Chad Math

[NJ]

From Cimini's article -

CHAD MATH: If he returns, Chad Pennington will receive a bump in his '08 salary, from $4.8 million to $6 million. It's based on a clause in his contract that was renegotiated two years ago, when he took a pay cut. He's back to his original '08 salary, but his cap number balloons to $9.0 million, ridiculously high for a potential backup.

Considering Chad IS the future - I guess it's ok to pay him for it.

[jack48]

From Cimini's article -

CHAD MATH: If he returns, Chad Pennington will receive a bump in his '08 salary, from $4.8 million to $6 million. It's based on a clause in his contract that was renegotiated two years ago, when he took a pay cut. He's back to his original '08 salary, but his cap number balloons to $9.0 million, ridiculously high for a potential backup.

Considering Chad IS the future - I guess it's ok to pay him for it.

I am through with Chad threads. If we spent all this money to turn this team over to a has-been then we are as dumb as rocks.

[4HCrew]

a has been? did we bring Vinny back?

[faba]

9 million for a backup QB-where can I apply for that job.

[LiLMiCKMANTLE]

9 million for a backup QB-where can I apply for that job.

for real.. coach dont get paid close to that much money and thats all chad is gonna be this season. a extra QB coach for kellen

[L.I.MikeBleedsGreen]

If we pay Chad That much to be our back up ,This means our FO is a bunch of :confused0058:'s

Trade Chad please and dump his crazy contract

[jetfuel]

9 million for a backup QB-where can I apply for that job.

If he is still here when the season starts, he will not be the backup.

[Favorite_Toon]

If we pay Chad That much to be our back up ,This means our FO is a bunch of :confused0058:'s

Trade Chad please and dump his crazy contract

And take coles with you..

[SayNoToDMC]

Al Davis will pay them

[ECURB]

If he is still here when the season starts, he will not be the backup.

Very true.

[DieHardJetsFan]

I remember when Chad was hooking with with Randy Moss at Marshall, I remember when we drafted Pennington in the 1st round in 2000, I remember when Chad Pennington had an amazing season in 2002, his 3rd year in the NFL with 15 games started, 68.9 completion %, over 3000 yards passing, 22 TD's with only 6 INT's with a QB raiting of 104.2, those were the days.

Chad sat the bench his first two years in the NFL as a backup to Vinny gaining the much needed experiecne needed inorder for him to have that break out season in 2002, he only played in 4 games his first two seasons in the NFL with ONLY 25 attempts.

We now have a young Quarterback with alot of potential in Kellen Clemens who sat the bench his whole rookie season backing up Chad Pennington, Kellens rookie season he played in two games with only one passing attempt. Last season Kellen played 10 games behind a horrible O-Line as a 2nd year player.

I'm honestly looking foward to watching Kellen Clemens have a break out season as a 3rd year player with a much improved O-Line after gaining the much needed experience inorder to be a successful NFL quarterback after backing up Chad Pennington for just about two years.

Since then, Chad Pennington has had not one, but two shoulder surgerys on his throwing arm after his break out year in 2002.

In 2003 Chad threw 13 TD's with 12 Interceptions (Also missed 6 games)

In 2004 Chad threw 16 TD's with 9 interceptions (His last solid season as a starter) (also missed 3 games)

In 2005 Chad only played in 3 games

In 2006 Chad threw for 17 TD with 16 interceptions

In 2007 Chad missed 6 games while throwing for 10 TD's with 9 interceptions

Im sorry, But we no longer have the Chad that was throing to Moss, or the Pennington that was learning under BP's and Vinny T, or even the Chad Pennington of 2002 when he had a break out year.

I say we stick with the Young Gun in Kellen Clemens.

[L.I.MikeBleedsGreen]

I remember when Chad was hooking with with Randy Moss at Marshall, I remember when we drafted Pennington in the 1st round in 2000, I remember when Chad Pennington had an amazing season in 2002, his 3rd year in the NFL with 15 games started, 68.9 completion %, over 3000 yards passing, 22 TD's with only 6 INT's with a QB raiting of 104.2, those were the days.

Chad sat the bench his first two years in the NFL as a backup to Vinny gaining the much needed experiecne needed inorder for him to have that break out season in 2002, he only played in 4 games his first two seasons in the NFL with ONLY 25 attempts.

We now have a young Quarterback with alot of potential in Kellen Clemens who sat the bench his whole rookie season backing up Chad Pennington, Kellens rookie season he played in two games with only one passing attempt. Last season Kellen played 10 games behind a horrible O-Line as a 2nd year player.

I'm honestly looking foward to watching Kellen Clemens have a break out season as a 3rd year player with a much improved O-Line after gaining the much needed experience inorder to be a successful NFL quarterback after backing up Chad Pennington for just about two years.

Since then, Chad Pennington has had not one, but two shoulder surgerys on his throwing arm after his break out year in 2002.

In 2003 Chad threw 13 TD's with 12 Interceptions (Also missed 6 games)

In 2004 Chad threw 16 TD's with 9 interceptions (His last solid season as a starter) (also missed 3 games)

In 2005 Chad only played in 3 games

In 2006 Chad threw for 17 TD with 16 interceptions

In 2007 Chad missed 6 games while throwing for 10 TD's with 9 interceptions

Im sorry, But we no longer have the Chad that was throing to Moss, or the Pennington that was learning under BP's and Vinny T, or even the Chad Pennington of 2002 when he had a break out year.

I say we stick with the Young Gun in Kellen Clemens.

That Chad is no longer here,he is only a shell of the player he used to be

[NJ]

If he is still here when the season starts, he will not be the backup.

Very true.

Yep - we sure wouldnt want to waste all those potential TD's that Chad's just dying to connect on.

[ECURB]

Yep - we sure wouldnt want to waste all those potential TD's that Chad's just dying to connect on.

Dont kill the messenger... Mangini obviously really likes Chad,... and if Chad is still here he will win the job in camp again...

I hope Kellen proves me wrong, thats all I can say.

[jetpower10]

i would rather see pennington start then clemens. clemens might have the arm but isnt as accurate as pennington.

[L.I.MikeBleedsGreen]

i would rather see pennington start then clemens. clemens might have the arm but isnt as accurate as pennington.

Yeah..Chad is accurate alright ,He gets the ball to the others teams DB with great accuracy.You guys kill me, I'm still wondering how Chad gives us the Better chance to win when all chad does is throw INT's and games away.To be Honest more than Half the guys on this board can throw those 5 to 10yds throws that chad makes on any day.

[DieHardJetsFan]

i would rather see pennington start then clemens. clemens might have the arm but isnt as accurate as pennington.

It's not fiar to judge Kellen on last years performance with Wontgomery as his starting LG, and Clement as his starting RT. Lets not forget that Thomas Jones was also in his first year as a Jet.

[slats]

9 million for a backup QB-where can I apply for that job.

Well... it's $6M in salary, not $9M. Nothing they can do about the $3M of bonus money against the cap at this stage of the game.

But either way, it's something that has to be addressed. The fact that it hasn't been might suggest that they don't know which way they're going at QB just yet. Maybe they're hoping to see some evidence that Kellen has made a jump from last year in the OTA's, or even in training camp. Maybe they're waiting to see what other veteran QB's come free, or who falls to them in the draft. Maybe they're still really torn between Clemens and Chad.

I'm sure Chad's concerned, too. He has to know that the Jets have 6,000,000 reasons to cut him, and has to wonder what his next payday (if it even comes) might look like.

[fastmover]

It's not fiar to judge Kellen on last years performance with Wontgomery as his starting LG, and Clement as his starting RT. Lets not forget that Thomas Jones was also in his first year as a Jet.

The same can be said about Chad also!

Semper fi

[SoFlaJets]

who is the starting QB right now for the Chiefs-Brody Croyle? Are there any other QB's on the roster now? They need to trade for him

[JohnnyLV]

Dont kill the messenger... Mangini obviously really likes Chad,... and if Chad is still here he will win the job in camp again...

I hope Kellen proves me wrong, thats all I can say.

What makes you say that? There is no evidence of that. He waited as long as possible to move away from the team captain, but once he did he showed no allegiance to Chad and actually preferred Smith running the option than Chad in their full time in the NE game. Chad fans see what they want to see but there is nothing to support Chad returning as the starter or being Mangini's "guy"

[Irish Jet]

Yeah..Chad is accurate alright ,He gets the ball to the others teams DB with great accuracy.You guys kill me, I'm still wondering how Chad gives us the Better chance to win when all chad does is throw INT's and games away.To be Honest more than Half the guys on this board can throw those 5 to 10yds throws that chad makes on any day.

It's comments like this that just confuse me.

Chad started 8 games this season (9 if you include the Pats game) and threw 9 picks. Not good I admit.

Kellen threw 10 picks in the same no. of starts so your whole comment doesn't make any sense.

Remember the New England game where KC had 1 attempt which was an INT TD. Then Chad came in (already down 10) and played pretty well (didn't throw any picks). That game to me emphasized how much a different level our 2 QB's are on right now.

[Arsis]

The same can be said about Chad also!

Semper fi

no it can't.

[shutout]

It's comments like this that just confuse me.

Chad started 8 games this season (9 if you include the Pats game) and threw 9 picks. Not good I admit.

Kellen threw 10 picks in the same no. of starts so your whole comment doesn't make any sense.

Remember the New England game where KC had 1 attempt which was an INT TD. Then Chad came in (already down 10) and played pretty well (didn't throw any picks). That game to me emphasized how much a different level our 2 QB's are on right now.

No offense,but that game is a terrible comparison. That INT was thrown as Clemens got absolutely drilled to the point he was injured. Peyton Manning throws a pick six if he gets hit that hard and that cleanly from his own endzone.

How about Chad, for all his "accuracy",only throwing 1 fewer INT than that young gunslinger who is so careless with the ball (by comparison to Chad)? Plus how many of Chad's INTs were on the last drive and game killers? And Clemens?

[#27TheDominator]

It's not fiar to judge Kellen on last years performance with Wontgomery as his starting LG, and Clement as his starting RT. Lets not forget that Thomas Jones was also in his first year as a Jet.

Dude, get it straight. Montgomery only started the last two games. It's Clarke that you want to rag on. FWIW, Chad did much better the year before with a much worse RB, Clement at RT. We should cut the kid some slack, but he doesn't get a free pass.

[Irish Jet]

No offense,but that game is a terrible comparison. That INT was thrown as Clemens got absolutely drilled to the point he was injured. Peyton Manning throws a pick six if he gets hit that hard and that cleanly from his own endzone.

How about Chad, for all his "accuracy",only throwing 1 fewer INT than that young gunslinger who is so careless with the ball (by comparison to Chad)? Plus how many of Chad's INTs were on the last drive and game killers? And Clemens?

Seriously, don't even try to defend that pick. It was absolutely ****ing terrible. The last possible thing he you should do in that scenario and he done it.

Peyton Manning simply throws that ball away.

I wasn't defending Chad really, I admitted that is a very bad total of picks. However using that figure as a reason for KC to play is terribly contradictory considering he had even more picks.

[Gainzo]

Remember the New England game where KC had 1 attempt which was an INT TD. Then Chad came in (already down 10) and played pretty well (didn't throw any picks). That game to me emphasized how much a different level our 2 QB's are on right now.

Are you talking about the game were Clemens got crushed by Seymour in the end zone because he had an open lane to the QB? That wasn't Clemens fault. Trust me, I was there.

The weather was atrocious that day. A perfect day for Mr. Game Manager to lead the Jets to 3 points.

That's a really bad example IJ.

[Irish Jet]

Are you talking about the game were Clemens got crushed by Seymour in the end zone because he had an open lane to the QB? That wasn't Clemens fault. Trust me, I was there.

The weather was atrocious that day. A perfect day for Mr. Game Manager to lead the Jets to 3 points.

That's a really bad example IJ.

How in the name of Christ was that 'not Clemens fault'. The hit came after the ball was out of his hands so you can't possibly use that as an excuse. In that situation he should have thrown it away or even taken a safety. I've just watched it again and it really was a horrible desicion and throw.

[Irish Jet]

Are you talking about the game were Clemens got crushed by Seymour in the end zone because he had an open lane to the QB? That wasn't Clemens fault. Trust me, I was there.

The weather was atrocious that day. A perfect day for Mr. Game Manager to lead the Jets to 3 points.

That's a really bad example IJ.

Mr.Goldenboy led the Pats to what??? 6 points??? Against the great Jets defence???

Also not to mention Justin McCrap dropped a sure TD and Nugent shanked a kick but whatever.

[Gainzo]

How in the name of Christ was that 'not Clemens fault'. The hit came after the ball was out of his hands so you can't possibly use that as an excuse. In that situation he should have thrown it away or even taken a safety. I've just watched it again and it really was a horrible desicion and throw.

After the game he said he tried to throw it away but didn't have enough time to step up in the pocket (notice how the guard was in his way?)

Would you have preferred that he took the safety and gave the ball back to the Pats?

You are clutching at straws.

If you want to see pick sixes I'm sure I could find an entire library with an author named Chad.

[#27TheDominator]

No offense,but that game is a terrible comparison. That INT was thrown as Clemens got absolutely drilled to the point he was injured. Peyton Manning throws a pick six if he gets hit that hard and that cleanly from his own endzone.

How about Chad, for all his "accuracy",only throwing 1 fewer INT than that young gunslinger who is so careless with the ball (by comparison to Chad)? Plus how many of Chad's INTs were on the last drive and game killers? And Clemens?

Listen, I'm all for giving the kid a chance, but that "young gunslinger" threw 10 INTs and only 5 TDs. Mr. game manager got 10 TDs. That's my problem with Clemens, he doesn't throw for any TDs. I expect mistakes, but I'd expect more TDs and flashes of ability.

[Gainzo]

Mr.Goldenboy led the Pats to what??? 6 points??? Against the great Jets defence???

Also not to mention Justin McCrap dropped a sure TD and Nugent shanked a kick but whatever.

I knew you would bring up Brady. He had absolutely nothing to do with how the Jets QB's performed that day. Thanks for trying.

[BReal32]

After the game he said he tried to throw it away but didn't have enough time to step up in the pocket (notice how the guard was in his way?)

Would you have preferred that he took the safety and gave the ball back to the Pats?

You are clutching at straws.

If you want to see pick sixes I'm sure I could find an entire library with an author named Chad.

whats worse? having a QB with a whole library about how to throw a pick 6 in mostly meaninless games or having a QB with only one book titled "how to choke on the biggest NFL stage and throw away a perfect season"?

hmm....maybe we should have a poll question thread about this.

[Gainzo]

whats worse? having a QB with a whole library about how to throw a pick 6 in mostly meaninless games or having a QB with only one book titled "how to choke on the biggest NFL stage and throw away a perfect season"?

hmm....maybe we should have a poll question thread about this.

Are you talking about the guy that has been to 5 AFC Championship games and 4 Super Bowls since becoming a starter in 2001? The same guy that has won 3 of those Super Bowls?

I don't think Tom Brady choked. After getting pummeled all game he lead the team on a TD drive with 3 minutes left that gave the Pats the lead.

He wasn't playing defense when the Pats gave up the game winning TD.

What was your point again?

Edit: I hate to bring up Brady but I had to point out breal32's total ignorance. Does Chad throw pick sixes? Yes. Does Brady take his team deep in the playoffs? Yes.

[BReal32]

Are you talking about the guy that has been to 5 AFC Championship games and 4 Super Bowls since becoming a starter in 2001? The same guy that has won 3 of those Super Bowls?

I don't think Tom Brady choked. After getting pummeled all game he lead the team on a TD drive with 3 minutes left that gave the Pats the lead.

He wasn't playing defense when the Pats gave up the game winning TD.

What was your point again?

um yeah. that's the guy. sorry, but i'm sort of a "what have you done lately" kind of guy. i try not to relive glorious past accomplishments. but that's probably because i'm a die hard red sox fan (can't deal with the whole yankees 26 rings thing) and Jets fan.

oh yeah, and i hate Tom Brady.