How is Chien-Ming Wang not an ace?

[Gainzo 147,142]

Answer my question:

Do you think Im a Red Sox fan yes or no?

If no, what team do I root for.

You are obviously a Yankee hater and UMass hockey lover. Loser.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Dude, what part of my last post directed to you didn't you get. What part of "Maybe why I keep saying "Keep telling yourself that", because I don't want to hear what Bostonians have to say." don't you get?

I'll answer for you. Im a Mets fan. No, Im not a typical Mets fan who hates the Yankees. I am not jealous of the success of the Yankees. I had wished the Mets would start acting like the Yankees and make winning a priority. I was born and raised in East Northport NY LI. I lived there for 25 years. I've been a Mass-hole for 5 years.

I also can debate baseball without having a bias. Something you cannot do.

So stop it. Learn how to debate. Im not very good at it, but I kicked yo' azz.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Answer my question:

Do you think I care?

You should.

btw... I answered you question... will you answer mine??

Oh thats right. You cant.

Go to JI. They like this immature bullcrap on their site. Here, you need to bring it. And you didnt.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

You are obviously a Yankee hater and UMass hockey lover. Loser.

I am a UMass hockey lover. But not a Yankee hater. They arent my rivals. Why should I care what they do.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

You should.

Sorry, I dont.

[The Troll 97,444]

Keep putting words in my mouth... lol

I'm putting no words in your mouth. I am simply following the ridiculous logic you've been using in this thread.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Sorry, I dont.

Well, it proves how much of a loser you are then.

Oh... btw, I actually do agree with you... Wang is one of the better pitchers in the game. Maybe not top 20, but right there.

I would love to have him as a Met.

but my opinion doesnt matter... Im a Bostonian. right?

[The Troll 97,444]

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[Blackout 63,311]

So right now you would say Wang's the 10th best pitcher in the game? Does that mean that 20 other teams don't have a pitcher better than Wang, soon to be 19. If someone is the 10th best pitcher in the game, like what I think Blackout is saying, then what?

I don't think Wang is an ace.

I'd also take John Lackey, Erik Bedard, Felix Hernandez. and John Smoltz. and maybe even Computer Porn Zambrano.

and to be honest, Francisco Liriano.

now, if Wang can do something this post season and/or win a Cy Young then maybe I'll listen. until then he's just a guy who's been great two years on a team with lots of run production.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

Well, it proves how much of a loser you are then.

Oh... btw, I actually do agree with you... Wang is one of the better pitchers in the game. Maybe not top 20, but right there.

I would love to have him as a Met.

Ok, so you're calling me a loser, because I don't care what team you root for?... lol

Get a life, dude.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Add Zambrano and Smoltz to that list.

Victor Zambrano, right?

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

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[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Ok, so you're calling me a loser, because I don't care what team you root for?... lol

Get a life, dude.

No Im calling you a loser because you:

refuse to answer any question I posed to you.

refuse to accept any point I or anyone else made.

act like a spoiled brat when people dont agree with you.

You said you didnt want to hear my opinion because Im a Bostonian. And you were wrong.

Your only answer is .

You are making Yankee fans look bad. You are a loser. You got your ass kicked in this thread and you have no answer for it.

Maybe why I keep saying "Keep telling yourself that", because I don't want to hear what Bostonians have to say. Just because they win a couple championships in a couple sports they think they're hot ****, the fact that you even think Wakefield is good, is laughable, really i'm done with this topic, because i'm not going to be talking with someone who has these ignorant ideas.

You arent a loser??? Again. I repeat. Check and Mate.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

No Im calling you a loser because you:

refuse to answer any question I posed to you.

refuse to accept any point I or anyone else made.

act like a spoiled brat when people dont agree with you.

You said you didnt want to hear my opinion because Im a Bostonian. And you were wrong.

Your only answer is .

You are making Yankee fans look bad. You are a loser. You got your ass kicked in this thread and you have no answer for it.

Thats the only answer you deserve, and it's the only answer you'll get until you get a life.

[Blackout 63,311]

Liriano hasn't been healthy all year, who knows how he'll come back from a season long injury. Lackey is out for a while, isn't he? Bedard, I have said he's probably a top 5 pitcher in the league. Hernandez, I think is an amazing pitcher, young pitcher. What is he, like 20?

If Liriano comes back from surgery, he has more upside than Wang

so basically

thats like 16 guys i'd rather have over Wang.

here is one minor victory: wang > dicek (based on what we've seen from Dicek so far)

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

If Liriano comes back from surgery, he has more upside than Wang

so basically

thats like 16 guys i'd rather have over Wang.

here is one minor victory: wang > dicek (based on what we've seen from Dicek so far)

Here is a list of guys I would choose over Wang:

Beckett

Bedard

Kazmir

Santana

Peavy

Sabathia

Webb

Haren

and maybe Lackey, Hernandez, Zambrano, and Verlander. For those who can't count... lol... that is 12 pitchers.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Thats the only answer you deserve, and it's the only answer you'll get until you get a life.

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS:

WHAT MAKES A PITCHER AN ACE? HOW MANY PITCHERS CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ACE?

Btw... I do need to get a life. I should be in bed so I can get up for my job in the morning instead of talking with morons like yourself who have no clue about:

1. baseball outside of the Yankees

2. debating a topic

3. understanding and respecting others opinion.

I think Im the only one who agrees with you, but because you are such a jack-ass you cant see that!

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS:

WHAT MAKES A PITCHER AN ACE? HOW MANY PITCHERS CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ACE?

Btw... I do need to get a life. I should be in bed so I can get up for my job in the morning instead of talking with morons like yourself who have no clue about:

1. baseball outside of the Yankees

2. debating a topic

3. understanding and respecting others opinion.

I think Im the only one who agrees with you, but because you are such a jack-ass you cant see that!

The fact that you insult people on the internet, proves even if you have a job, you still have no life.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

The fact that you insult people on the internet, proves even if you have a job, you still have no life.

Because I insulted you proves I have no life?

No. Me having over 4,000 posts on a Jets message board proves I have no life.

Talking to close minded idiots on a jets message board proves I have no life.

Insulting you is the only thing one can do to a close minded moron like yourself.

And yes, I do have a job. A pretty good one too. I dont need EBT to buy my groceries like you.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

Because I insulted you proves I have no life?

No. Me having over 4,000 posts on a Jets message board proves I have no life.

Talking to close minded idiots on a jets message board proves I have no life.

Insulting you is the only thing one can do to a close minded moron like yourself.

And yes, I do have a job. A pretty good one too. I dont need EBT to buy my groceries like you.

dude, you really need to grow up...

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

dude, you really need to grow up...

right after you.

[Blackout 63,311]

Here is a list of guys I would choose over Wang:

Beckett

Bedard

Kazmir

Santana

Peavy

Sabathia

Webb

Haren

and maybe Lackey, Hernandez, Zambrano, and Verlander. For those who can't count... lol... that is 12 pitchers.

add Cole Hamels, John Smoltz, Fausto Carmona and Chad Billingsley.

Oh, and Chris Young.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

Maybe why I keep saying "Keep telling yourself that", because I don't want to hear what Bostonians have to say. Just because they win a couple championships in a couple sports they think they're hot ****, the fact that you even think Wakefield is good, is laughable, really i'm done with this topic, because i'm not going to be talking with someone who has these ignorant ideas.

POTW NOM!!!!

Im the immature one. right??

"I dont want to hear what Bostonians have to say." Pathetic Yankee fan ignorance at its finest.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

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[Blackout 63,311]

I'll take Cole Hamels. He's the next big SO guy.

[Barton 66,730]

He's not an ace until he gets an offspeed pitch that he can throw for strikes.

[Lil Bit Special 167,784]

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[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

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[Arsis 16,265]

If he keeps getting 19+ wins a seasons with an era under 4 I don't care if you guys call him a jack I will love the fact that he in one my team.

[MagicBizkit87 7,087]

If he keeps getting 19+ wins a seasons with an era under 4 I don't care if you guys call him a jack I will love the fact that he in one my team.

Yeah, for real, thats the truth right there.

[Gainzo 147,142]

Other ace's from today:

Johan Santana 7 IP, 7 hits, 1 run, 3 K's

New ERA: 1.93

Result: Loss

Roy Halladay 8 IP, 10 hits, 4 runs, 6 k's

New ERA: 4.20

Result: Win

Josh Beckett 4.2 IP, 3 hits, 5 runs, 6 k's

New ERA: 9.64

Result: Loss

and Here is Chien-Ming Wang:

6 IP, 4 hits, 0 runs, 6 k's

New ERA: 1.38

Result: Win

How is Dice-K not an ace?

6.2 IP, 4 hits, 0 runs, 7 k's

New ERA: 1.47

Result: Win

I demand that everyone calls Dice-K an ace. I won't be able to sleep at night if you don't agree with me.

[Zeebers 2,685]

How is Dice-K not an ace?

6.2 IP, 4 hits, 0 runs, 7 k's

New ERA: 1.47

Result: Win

I demand that everyone calls Dice-K an ace. I won't be able to sleep at night if you don't agree with me.

Dice-K might actually have the stuff to be an ACE. There's stretch where he looks dominant, but he seems to have periods of wildness that does him in. If he can improve his control, Bobby V might just be right about him.

[Gainzo 147,142]

Dice-K might actually have the stuff to be an ACE. There's stretch where he looks dominant, but he seems to have periods of wildness that does him in. If he can improve his control, Bobby V might just be right about him.

Spot on. He has innings where he cant hit the side of a barn, but in other innings he is lights out. Very frustrating.

[Blackout 63,311]

How is Dice-K not an ace?

6.2 IP, 4 hits, 0 runs, 7 k's

New ERA: 1.47

Result: Win

I demand that everyone calls Dice-K an ace. I won't be able to sleep at night if you don't agree with me.

I'm sorry, DiceK has shown nothing to prove himself of being ace-worthy.

nice #2 guy for now though.

[Gainzo 147,142]

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