Lets think logically about our picks....

[CoachTsurfing]

Here's a few scenario's

1. Gholston with our 1st round. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Cason or Porter two very good and productive cb's. Manningham, Ducet or Manningham would be a first rounder if he didn't have some character concerns.

2. Mcfadden with our 1st pick. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Mayo or Connor one or both of these lb's are going to be there. Both are going to start in the nfl some where.

3. McKelvin with our 1st pick. Don't be surprised if we go with him if DMC and Gholston are gone. This kid is going to start from day one. I know we picked Revis with our first last year and I know the money it would cost at one position. But, we missed out on Samuel and Miller just can't get it done. Our second round pick would be one of the following: From here we would probably target one of the lb's or w.r.'s previously listed.

I think with our 2 4th rounders we would target the best o linemen and maybe a DT to groom. Possible te or qb if one falls out of the third round. O.k. boys rip apart.

[aec4]

Here's a few scenario's

1. Gholston with our 1st round. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Cason or Porter two very good and productive cb's. Manningham, Ducet or Manningham would be a first rounder if he didn't have some character concerns.

2. Mcfadden with our 1st pick. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Mayo or Connor one or both of these lb's are going to be there. Both are going to start in the nfl some where.

3. McKelvin with our 1st pick. Don't be surprised if we go with him if DMC and Gholston are gone. This kid is going to start from day one. I know we picked Revis with our first last year and I know the money it would cost at one position. But, we missed out on Samuel and Miller just can't get it done. Our second round pick would be one of the following: From here we would probably target one of the lb's or w.r.'s previously listed.

I think with our 2 4th rounders we would target the best o linemen and maybe a DT to groom. Possible te or qb if one falls out of the third round. O.k. boys rip apart.

If we decide we want McKelvin, or DMC/Gholston are gone, then we MUST try to trade down. I know, easier said than done. However, if that's our choice at 6, let's go down to 9 or so, save some cash, pick up a selection, and take McKelvin or Cromartie at that position.

[The Troll]

When we picked Mike Nugent, I threw off my hat and broke a vase.

I'm going to move all breakables out of the living room in case of the off chance that we waste our first pick on a ****ing cornerback.

[Greenseed3]

I fail to see any logic.

Logically speaking, our options are only as good as what is available at the time we pick. The "magnificent seven", Long, Long, McFadden, Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston and Ryan all pose a quantitative value. If not for us, for some team desperate for "elite" help before the drop-off.

For that reason I see us sitting pretty at #6.

[gangreenman]

If we decide we want McKelvin, or DMC/Gholston are gone, then we MUST try to trade down. I know, easier said than done. However, if that's our choice at 6, let's go down to 9 or so, save some cash, pick up a selection, and take McKelvin or Cromartie at that position.

No way the Bengals do that. Even if Glenn Dorsey is still around, they know that neither us (6), the Pats (7), or the Ravens (8) have him at the top of their boards.

Especially with the cap bind theyre in, not even a slim chance of that happening.

[The Troll]

No way the Bengals do that. Even if Glenn Dorsey is still around, they know that neither us (6), the Pats (7), or the Ravens (8) have him at the top of their boards.

Especially with the cap bind theyre in, not even a slim chance of that happening.

You are forgetting that the Bengals are complete morons.

[gangreenman]

You are forgetting that the Bengals are complete morons.

Yes, they are complete morons...Without cap room. Which is why there is no way they can trade up 3 spots to get a player that will probably fall to them at 9 if he makes it out of the top 5.

[aec4]

Yes, they are complete morons...Without cap room. Which is why there is no way they can trade up 3 spots to get a player that will probably fall to them at 9 if he makes it out of the top 5.

You're probably right, but remember, just because 6-7-8 doesn't have him on the top of the board, doesn't mean 6-7-8 won't TRADE with someone who does.

Now 9 was an example. Heck, I think we can go down to 13-14-15 and still get one of the CBs if that's what we want.

[will]

You're probably right, but remember, just because 6-7-8 doesn't have him on the top of the board, doesn't mean 6-7-8 won't TRADE with someone who does.

Now 9 was an example. Heck, I think we can go down to 13-14-15 and still get one of the CBs if that's what we want.

Den, Car, NO, Cin all in the market for DT help. Dorsey and/or Ellis are legit trade bait.

[#27TheDominator]

I think with our 2 4th rounders we would target the best o linemen and maybe a DT to groom. Possible te or qb if one falls out of the third round. O.k. boys rip apart.

I don't think we are going to be looking at any DTs to groom. I thought we'd be looking at mid-round NT prospects, but I don't anymore. We have a lot of money in Jenkins and Pouha. If they were thinking of cutting Pouha they probably wouldn't have extended him. IIRC, they still have Mosley so they might try to replace CJ with a tweener DT/3-4DE type, but they aren't likely to keep 3 pure NTs on the roster.

[Sperm Edwards]

I don't think we are going to be looking at any DTs to groom. I thought we'd be looking at mid-round NT prospects, but I don't anymore. We have a lot of money in Jenkins and Pouha. If they were thinking of cutting Pouha they probably wouldn't have extended him. IIRC, they still have Mosley so they might try to replace CJ with a tweener DT/3-4DE type, but they aren't likely to keep 3 pure NTs on the roster.

I agree, but Pouha isn't exactly uncuttable; we only gave him a $1M signing bonus. Though I fail to see the purpose in that extension prior to the draft.

[#27TheDominator]

I agree, but Pouha isn't exactly uncuttable; we only gave him a $1M signing bonus. Though I fail to see the purpose in that extension prior to the draft.

Pouha isn't exactly uncuttable based on talent either. Thing is, cutting him would make that extension seem pretty silly. There is some track record for this front office making such a silly move. Didn't they do almost the same thing last year with Kimo?

I think there are a few intriguing nose prospects. Guys like Rubin and Red Bryant might be real nice pickups if they last to the fourth and later. Particularly if we can get a fourth or fifth for DRob. I don't think the Jets will be actively looking for an NT prospect anymore. They still may take one if he falls in their lap.

[Sperm Edwards]

Pouha isn't exactly uncuttable based on talent either. Thing is, cutting him would make that extension seem pretty silly. There is some track record for this front office making such a silly move. Didn't they do almost the same thing last year with Kimo?

I think there are a few intriguing nose prospects. Guys like Rubin and Red Bryant might be real nice pickups if they last to the fourth and later. Particularly if we can get a fourth or fifth for DRob. I don't think the Jets will be actively looking for an NT prospect anymore. They still may take one if he falls in their lap.

Yeah, they gave Kimo like a $750K roster bonus in March & then cut him a few months later.

There are definitely a few NT prospects out there this year, which is pretty unusual. Even more unusual that we would choose a year like that to extend someone like Pouha at $2M per when he was already under contract. Should have left him at his current deal & drafted another one; let them compete if Mangini is so big on competition. I hate to think that we might cheap out on Rhodes to the tune of $1-2M/yr because we extended friggin' Pouha.

[CoachTsurfing]

I fail to see any logic.

Logically speaking, our options are only as good as what is available at the time we pick. The "magnificent seven", Long, Long, McFadden, Dorsey, Ellis, Gholston and Ryan all pose a quantitative value. If not for us, for some team desperate for "elite" help before the drop-off.

For that reason I see us sitting pretty at #6.

forget about the dt's. They are d-rob clones. I know we took a cb last year in the first, but mckelvin is going to be a shut down corner. And that was the third option I thought of. If gholston, dmc, and long are gone then we don't really see much of a chance to trade down. unless someone is really high on ryan and want to jump ahead of the ravens, because balt. will probably take him.

[jack48]

Here's a few scenario's

1. Gholston with our 1st round. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Cason or Porter two very good and productive cb's. Manningham, Ducet or Manningham would be a first rounder if he didn't have some character concerns.

2. Mcfadden with our 1st pick. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Mayo or Connor one or both of these lb's are going to be there. Both are going to start in the nfl some where.

3. McKelvin with our 1st pick. Don't be surprised if we go with him if DMC and Gholston are gone. This kid is going to start from day one. I know we picked Revis with our first last year and I know the money it would cost at one position. But, we missed out on Samuel and Miller just can't get it done. Our second round pick would be one of the following: From here we would probably target one of the lb's or w.r.'s previously listed.

I think with our 2 4th rounders we would target the best o linemen and maybe a DT to groom. Possible te or qb if one falls out of the third round. O.k. boys rip apart.

I think if a trade cannot be made and Gholston is available, then Gholston. Pass rush pass rush and more pass rush. If a trade down can be made, then maybe Groves for the same reason. And someone else of course.

[BroadwayJ667]

Here's a few scenario's

1. Gholston with our 1st round. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Cason or Porter two very good and productive cb's. Manningham, Ducet or Manningham would be a first rounder if he didn't have some character concerns.

2. Mcfadden with our 1st pick. Our second round pick would be one of the following: Mayo or Connor one or both of these lb's are going to be there. Both are going to start in the nfl some where.

3. McKelvin with our 1st pick. Don't be surprised if we go with him if DMC and Gholston are gone. This kid is going to start from day one. I know we picked Revis with our first last year and I know the money it would cost at one position. But, we missed out on Samuel and Miller just can't get it done. Our second round pick would be one of the following: From here we would probably target one of the lb's or w.r.'s previously listed.

I think with our 2 4th rounders we would target the best o linemen and maybe a DT to groom. Possible te or qb if one falls out of the third round. O.k. boys rip apart.

Yeah in the McFadden Scenario, i'm not sure they would take an ILB in the second, because both guys are a little undersized, and they could trade down or up to later and get Jon Goff who is a prototypical 3-4 LB. but even then they might take a CB with 36.

I really expect Tannenbaum to do a lot of dealing draft day, one of the things he's great (IMO) at.

[will]

I think if a trade cannot be made and Gholston is available, then Gholston. Pass rush pass rush and more pass rush. If a trade down can be made, then maybe Groves for the same reason. And someone else of course.

Trade down and nabbing Groves is my first choice. Scoring a superior athlete in the second round would be sweet: one of the DTs (Moore), CBs (Justin King), or one of the really athletic LBs (Avril or Mayo). I wouldnt be against a WR either, but its these guys that have me excited more so than a guy like Hardy.