And there are MORE scouts and GM's who think that McFadden is going to be a stud. You don't dominate the SEC by accident. His upside is just way too high to pass up in my opinion. The jets have no other way to get a playmaker like that and without that type of player the offense will be ugly again. McFadden is blazing fast, and that is enough to get you by in college football, even in the SEC. Everyone raved about his performance against LSU, and he did kick the **** out of us, but he did it by playing QB in a gimmicky offensive gameplan. I think McFadden will be good and I wouldn't be pissed if we drafted him, but he is no Adrian Peterson. He WILL be better than Reggie Bust, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawngnome o-line Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Why put yourself in a situation where you have a player making you look bad for 10 years if he turns out. Just draft him. Why? Because our o-line would be from left to right: DBrick, Faneca, Mangold, Albert, ? (hopefully a FA signing) By no means am I gonna make a reggie bush reference, but with Jones and Washington and a revamped o-line, we're looking at the TJ we hoped for (1200-1400 yards), and that our QB, whoever it is can have time when they drop back to pass. I'm not against McFadden at all, I think that if he's around and the Cowboys are willing to deal for him, take it and lets finish up rebuilding spots we need help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Why? Because our o-line would be from left to right: DBrick, Faneca, Mangold, Albert, ? (hopefully a FA signing) By no means am I gonna make a reggie bush reference, but with Jones and Washington and a revamped o-line, we're looking at the TJ we hoped for (1200-1400 yards), and that our QB, whoever it is can have time when they drop back to pass. I'm not against McFadden at all, I think that if he's around and the Cowboys are willing to deal for him, take it and lets finish up rebuilding spots we need help The Jets still have no deep threat and no home run threat on the field. They won't be able to compete with NE and the better teams in the NFL without that big play threat that McFadden might be able to provide. There is no other player in the draft with that kind of upside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawngnome o-line Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Right, instead they could become a grind it out team where they have TJ running for 1200-1400 yards, with Washington slashing him, and our QB having protection to pass to at least Cotchery and Baker. We can always get deep threat in the 2nd or 3rd rds. Plus a #6 pick is gonna demand big time money on a position we don't necessarily need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Thomas Jones sucks ****, people. The only way he's getting 1,400 yards is on Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Right, instead they could become a grind it out team where they have TJ running for 1200-1400 yards, with Washington slashing him, and our QB having protection to pass to at least Cotchery and Baker. We can always get deep threat in the 2nd or 3rd rds. Plus a #6 pick is gonna demand big time money on a position we don't necessarily need. Why do you think that NE went out last year and spent 100 million on WR's? You need big plays to win in the NFL and the Jets have NEVER had a home run hitter like this since maybe Wesley Walker. Randy Moss was the reason NE went 18-1 last year. Thats what players like that do. They change the game and way the other players are covered. Why do you think a career 3rd WR led the NFL in receptions? Because they had to cover Moss. If McFadden draws that kind of coverage EVERY OTHER player will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Thomas Jones sucks ****, people. The only way he's getting 1,400 yards is on Madden. I think you'll change your tune come late December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Thomas Jones sucks ****, people. The only way he's getting 1,400 yards is on Madden. Jones is the definition of average. He'll be good as a change of pace back when we get McFadden though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I think you'll change your tune come late December. People said that to me last year. When you look up "mediocre overpaid running back that was acquired in an absolutely moronic trade" in the dictionary, there is a picture of the Dancing Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 People said that to me last year. When you look up "mediocre overpaid running back that was acquired in an absolutely moronic trade" in the dictionary, there is a picture of the Dancing Bear. You need some semblence of an O line to run through I don't care WHO the RB is. We had NO push up front last year. No holes to run through. I think Jones did a great job considering our line. Face it we're looking to upgrade 60% of last years line. Christ our starting LG isn't even on a team anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You need some semblence of an O line to run through I don't care WHO the RB is. We had NO push up front last year. No holes to run through. I think Jones did a great job considering our line. Face it we're looking to upgrade 60% of last years line. Christ our starting LG isn't even on a team anymore. Yes, our offensive line sucked last year. However, that did not stop Leon Washington from averaging 5 yards a carry. A good RB will still do decent, no matter how bad the offensive line. Thomas Jones was Barlow-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'd say there's a VERY good chance of that: We still seem to be interested in Pace, making Gholston an unlikely selection. I don't believe that they would take a RB #6; I think they like Jones/Leon. Not necessary to take Jake Long that high for RT. There will be more than good-enough OT prospects in round 2 so the desperation to grab one at #6 shouldn't be there. Plus they're still interested in Damien Woody (allegedly) to play RT. CB's are a fortune. The top FA CB will have garnered over an $80M contract for the 2nd straight year. And this CB class doesn't really look like a deep one. A Revis/Rodgers-Cromartie tandem sounds awfully good, particularly if we've taken care of our lines by then Was thinking this yesterday as things were developing. Of the remaing needs this team has I think CB and OT are the biggest and those are two of the highest paid positions in the NFL. I'd be fine with Long at OT or Cromartie at CB if not a trade down. Drafting these guys this high is costly but if they pan out they're virtually bargains compared to their veteran counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 You NEVER have enough quality CB's. If he's healthy I wouldn't mind having Dyson come back at the right price. Without a pass rush, all corners are mediocre. First take care of the pass rush. Hey, the Giants won the SB with those corners. That is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 With the goings on of the last few days, I don't think you'll see McFadden fall to us. Miami lost out on Flozell Adams so I'm think Jake Long will now be their pick if they don't pick up a good offensive lineman betweeen now and then. Oakland just dumped a truckload of money for Tommy Kelly (seriously?) Which means they won't be looking at Long, DOrsey, Ellis etc. They also won't be going QB so I think they'll either take McFadden at 4 or move down with someone else who wants him badly. He just won't be there for us. In which case we move down and get extra picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 McFadden is blazing fast, and that is enough to get you by in college football, even in the SEC. Everyone raved about his performance against LSU, and he did kick the **** out of us, but he did it by playing QB in a gimmicky offensive gameplan. I think McFadden will be good and I wouldn't be pissed if we drafted him, but he is no Adrian Peterson. He WILL be better than Reggie Bust, however. Thats how I feel. But the whole baby mama thing, on top of the bar fights, is troubling. I dont even think the Jets would take him at #6 if he is there. As for our 2nd corner, I have no idea, but it is probably our 2nd biggest hole right now (assuming we acquire a RT in free agency) behind a 3-4 pass rushing OLB. The bottom line is this though: The Jets are putting themselves in position to take whoever they want at #6 because they have been so active in free agency filling holes. It could be Mendenhall, Cromartie or Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_monkey Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I've said it before, and I still believe that we'll get a CB fairly high in the draft (or in FA). Mangini is a guy that value his secondary. Revis is great, but we need to cover the other side too. A good CB pair can do wonders for a defense. It would give our flexible 3-4 front more options to create pressure. Trading down for more picks might be an option is we can get good value. We still have a few big holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Enough about BustFadden. Draft Gholston or Trade Down. That is what the Jets need to do at Number 6 to be successful. Then if you trade down you can look at Rodgers-Cromartie or they could still target Randall Gay or Drayton Florence in Free Agency. Remember people, Justin Miller was supposedly improving his play at Cornerback before suffering a season ending injury in Week 2 at Baltimore. We will also re-sign Hank Poteat (most likely) and have Drew Coleman in house. Cornerback isn't a pressing need if they can find an OLB to go with their new, 34 NT. Pressure will help the Corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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