Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yes, I lobbied hard for Melky ... and I still want him here for late inning defense ... he may not be Willie Mays in CF, but he's a better CF {at this point} than Bernie or WOEmack Having said that, the pitching {down to two reliable starters} changes everything ... at least for the time being ... as of this moment the Yankees need to win on the strength of their OFFENSE Therefore, you have to sacrifice defense for OFFENSE ... at least until we have, oh say, four reliable starters as opposed to two NEW STARTING LINEUP ================ SS Derek Jeter - R 2B Robby Cano - L 3B Alex Rodriguez - R LF Hideki Matsui - L RF Gary Sheffield - R 1B Jason Giambi - L DH Ruben Sierra - S CF Bernie Williams - S C Jorge Posada - S TIME TO BUST OUT THE LUMBER!! See last nights game? Unless the Yankees make some deals for SP, that's the way they'll need to win this year ... BANGING Might as well accept it, and set the lineup accordingly ... stack the lineup with our best nine hitters and see if we can bang our way to the post-season ... it's been done before, and that has to be our mindset JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yes, I lobbied hard for Melky ... and I still want him here for late inning defense ... he may not be Willie Mays in CF, but he's a better CF {at this point} than Bernie or WOEmack Having said that, the pitching {down to two reliable starters} changes everything ... at least for the time being ... as of this moment the Yankees need to win on the strength of their OFFENSE Therefore, you have to sacrifice defense for OFFENSE ... at least until we have, oh say, four reliable starters as opposed to two NEW STARTING LINEUP ================ SS Derek Jeter - R 2B Robby Cano - L 3B Alex Rodriguez - R LF Hideki Matsui - L RF Gary Sheffield - R 1B Jason Giambi - L DH Ruben Sierra - S CF Bernie Williams - S C Jorge Posada - S TIME TO BUST OUT THE LUMBER!! See last nights game? Unless the Yankees make some deals for SP, that's the way they'll need to win this year ... BANGING Might as well accept it, and set the lineup accordingly ... stack the lineup with our best nine hitters and see if we can bang our way to the post-season ... it's been done before, and that has to be our mindset JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I agree. Keep Bernie and Sierra in the lineup together until the end of the road trip, and/or we get our pitching staff back in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I agree. Keep Bernie and Sierra in the lineup together until the end of the road trip, and/or we get our pitching staff back in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 not like bernie is going to be any better on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 not like bernie is going to be any better on offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Mike and the Dog grilled Torre on the very subject yesterday. Dog sidd with Melky's lack of defense and being overmatched at the plate so far ,Joe is basically putting a inferior product on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Mike and the Dog grilled Torre on the very subject yesterday. Dog sidd with Melky's lack of defense and being overmatched at the plate so far ,Joe is basically putting a inferior product on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Mike and the Dog grilled Torre on the very subject yesterday. Dog sidd with Melky's lack of defense and being overmatched at the plate so far ,Joe is basically putting a inferior product on the field. Mad Dog is such a piece of ****. I dunno how that loudmouth little beyatch has a gig on the radio And I think he's a Barton to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Mike and the Dog grilled Torre on the very subject yesterday. Dog sidd with Melky's lack of defense and being overmatched at the plate so far ,Joe is basically putting a inferior product on the field. Mad Dog is such a piece of ****. I dunno how that loudmouth little beyatch has a gig on the radio And I think he's a Barton to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 What I'm proposing here is not radical stuff .. it's as old as sports itself .. GOTTA PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTH If your strength is pitching, you have to field a great defense to enhance your strength If your strength is defense {especially INF defense}, you have to employ Groundball Pitchers AND IF YOUR STRENGTH IS OFFENSE ... Gotta stack the lineup with your best hitters and try to bludgeon people Simple as that You can't try to win with what you DON'T HAVE ... you have to try with what you DO HAVE Bottom Line: On MOST DAYS the opposition is going to score lots of runs verses the Yankees ... THAT'S A FACT ... so we have to SCORE MORE, or at least stack the lineup and try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 What I'm proposing here is not radical stuff .. it's as old as sports itself .. GOTTA PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTH If your strength is pitching, you have to field a great defense to enhance your strength If your strength is defense {especially INF defense}, you have to employ Groundball Pitchers AND IF YOUR STRENGTH IS OFFENSE ... Gotta stack the lineup with your best hitters and try to bludgeon people Simple as that You can't try to win with what you DON'T HAVE ... you have to try with what you DO HAVE Bottom Line: On MOST DAYS the opposition is going to score lots of runs verses the Yankees ... THAT'S A FACT ... so we have to SCORE MORE, or at least stack the lineup and try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 You're definetly on the button Ham. The sox have lefty Wells going tonight Bernie is a GREAT hitter from the right side Bernie, along with the hot hitting Sierra, they need to START THE DAMN GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 You're definetly on the button Ham. The sox have lefty Wells going tonight Bernie is a GREAT hitter from the right side Bernie, along with the hot hitting Sierra, they need to START THE DAMN GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Depending on the park Bernie might be possible in center. Although he is terrible out there. And Bernie in the field and Ruben in the lineup at DH everyday is not a long term solution. Both will break down. I have no problem riding it out while it lasts though. ONE WILDCARD: Giambi. He is taking a lot of the heat off because he is hitting now. If Giambi hits I still say DH Bernie\Ruben play for defense in center (I don't care if it is Bubba Crosby). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Depending on the park Bernie might be possible in center. Although he is terrible out there. And Bernie in the field and Ruben in the lineup at DH everyday is not a long term solution. Both will break down. I have no problem riding it out while it lasts though. ONE WILDCARD: Giambi. He is taking a lot of the heat off because he is hitting now. If Giambi hits I still say DH Bernie\Ruben play for defense in center (I don't care if it is Bubba Crosby). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 If Giambi hits I still say DH Bernie\Ruben play for defense in center (I don't care if it is Bubba Crosby). But why, Max ... that's employing a strategy for a team that no longer exists That was fine when we could win with pitching, or our pitching at least gave us a chance to win on most nights {theoretically} ... but that is no longer the case ... on most nights you have to know the opposition is going to light it up and we will need to score a ton of runs to win That's the new reality ... might not be pretty or what we want, but what we want and what we have are two different things Can't try to win with what we DON'T HAVE ... Gotta try with what we DO HAVE And right now that's HITTING We don't have the luxury {at the moment} of shunning offense for defense ... not even at one position ... we're gonna need every run we can get, and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 If Giambi hits I still say DH Bernie\Ruben play for defense in center (I don't care if it is Bubba Crosby). But why, Max ... that's employing a strategy for a team that no longer exists That was fine when we could win with pitching, or our pitching at least gave us a chance to win on most nights {theoretically} ... but that is no longer the case ... on most nights you have to know the opposition is going to light it up and we will need to score a ton of runs to win That's the new reality ... might not be pretty or what we want, but what we want and what we have are two different things Can't try to win with what we DON'T HAVE ... Gotta try with what we DO HAVE And right now that's HITTING We don't have the luxury {at the moment} of shunning offense for defense ... not even at one position ... we're gonna need every run we can get, and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Tonights line-up has Sierra at DH....Melky in center. No Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Tonights line-up has Sierra at DH....Melky in center. No Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Tonights line-up has Sierra at DH....Melky in center. No Bernie. Well then. I guess you just never know what you have in a rook unless you give him opportunities to play in big spots. But dont think Melky will get an AB in the 5th inning if theres runners in scoring position and the Yankees are close in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Tonights line-up has Sierra at DH....Melky in center. No Bernie. Well then. I guess you just never know what you have in a rook unless you give him opportunities to play in big spots. But dont think Melky will get an AB in the 5th inning if theres runners in scoring position and the Yankees are close in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 You know now EB. A nervous rookie thrown into a stage he is not ready for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 You know now EB. A nervous rookie thrown into a stage he is not ready for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yes, I lobbied hard for Melky ... and I still want him here for late inning defense ... Oh, you and me both fella. I gotta have Melky Cabrera in there as much as possible! Now, anyone know where can I get a Melky Cabrera jersey? Better yet...anyone know where I can find one of the many posts where JonEJinx ballwashes this clown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yes, I lobbied hard for Melky ... and I still want him here for late inning defense ... Oh, you and me both fella. I gotta have Melky Cabrera in there as much as possible! Now, anyone know where can I get a Melky Cabrera jersey? Better yet...anyone know where I can find one of the many posts where JonEJinx ballwashes this clown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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