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I thought this was already well established, however, it seems some of you aren't ready to put down this dying horse just yet. I am sure many of these things I am about to say have been addressed in other posts, but I just can't stomach reading all of those threads. My brain will explode at the sheer lunacy of the Chadophiles. How can any sane person look at Kellen Clemens and say he sucks after just 8 GAMES as a starter, but look at Chad Pennington and think he's the answer after 6 YEARS of mediocrity?

Since 2002 (the year Chad was good, or as I call it, "the Damon Huard Year")

58 TDs, 49 INTs

Oh, but Chad is a winner!

Since 2002: Chad Pennington is 25-27 as the Jets' primary QB.

Chad Pennington is the very definition of mediocre. He is on the exact same level as superstuds like Joey Harrington, Cleo Lemon, Damon Huard, and A.J. Feeley. He is a backup and nothing more. He is not capable of leading a team deep into the playoffs. He is not capable of beating an upper echelon defense. He is not capable of leading the team from a two touchdown defecit at any point in time (unless he is playing the '04 49ers, one of the worst teams in NFL history). He is the Herman Edwards of QBs, and unfortunately, it may take him wearing another uniform before some of you quit buying into his bull****. He and Herm are a match made in heaven. You won't be scoring 30 points and playing that arena ball with those two together. Herm Edwards likes to run a rotting vagina of an offense and Chad Pennington is his perfect C.L.I.T. Commander.

If Chad Pennington starts on opening day next season, unless Kellen Clemens is injured, Eric Mangini should be fired, period. All the goodwill, all the big free agency splashes, it means absolutely nothing if we are content to sit in the neutral with this bum as the QB. It's not like they haven't had a chance to replace him. Schaub, Cutler, Garcia, Quinn; they have had numerous opportunities to put a bullet in the head of Barbaro. He is not the answer, and he has never been the answer. He may have tricked us into believing he was six years ago, but most of us have realized we were duped. This franchise has wasted enough time on this lady-armed loser.

But, Chad is a warrior! No, he is not. He's just a football player, and a ****ty one at that.

BTW, if anyone will give me $64 million, I will personally rip my own shoulder out of socket.

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I thought this was already well established, however, it seems some of you aren't ready to put down this dying horse just yet. I am sure many of these things I am about to say have been addressed in other posts, but I just can't stomach reading all of those threads. My brain will explode at the sheer lunacy of the Chadophiles. How can any sane person look at Kellen Clemens and say he sucks after just 8 GAMES as a starter, but look at Chad Pennington and think he's the answer after 6 YEARS of mediocrity?

Since 2002 (the year Chad was good, or as I call it, "the Damon Huard Year")

58 TDs, 49 INTs

Oh, but Chad is a winner!

Since 2002: Chad Pennington is 25-27 as the Jets' primary QB.

Chad Pennington is the very definition of mediocre. He is on the exact same level as superstuds like Joey Harrington, Cleo Lemon, Damon Huard, and A.J. Feeley. He is a backup and nothing more. He is not capable of leading a team deep into the playoffs. He is not capable of beating an upper echelon defense. He is not capable of leading the team from a two touchdown defecit at any point in time (unless he is playing the '04 49ers, one of the worst teams in NFL history). He is the Herman Edwards of QBs, and unfortunately, it may take him wearing another uniform before some of you quit buying into his bull****. He and Herm are a match made in heaven. You won't be scoring 30 points and playing that arena ball with those two together. Herm Edwards likes to run a rotting vagina of an offense and Chad Pennington is his perfect C.L.I.T. Commander.

If Chad Pennington starts on opening day next season, unless Kellen Clemens is injured, Eric Mangini should be fired, period. All the goodwill, all the big free agency splashes, it means absolutely nothing if we are content to sit in the neutral with this bum as the QB. It's not like they haven't had a chance to replace him. Schaub, Cutler, Garcia, Quinn; they have had numerous opportunities to put a bullet in the head of Barbaro. He is not the answer, and he has never been the answer. He may have tricked us into believing he was six years ago, but most of us have realized we were duped. This franchise has wasted enough time on this lady-armed loser.

But, Chad is a warrior! No, he is not. He's just a football player, and a ****ty one at that.

BTW, if anyone will give me $64 million, I will personally rip my own shoulder out of socket.

POTW NOM

Chad is a brittle little queen who isn't physically able to beat an NFL caliber defense with his little girl like arm.

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No doubt Chad is average at best but Clemens has happy feet and he is also color blind. Neither of the two is the answer.

Clemens didn't look so hot last year, but who is to judge him after only 8 games? We have six years of evidence that shows that Chad blows, but we have a half of a season and we're ready to write off Kellen? Wouldn't you have happy feet too with that horrific offensive line of '07?

Clemens may not be the answer, but Pussington definitively is not. Unless they draft Matt Ryan, Clemens MUST be the starter next season. We have never seen Clemens surrounded by offensive talent. We have seen Chad surrounded by offensive talent and all that got us was 3 points in a divisional playoff game three years ago. If only Quincy Carter wasn't smacked up, maybe we could have went to the AFC Championship...

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We have never seen Clemens surrounded by offensive talent. We have seen Chad surrounded by offensive talent and all that got us was 3 points in a divisional playoff game three years ago. If only Quincy Carter wasn't smacked up, maybe we could have went to the AFC Championship...

We have the same talent we had last year though, unless we draft McFadden. He has more time to get it to the talent though. Bottom line, as of right now, I think Chad's the better quarterback, but Kellen right now is just potential, and who knows if he'll ever grow into anything, we just need to start him. Lets see what we've got into this kid. I honestly don't think much of Matt Ryan either, though.

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We have the same talent we had last year though, unless we draft McFadden. He has more time to get it to the talent though. Bottom line, as of right now, I think Chad's the better quarterback, but Kellen right now is just potential, and who knows if he'll ever grow into anything, we just need to start him. Lets see what we've got into this kid. I honestly don't think much of Matt Ryan either, though.

Chad is done.

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Clemens didn't look so hot last year, but who is to judge him after only 8 games? We have six years of evidence that shows that Chad blows, but we have a half of a season and we're ready to write off Kellen? Wouldn't you have happy feet too with that horrific offensive line of '07?

Clemens may not be the answer, but Pussington definitively is not. Unless they draft Matt Ryan, Clemens MUST be the starter next season. We have never seen Clemens surrounded by offensive talent. We have seen Chad surrounded by offensive talent and all that got us was 3 points in a divisional playoff game three years ago. If only Quincy Carter wasn't smacked up, maybe we could have went to the AFC Championship...

it's pretty simple. chad haters and chad lovers both have their agendas. you clearly have yours. but i guarantee you weren't saying the same thing in 2006 when CP was leading the Jets to the playoffs. i am in no way saying that chad is a great QB, but i'm sick and tired of hearing the chad bashing. it's easy for you to sit there and reflect on the past, but like i said earlier, you weren't sitting there in 2004 or 2006 and saying he sucks. you were making the same excuses that all the CPF lovers now are still making. i personally like the guy but am totally ready to move on if that's what's best. but i'm not going to sit there behind my computer screen and play tough while bashing an NFL player.

i wish i could be that angry about sports and the players in that sport. but i can't. if someone is playing poorly, bench them. if they are playing great, let them start. whoever it is. that's my theory. if pennington starts will you want him to play poorly? if not, i guarantee though that you are the first one calling for his head should he falter at any time.

let the best player play. it's simple. and given that you've provided such concrete evidence, obviously it will be KC. i mean to quote you, chad blows. and apparently, please let's bring Quincy Carter back. you come off as a more of a chad hater than a Jet lover.

sorry, just my opinion.

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it's pretty simple. chad haters and chad lovers both have their agendas. you clearly have yours. but i guarantee you weren't saying the same thing in 2006 when CP was leading the Jets to the playoffs. i am in no way saying that chad is a great QB, but i'm sick and tired of hearing the chad bashing. it's easy for you to sit there and reflect on the past, but like i said earlier, you weren't sitting there in 2004 or 2006 and saying he sucks. you were making the same excuses that all the CPF lovers now are still making. i personally like the guy but am totally ready to move on if that's what's best. but i'm not going to sit there behind my computer screen and play tough while bashing an NFL player.

i wish i could be that angry about sports and the players in that sport. but i can't. if someone is playing poorly, bench them. if they are playing great, let them start. whoever it is. that's my theory. if pennington starts will you want him to play poorly? if not, i guarantee though that you are the first one calling for his head should he falter at any time.

let the best player play. it's simple. and given that you've provided such concrete evidence, obviously it will be KC. i mean to quote you, chad blows. and apparently, please let's bring Quincy Carter back. you come off as a more of a chad hater than a Jet lover.

sorry, just my opinion.

sperm already debunked the myth that chad led the team to the playoffs in 06. We went to the playoffs in 06 despite Chad pennington's play at QB.

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sperm already debunked the myth that chad led the team to the playoffs in 06. We went to the playoffs in 06 despite Chad pennington's play at QB.

oh, sorry. i didn't realize that pennington had nothing to do with the playoff run. and because it was stated on JetNation.com, i'm sure that any QB would have led the Jets to the playoffs. i didn't realize that everything said here was gospel (no disrespect in anyway to sperm or anybody else).

i don't mean to come off as a CP lover because i'm not. i'm just not a hater. i, like the rest of you, just want to see the Jets win. why does it matter who is the QB. are you going to discredit a SB championship if it's pennington at QB. i didn't think so.

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oh, sorry. i didn't realize that pennington had nothing to do with the playoff run. and because it was stated on JetNation.com, i'm sure that any QB would have led the Jets to the playoffs. i didn't realize that everything said here was gospel.

i don't mean to come off as a CP lover because i'm not. i'm just not a hater. i, like the rest of you, just want to see the Jets win. why does it matter who is the QB. are you going to discredit a SB championship if it's pennington at QB. i didn't think so.

You should read the post, It's actually quite long and well thought out and is pretty accurate imo.

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You should read the post, It's actually quite long and well thought out and is pretty accurate imo.

it may be arsis. and please don't think i'm bashing people here because i'm not. but it's just so annoying seeing people like The Troll continually bash pennington. every post is about how bad he sucks or he's the only reason the Jets suck. we get it. time to move on and root for the team. that's all i'm saying. and you can argue that rooting for KC to start IS rooting for the team, but most of those people are same one's who discredit anything that chad has done for the Jets. i mean for someone to compare CP to Cleo Lemon or Damon Huard? that just reeks of someone who has a personal agenda against the QB and doesn't really want to see the team do well as long as that player is still on the field.

it's just gets old after awhile.

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it may be arsis. and please don't think i'm bashing people here because i'm not. but it's just so annoying seeing people like The Troll continually bash pennington. every post is about how bad he sucks or he's the only reason the Jets suck. we get it. time to move on and root for the team. that's all i'm saying. and you can argue that rooting for KC to start IS rooting for the team, but most of those people are same one's who discredit anything that chad has done for the Jets. i mean for someone to compare CP to Cleo Lemon or Damon Huard? that just reeks of someone who has a personal agenda against the QB and doesn't really want to see the team do well as long as that player is still on the field.

it's just gets old after awhile.

http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=828214#post828214

That is the post I was talking about BTW.

I can understand where you are coming from, but take the time to actually read the anti-chad posts and you'll begin to see that they have a point. The guy is injury prone and he has trouble scoring points. I understand it can be annoyingly repetitive but what else do you expect in the off season.

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it may be arsis. and please don't think i'm bashing people here because i'm not. but it's just so annoying seeing people like The Troll continually bash pennington. every post is about how bad he sucks or he's the only reason the Jets suck. we get it. time to move on and root for the team. that's all i'm saying. and you can argue that rooting for KC to start IS rooting for the team, but most of those people are same one's who discredit anything that chad has done for the Jets. i mean for someone to compare CP to Cleo Lemon or Damon Huard? that just reeks of someone who has a personal agenda against the QB and doesn't really want to see the team do well as long as that player is still on the field.

it's just gets old after awhile.

CP and Cleo Lemon and Damon Huard are all backup-talent QB's. The personal agenda is in not seeing that.

The Jets are one of the few teams he even has a chance at starting on. But then at certain points last year, both Lemon & Huard were starters themselves. So I guess that evens out also.

There are only 2 possible reasons to give Chad Pennington a shot at a starting job:

(1) absolute desperation

(2) he's already on the team

If anyone really wanted him for a starter, they would have made an offer since Tannenbaum has said he'd listen to all offers. There hasn't even been so much as a rumor that any team is the least bit interested.

You want to argue who is the better backup QB among those clowns? Go ahead.

They're all lousy QB's.

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it's pretty simple. chad haters and chad lovers both have their agendas. you clearly have yours. but i guarantee you weren't saying the same thing in 2006 when CP was leading the Jets to the playoffs. i am in no way saying that chad is a great QB, but i'm sick and tired of hearing the chad bashing. it's easy for you to sit there and reflect on the past, but like i said earlier, you weren't sitting there in 2004 or 2006 and saying he sucks. you were making the same excuses that all the CPF lovers now are still making. i personally like the guy but am totally ready to move on if that's what's best. but i'm not going to sit there behind my computer screen and play tough while bashing an NFL player.

i wish i could be that angry about sports and the players in that sport. but i can't. if someone is playing poorly, bench them. if they are playing great, let them start. whoever it is. that's my theory. if pennington starts will you want him to play poorly? if not, i guarantee though that you are the first one calling for his head should he falter at any time.

let the best player play. it's simple. and given that you've provided such concrete evidence, obviously it will be KC. i mean to quote you, chad blows. and apparently, please let's bring Quincy Carter back. you come off as a more of a chad hater than a Jet lover.

sorry, just my opinion.

Please familiarize yourself with the search feature. As awesome as you may think it is, I wasn't very impressed with the six straight games in 2006 in which Ladyarm McGee failed to throw for 200 yards. Chad "led us" to the playoffs in 2006...lol. Give me a ****ing break. Pennington was the very definition of average in 2006. He threw one more TD than interception. He racked up big numbers against horrendous pass defenses like Green Bay and Minnesota and couldn't do jack **** against teams like Jacksonville, Chicago, and New England. And, yes, I know we beat New England. I think that had more to do with the defense keeping Brady on his back all day long than the amazing 33 attempts for 168 yards by Mrs. Pennington. Oh, and not to mention Jericho Cotchery turning one of Chad's wobbly duck prayers into a TD by stealing it from the DB.

As for 2004, I still had a tiny, sliver of hope for Pennington. The Pittsburgh game erased that forever. It's a little ridiculous to question my Jets fanhood when you clearly have no idea about me whatsoever. I hate Chad Pennington BECAUSE I love the Jets. I don't know about you, but I'd like to see them win a championship. As long as #10 is behind center, dinking and dunking this franchise into oblivion, that ain't gonna happen.

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it's pretty simple. chad haters and chad lovers both have their agendas. you clearly have yours. but i guarantee you weren't saying the same thing in 2006 when CP was leading the Jets to the playoffs. i am in no way saying that chad is a great QB, but i'm sick and tired of hearing the chad bashing. it's easy for you to sit there and reflect on the past, but like i said earlier, you weren't sitting there in 2004 or 2006 and saying he sucks. you were making the same excuses that all the CPF lovers now are still making. i personally like the guy but am totally ready to move on if that's what's best. but i'm not going to sit there behind my computer screen and play tough while bashing an NFL player.

i wish i could be that angry about sports and the players in that sport. but i can't. if someone is playing poorly, bench them. if they are playing great, let them start. whoever it is. that's my theory. if pennington starts will you want him to play poorly? if not, i guarantee though that you are the first one calling for his head should he falter at any time.

let the best player play. it's simple. and given that you've provided such concrete evidence, obviously it will be KC. i mean to quote you, chad blows. and apparently, please let's bring Quincy Carter back. you come off as a more of a chad hater than a Jet lover.

sorry, just my opinion.

I've only negged maybe 3 times on this board. One of those was DWC, and another one was because the guy actually asked for it, I don't know why, but it didn't matter.

I had to neg you because that post is bull****. If you weren't around back then, then you have no right to say what happened then. We had huge arguments pretty much every day and after every week on Chad. Smizzy, ironically, warned most of us, or at least me, for being Anti-Chad, because it was getting so heated.

There were many of us that said Chad sucked. It was especially pronounced after the Bears game, and around that stretch where he was absolutely awful. Most of us wanted Clemens to start this year from at least the Baltimore game on. Definitely before the actual switch was made. Some guys defended Chad, but many people were anti-Chad. Me, Barton and I think Troll too were all vocally against Chad starting.

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As for 2004, I still had a tiny, sliver of hope for Pennington. The Pittsburgh game erased that forever. It's a little ridiculous to question my Jets fanhood when you clearly have no idea about me whatsoever. I hate Chad Pennington BECAUSE I love the Jets. I don't know about you, but I'd like to see them win a championship. As long as #10 is behind center, dinking and dunking this franchise into oblivion, that ain't gonna happen.

I see, O'Brien misses two FG's and it's Chads fault ? Got it. :roll:

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I see, O'Brien misses two FG's and it's Chads fault ? Got it. :roll:

Chad had 5 quarters to score, and all he managed on offense was one frickin field goal.

He then fails to advance the ball when the defense hands him the ball in field goal range. In fact, we lost yardage. Now that could have been Hermy's fault. But Chad can override calls, and Chad is supposed to be intelligent. If you're going to give the QB credit for when the right offense is called and executed, he has to take the blame when the wrong calls are made and the offense is inept. Plus Chad has been fairly crappy even without Herm, so I think the two of them just both blow.

I gotta say, I don't want Chad coaching any QBs. Chad's release is slow, he gets no velocity, and he has no pocket awareness. This is probably the worst possible QB coach when you throw his offensive philosophy of always checking down and throwing an INT on an out in the 4th quarter on top of all that.

Clemens is a midget and he is puny so I'm afraid for him too. I am sick of these fragile wimpy white QBs. I'm not saying we should get a black QB, I'm saying let's get either a white or black QB that doesn't look like he should be playing two hand touch. Vinny was our last durable guy but he was old. Glenn Foley, Chad Pennington, ugh.

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Clemens didn't look so hot last year, but who is to judge him after only 8 games? We have six years of evidence that shows that Chad blows, but we have a half of a season and we're ready to write off Kellen? Wouldn't you have happy feet too with that horrific offensive line of '07?

Clemens may not be the answer, but Pussington definitively is not. Unless they draft Matt Ryan, Clemens MUST be the starter next season. We have never seen Clemens surrounded by offensive talent. We have seen Chad surrounded by offensive talent and all that got us was 3 points in a divisional playoff game three years ago. If only Quincy Carter wasn't smacked up, maybe we could have went to the AFC Championship...

You are right. It is a con. Chad in the Film Room, Chad Bumping Helmets, Chad Waving HisTtowel. That is enough to convince some people. Chad in the Red Zone, Chad Checking Down One Second Into the Play, Chad Underthrowing INTs in the 4th Quarter somehow gets overlooked. Forget Chad the Ultimate Teammate. Chad the Human Press Conference. How about Chad the Mediocrity as a Football Player?

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Please familiarize yourself with the search feature. As awesome as you may think it is, I wasn't very impressed with the six straight games in 2006 in which Ladyarm McGee failed to throw for 200 yards. Chad "led us" to the playoffs in 2006...lol. Give me a ****ing break. Pennington was the very definition of average in 2006. He threw one more TD than interception. He racked up big numbers against horrendous pass defenses like Green Bay and Minnesota and couldn't do jack **** against teams like Jacksonville, Chicago, and New England. And, yes, I know we beat New England. I think that had more to do with the defense keeping Brady on his back all day long than the amazing 33 attempts for 168 yards by Mrs. Pennington. Oh, and not to mention Jericho Cotchery turning one of Chad's wobbly duck prayers into a TD by stealing it from the DB.

As for 2004, I still had a tiny, sliver of hope for Pennington. The Pittsburgh game erased that forever. It's a little ridiculous to question my Jets fanhood when you clearly have no idea about me whatsoever. I hate Chad Pennington BECAUSE I love the Jets. I don't know about you, but I'd like to see them win a championship. As long as #10 is behind center, dinking and dunking this franchise into oblivion, that ain't gonna happen.

I thought the point of having a board like this is to discuss suggestions which help the team win. Everybody on this board (Pats flamers excepted, of course) wants the Jets to win. I do not hate Chad Pennington. But he has gotten far too much credit for Jet successes in the past because he has a media here that kisses his ass. Anyone who answers all the questitons gets the lollipop. Now I am really going to blaspheme: Hackett made Pennington. We all seemed to hate Hackett but it was herm who held the team back. Hackett knew Chad better than anyone and made him look better than anyone else could.

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I thought the point of having a board like this is to discuss suggestions which help the team win. Everybody on this board (Pats flamers excepted, of course) wants the Jets to win. I do not hate Chad Pennington. But he has gotten far too much credit for Jet successes in the past because he has a media here that kisses his ass. Anyone who answers all the questitons gets the lollipop. Now I am really going to blaspheme: Hackett made Pennington. We all seemed to hate Hackett but it was herm who held the team back. Hackett knew Chad better than anyone and made him look better than anyone else could.

I don't think it's that controversial or blasphemous. Hackett probably realized Pennington had no arm strength but did possess good accuracy. The solution: don't throw it over 8 yards under any circumstances, unless someone is WIDE open.

When you see a stat like (as of 2005 or whatever) "Chad has never thrown an interception in the red zone"...on the surface it's so impressive-sounding you overlook the obvious: he barely threw it at all in the red zone unless someone was WIDE open or had a jersey # between 20 and 49. Every QB throws picks. The best of the best; no one goes a whole season without an interception. But Chad was raised by Hackett on a diet of "Don't make a mistake. Don't make a mistake. Never make a mistake." The safe route is to check down to his backs and check down he did. Again and again and again.

It is this religion I wouldn't want him to pass on to younger QB's - Clemens, Ryan, whomever. It is a disease; not everyone has his girly-arm & must play his girly-version of QB.

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it's pretty simple. chad haters and chad lovers both have their agendas. you clearly have yours. but i guarantee you weren't saying the same thing in 2006 when CP was leading the Jets to the playoffs. i am in no way saying that chad is a great QB, but i'm sick and tired of hearing the chad bashing. it's easy for you to sit there and reflect on the past, but like i said earlier, you weren't sitting there in 2004 or 2006 and saying he sucks. you were making the same excuses that all the CPF lovers now are still making. i personally like the guy but am totally ready to move on if that's what's best. but i'm not going to sit there behind my computer screen and play tough while bashing an NFL player.

i wish i could be that angry about sports and the players in that sport. but i can't. if someone is playing poorly, bench them. if they are playing great, let them start. whoever it is. that's my theory. if pennington starts will you want him to play poorly? if not, i guarantee though that you are the first one calling for his head should he falter at any time.

let the best player play. it's simple. and given that you've provided such concrete evidence, obviously it will be KC. i mean to quote you, chad blows. and apparently, please let's bring Quincy Carter back. you come off as a more of a chad hater than a Jet lover.

sorry, just my opinion.

Boy are you way off. I started panning Chad in 2004. I figured 2003 would be a tough year after he was injured in 2003, but to be honest the red flags went up in 2002 during the playoff game vs the Raiders. His gamestyle was so conservative i was alarming. Even when we were well behind in the game he was still dumping 5 yard passes. I chalked it up to his age, but when the same crap was still happening in 2004 I knew there was a serious problem. In 2006 he did suck. He was nothing special and barely had a .500 TD/INT ratio. In 2004 he and Herm single handedly lost both games vs PIT, especially the playoff game where Big Ben was gift wrapping the game to us. Cahd couldn't muster more that 3 offensive points. Chad sucks. Chad has ALWAYS sucked (minus 2002). Jets fans desperation to have a decent QB since Joe Namath is the only reason people accept his level of suckiness in the desperate hope he becomes the golden child he was supposed to be. Well, he ain't a child anymore and his hue is alot closer to **** brown than golden.

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