AFJF Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Just wanted to see if there were any posters in to WW II history. I just booked this vacation for next year and I can't friggin wait Follow the pathways of patriots in a journey that focuses on World War II, the fight for Normandy and the battles that followed. A comprehensive tour of London highlights Buckingham Palace, The Houses of Parliament and Westminster Abbey, and includes a guided tour of the Imperial War Museum. A ferry ride takes you across the English Channel where a visit to the Memorial Museum in Caen, France puts the remainder of the tour in historical context. Visit Ste. Mere Eglise and the Airborne Museum; and see where the 2nd Ranger Battalion scaled 100-foot cliffs on D-Day morning to control the landing approaches to Omaha and Utah beaches. En route to Reims and the magnificent Reims Cathedral, you will pass many famous towns, sites and cemeteries from World War I. Upon arrival in Reims, tour the Museum of the Surrender, where the German High Command surrendered in 1945. Travel to Bastogne, Belgium, where the Battle of the Bulge was fought, and in Luxembourg, visit the burial site of General Patton. In Cologne, visit the beautiful gothic cathedral, which boasts the largest western fa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Oh yeah, history buff right here. That is an awesome sightseeing trip, to say the least. I am particularly interested in the D-Day stuff because it has always intrigued me for some reason. I know I would definately enjoy this trip too. It looks like you will cover alot of ground on this tour, exactly how long is it supposed to take? And don't forget you have to take lots of pics so I can see them. Man, I am envious of you now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 AirforceJetfan- i am interested in historical events- I collect newspaper headlines of important events- sounds like a great trip- I am curious how long and who is running the trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hey, while we're at it, what are some of your favorite WWII movies? Mine are: Saving Private Ryan Band of Brothers Series (HBO) Enemy at the Gates-Awesome flick, that I was lucky enough to find in the bargain bin at Wal Mart for 5 bucks U-571 Pearl Harbor-good action but too long IMO Hart's War The Thin Red Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 history buff here as well. love that ww2... sounds like a really cool trip. whenever im in europe i love to stop to check out old ww2 bunkers and whatnot. if you get a chance check out a CC. they have some wierd energies going on in there but its a powerful piece of history i was pissed when i was in salzburg, on a tight schedule and a guy pointed to this mountain and said, "the german border is right there, on the other side of the mnt is eagles nest" i wanted to see it so bad but it was a solid all afternoon diversion and that would have cut into my gelato time in venice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 The trip is 12 days long and it's being run by a company called collette tours. I actually found the trip on a web site called affordabletours.com. You put in the tour criteria for anywhere in the world and they have a bunch of tour agencies who they get their tour packages from. The deals I've seen on here are truly UNREAL. I did a week in China with air, hotel, admission to sights, and meals for $1,400. As far as my favorite WWII movie it's easily private Ryan. I didn't see band of brothers but I did read it. Currently reading D-Day by Ambrose who is THE man when it comes to WWII. I have five or six other Ambrose books I got off of Amazon that I'll be reading before the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Sounds like a good deal to me- I always like to see with my football or other trips if the cities have any historical sites - last year I went to Dallas and saw where JFK got shot and the museum they have there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Sounds like a good deal to me- I always like to see with my football or other trips if the cities have any historical sites - last year I went to Dallas and saw where JFK got shot and the museum they have there The sixth floor museum...cool place, I visited there when I was in tech school in Texas a few years ago. It's kind of odd but to me there's something about standing in a place where such significant events have taken place. I loved walking around the collesium in Rome and the first time in my life I truly understood what it is to feel eerie was on a visit to Dachau concentration camp in Germany. That was nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I have not been to Europe, but in NC there are several historical places I've been to. Out at Kitty Hawk on the coast I got to see the place where the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane. Old Salem, west of here, is a very nice colonial landmark as well. Then you have the Biltmore House in the mountains. Then we also have the Tryon Palace here that served as the first capital city before it was moved to Raleigh. Most of these things I saw when I took a NC History class in college. We had to do a scavenger hunt, where we had a list of historical objects and landmarks we were to photograph or collect and put in a scrapbook. I really had alot of fun doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hey, while we're at it, what are some of your favorite WWII movies? Mine are: Saving Private Ryan Band of Brothers Series (HBO) Enemy at the Gates-Awesome flick, that I was lucky enough to find in the bargain bin at Wal Mart for 5 bucks U-571 Pearl Harbor-good action but too long IMO Hart's War The Thin Red Line Dude, Pearl Harbor was a horrible movie and about the most historically inaccurate WWII ever made. Type in "Historical Inaccuracy" and Pearl Harbor on google and you'll see what I mean. Enemy at the Gates was a good flick. The Thin Red line sucked, didn't care too much for Hart's War either. Best WWII movies in my opinion were both Saving Private Ryan and Patton. Patton is probably my favorite WWII. Other good ones: The Longest Day To Hell and Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dude, Pearl Harbor was a horrible movie and about the most historically inaccurate WWII ever made. Type in "Historical Inaccuracy" and Pearl Harbor on google and you'll see what I mean. Like I said, I thought it had some good action sequences in it and I liked the visuals...other than that not alot to it really. It was too long for starters, and the blame for that was it focused more on fictional characters in a love triangle than the actual event (ala Titanic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dude, Pearl Harbor was a horrible movie and about the most historically inaccurate WWII ever made. Type in "Historical Inaccuracy" and Pearl Harbor on google and you'll see what I mean. Enemy at the Gates was a good flick. The Thin Red line sucked, didn't care too much for Hart's War either. Best WWII movies in my opinion were both Saving Private Ryan and Patton. Patton is probably my favorite WWII. Other good ones: The Longest Day To Hell and Back I have to agree with you here Mavrik on the Pearl Harbor comment. That movie was complete sh*t and in my opinion a true disgrace to the veterans who were there. To use the title "Pearl Harbor" only to sell a damn love story is a joke. Pearl Harbor was like "Titanic" with some bombs. Never saw "To Hell and Back" but I liked the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 If you get a chance, check out the museum at Checkpoint Charlie. If it's still there. It's amazing how some people escaped from East Germany to the West. BTW, I liked Shaving Ryan's Privates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob D Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 A ferry ride takes you across the English Channel where a visit to the Memorial Museum in Caen, France puts the remainder of the tour in historical context. I assume this means you are getting a ferry from Portsmouth. If you have any spare time there then you could go and see the HMS Victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 I assume this means you are getting a ferry from Portsmouth. If you have any spare time there then you could go and see the HMS Victory. Yes, the ferry is from Portsmouth but I'm not sure how long we're there or how long we'll get to go off on our own but I'll see everything I can in the time we're given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Dude, Pearl Harbor was a horrible movie and about the most historically inaccurate WWII ever made. Type in "Historical Inaccuracy" and Pearl Harbor on google and you'll see what I mean. Enemy at the Gates was a good flick. The Thin Red line sucked, didn't care too much for Hart's War either. Best WWII movies in my opinion were both Saving Private Ryan and Patton. Patton is probably my favorite WWII. Other good ones: The Longest Day To Hell and Back I agree with you. I'd add Das Boot, Cross of Iron, Memphis Belle, The Dambusters and Kelly's Heroes. I've a major interest in WWII, but it would tend to gravitate more towards the air war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I've a major interest in WWII, but it would tend to gravitate more towards the air war. If you haven't already, check out this site. It has alot of good info on WW2 planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Cool site, thanks for the link. Ever check this one out? http://www.luft46.com/ Stuff the Germans had on the drawing board, some insane ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Nice site, PDM. That Arado Ar E.581.4 looks like the early stages of the modern stealth bomber. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I got a confession to make. In 1986, my ship was in Toulon France. There was a group tour planned for Normandy. The catch was, you had to wear your uniform and participate in a memorial ceremony. I didn't go because I didn't want to wear my uniform on my day off. I was just a kid with some out of whack priorities. One of my many regrets in life, not going. I ended getting hammered in some city gut dive for two days. I got maced by a hooker, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I got a confession to make. In 1986, my ship was in Toulon France. There was a group tour planned for Normandy. The catch was, you had to wear your uniform and participate in a memorial ceremony. I didn't go because I didn't want to wear my uniform on my day off. I was just a kid with some out of whack priorities. One of my many regrets in life, not going. I ended getting hammered in some city gut dive for two days. I got maced by a hooker, too. Think of it this way, how many people get to say they were actually turned away by a hooker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I'm a big war historian in General. Especially interested in WWII. I've even been working on a book with a history prof--First Person Narratives of Wartime in the Twentieth Century. Your trip sounds like it has the potential to be an amazing learning experience. Just for the record: Patton, hands down. Then Private Ryan. Tora Tora Tora. As for Pearl Harbor. Heartbreaking in it's cruddiness. Sappy, incorrect, and nearly unwatchable. Would have been Affleck's worst movie ever if he hadn't made Gigli, Reindeer games, Coming home for Christmas...his star is falling fast. It's almost time for him to play someone mentally challenged so that he can be nominated for an oscar (see: Dustin Hoffman, Sean Penn, Cuba Gooding Junior, Leonardo DiCaprio, Giovanni Ribisi, and Keanu Reeves. Wait a minute. Not Reeves. He's always like that.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Think of it this way, how many people get to say they were actually turned away by a hooker? A French whore, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 A French whore, no less. I wonder what she smelled like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I wonder what she smelled like? Turn your air conditioner off, do a few sets of push ups and sit ups, wait about an hour, then scratch your balls and smell your finger. That's what she smelled like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor99 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Listen, just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you have to flaunt it. My family and I haven't had mustard on our sandwiches in weeks, and here you are bragging about all that delicious mustard. You rich people could show a little tact, you know, especially to those of us who have to eat "neighbor's mulch soup", and fried bologna omelets (without the bologna. or the eggs.) Mustard. What i wouldn't give for a discarded butterknife with a bit of mustard dried on it. We used to dream of 'neighbor's mulch soup'. We would have to eat air, and we were thankful for what we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 We used to dream of 'neighbor's mulch soup'. We would have to eat air, and we were thankful for what we had. You lucky bastard! Unlimited air! If only we didn't live in a vacuum-sealed shipping container, we could spare enough air to eat, and still have enough to breathe all at the same time instead of one at at time at intervals. And we sir, are incredibly greatful for what little air we have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Beg pardon, but.... Is that Grey Poupon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 You lucky bastard! Unlimited air! If only we didn't live in a vacuum-sealed shipping container, we could spare enough air to eat, and still have enough to breathe all at the same time instead of one at at time at intervals. And we sir, are incredibly greatful for what little air we have! Our rich neighbors had a vacuum-sealed shipping container. All 47 of us had to live in a septic tank behind Shady Acres rest home. Colostomy bags make a nice pillow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Our rich neighbors had a vacuum-sealed shipping container. All 47 of us had to live in a septic tank behind Shady Acres rest home. Colostomy bags make a nice pillow. Pillows! My god your shamelessness knows no bounds! When i was a kid my family (all 75 of us) used to live on a piece of splintered plywood floating adrift on Lake eerie. twenty five of us would have to sleep stacked one atop the other while the other fifty waited treading water. What I wouldn't have given for a colostomy bag instead of Grandpa luigi's shinbone for a pillow. And I was greatful! Greatful That Grandpa luigi was only recently dead and therfore hadn't shifted during the squall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Pillows! My god your shamelessness knows no bounds! When i was a kid my family (all 75 of us) used to live on a piece of splintered plywood floating adrift on Lake eerie. twenty five of us would have to sleep stacked one atop the other while the other fifty waited treading water. What I wouldn't have given for a colostomy bag instead of Grandpa luigi's shinbone for a pillow. And I was greatful! Greatful That Grandpa luigi was only recently dead and therfore hadn't shifted during the squall. So you're saying that you had water? :wink: I could play this game all day long. What a great Python skit that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 So you're saying that you had water? :wink: I could play this game all day long. What a great Python skit that was. I wonder how many folks are familiar with Python's less famous skits? Well done Thor, anyway. We'll hijack another thread in the future, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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