khesanh Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/index There's like 700 articles there! Which one are you refering to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Jets have improved, but quarterback remains an issue By Pat Yasinskas ESPN.com (Archive) The New York Giants won the Super Bowl. The New York Jets are trying to buy one. The Jets must have brought in consultants because it appears they believe Lombardi Trophies cost about $140 million in new contract money. That number's going to keep growing because the Jets are still going to sign role players and their draft picks. Oh, and if they bring in a proven quarterback with a big arm (which they currently lack), the number could get a lot closer to $200 million in new contracts. So far, the Jets have signed offensive lineman Alan Faneca (to what was at first a team record in free agency). Then they traded a couple of draft picks to Carolina for disgruntled defensive tackle Kris Jenkins and handed him a big new contract. Then they quickly turned around and signed offensive tackle Damien Woody and linebacker Calvin Pace (who got a bigger deal than Faneca). So what do the Jets have that they didn't during last year's 4-12 season? They have a much bigger (and that's a point to keep an eye on) nose tackle in their 3-4 defense in Jenkins, whose weight has ballooned from 330 to close to 400 through much of his career. The Jets thought Dewayne Robertson, the undersized tackle Jenkins will replace, would be gone by now. But a potential trade to Cincinnati fell apart. The Jets will continue to shop Robertson, but they'll be lucky to get a late-round pick for him. It's now looking possible that Robertson could stick around. But that would be awkward because he'll clearly be a backup. Releasing Robertson is another option. Trading for Jenkins and giving him a new contract that includes $11 million in guaranteed money is a bit of a gamble. But it looks as though the Jets have the odds in their favor. Early in his career, Jenkins was talked about as the best defensive tackle in the league, a new breed who could stuff the running game and rush the passer. But Jenkins had injury problems that kept him out for most of 2004 and 2005. During his comeback, Jenkins admitted to problems with alcohol and his weight, and said he may have suffered from depression. Jenkins cut way back on his alcohol consumption, tried to take better care of himself and was at least somewhat happy part of the time. But Jenkins, who can be a little moody, wasn't happy that Carolina wasn't stepping up to give him a new contract. He tried to force his way out with a trade last year because he had grown disillusioned with certain members of the coaching staff for using politics to decide who got playing time. Jenkins, as bright and candid a player as there is in the league, stood out like a sore thumb in a Carolina system where coach John Fox demands that all his players (except for receiver Steve Smith) be robotic choirboys. Jenkins, who has some tastes that weren't popular in the Bible belt, was so anxious for a change of scenery that he put his suburban mansion on the market a year ago and moved into an apartment downtown so he could feel like he was in a city. When Jenkins learned he was going to New York, he was jubilant. That's a good start because a happy and focused Jenkins can be a dominant force and a Pro Bowler. Jenkins has even said he plans to take part in voluntary workouts, something he avoided in Carolina, which on doubt added to his weight problem. If Jenkins can keep his weight in the 350-360 range, he can be the player he once was and this move could be brilliant. But that's not the only move the Jets made to try to spice up their defense. They spent another fortune on Pace. Drafted in the first round by Arizona (2003) as a defensive end, Pace eventually moved to linebacker and it wasn't until last season that he really blossomed, recording 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I agree I like Chad but we still need a quality strong armed QB. KC did not impress me in the least bit sorry KC lovers. I hope im wrong but Mangini going back to Chad tells me he felt the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I agree I like Chad but we still need a quality strong armed QB. KC did not impress me in the least bit sorry KC lovers. I hope im wrong but Mangini going back to Chad tells me he felt the same way. Mangini went back to Chad after he was benched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If QB is such a big issue for us how come he only has a paragraph or 2 actually about our QB's? I agree that we need a QB, but that's either going to be Clemens or bust for this year. And in the meantime we'll just have to hope that he will be helped by the much improved OL and running game that we should have next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 There's like 700 articles there! Which one are you refering to? The one about the JETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Mangini went back to Chad after he was benched? I said the same thing when I read that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Mangini went back to Chad after he was benched? Ok then what does that say about KC??????? We need a QB and a #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Ok then what does that say about KC??????? We need a QB and a #1 WR. Amen brother That is why if Ryan falls to us, we take the plunge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Amen brother That is why if Ryan falls to us, we take the plunge I have a feeling you may be right the Jets need and want a legitimate NFL QB to even think about being a contender.No way Mangini settles for Chad and KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Clemens is the 2008 QB and unless he bombs he'll be the 09 QB too. I guarantee Chad will be traded. I'm all for bringing in a Vet. If we end up with a few 2's or 3's I'm all for drafting a QB also. But Clemens will be fine. He had a CRAP O line and a lot of his starts he dealt with 1 of his wr's hurt. Get him a legit WR and he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Mangini went back to Chad after he was benched? Weeks 15 and 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Ok then what does that say about KC??????? We need a QB and a #1 WR. What does what say about KC? That it "says" something that Mangini didn't bench his starter in favor of a guy with 1 career start because he missed a game due to injury? I'm not even a KC dick-sucker. He was lousy last year. But going back to Pennington in game 3 didn't "say" anything. And after Pennington got benched, the EXACT same thing happened. Clemens got knocked out & returned as the starter as soon as he was healthy. After Chad was benched, Mangini never "went back" to him. It says nothing. I would like them to bring in someone else. Problem is that there is no one else. Pennington is awful & Clemens hasn't shown much other than a propensity to throw picks. But it was what -- 7 games? Then you bring up that we need a #1 WR. Well our #1 was Coles. You feel we need an upgrade from him (and I agree), yet Clemens had to make do without even HIM as the #1. It was Cotchery/Smith or Cotchery/McCareins. Until he got hurt also. Then it was Smith/McCareins a bit. I'd like to see anyone look good throwing to those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 so what we didnt bring any new QB in but who knows what the guys we have here now are going to do with the re-built offensive line in front of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Chad loses week 1, KC loses week 2, Vinny is signed week 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Ho hum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Chad loses week 1, KC loses week 2, Vinny is signed week 3 When are Quincy Carter, Jay Fiedler, Patrick Ramsey and Brooks Bollinger brought back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsstuff Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 You can bet Clemens will start. If that wasn't the plan then he would have been replaced by now. He is past the "waiting in the wings stage" as a result of him taking over for a benched Pennington last year. You can't do that twice with the same QB on the same team and you don't draft a 2nd rounder to be a backup, not to mention the fact that he really has not been given a legitimate shot. If KC fails miserably than you can put in Chad and go back to the QB drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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