Ghost Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Yes. Mayo has 13 tackles in 2 games. Started both. Only defensive player to play every down in KC game. Not sure if he played every defensive down in the Jets game or he came out for a couple. Injuries could demolish his career right now, anything can happen and it's way to early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Injuries could demolish his career right now, anything can happen and it's way to early. Injuries can demolish anyones career. But the fact is Mayo was able to start for the Pats and contribute from day 1 and Gholston hasn't contributed squat to the Jets. So I would say the Mayo was a better pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Injuries can demolish anyones career. But the fact is Mayo was able to start for the Pats and contribute from day 1 and Gholston hasn't contributed squat to the Jets. So I would say the Mayo was a better pick. FWIW, I thought Mayo was the better pick (certainly when you factor in the trade) on draft day. The guy is super fast and can make tackles inside the box. He will be a great one for the Pats. Perfect need pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Injuries can demolish anyones career. But the fact is Mayo was able to start for the Pats and contribute from day 1 and Gholston hasn't contributed squat to the Jets. So I would say the Mayo was a better pick. Perhaps. But then Mayo didn't need to learn a new position after missing part of his first off-season due to league rules. That, and the Jets already have 2 starting OLB'ers and a 3rd situational pass-rusher (Bowens) already. A little steeper depth chart to climb than the Pats' ILB corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Perhaps. But then Mayo didn't need to learn a new position after missing part of his first off-season due to league rules. That, and the Jets already have 2 starting OLB'ers and a 3rd situational pass-rusher (Bowens) already. A little steeper depth chart to climb than the Pats' ILB corps. The same problem would have happened in NE. We needed an ILB, not an OLB. Vrabel and Thomas are both better on the outside than inside. When Vrabel had to play inside last season, he was effective, but he was taking a beating and had back problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyper Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Was Jerod Mayo the pick the Patriots wanted all along? Did they really want Gholston, but after the Jets took him, just said oh well and trade down? I'm reading that they had this trade down in place before the draft. The Boston media is yet again stroking the NE front office, calling it masterful. What say ye, Patriot faithful? Mayo was the guy they wanted all along. Mayo was the only legitimate ILB prospect which is where we needed help. Everything I read prior to the draft indicated that he was the guy we were targeting. OLB's are much easier to find for the 34. BB's been waiting for a quality ILB for a few years now. Mayo was the guy he wanted. Belichick has a strong relationship with Urban Meyer (Fla) and they often share notes and make visits with one another. Anyhow, I read something about Meyer strongly recommending Mayo who he was familiar with (SEC competition). I also read a scouting report that stated that Gholston was very inconsistent. He had a couple of HUGE games but most of the time he was invisible and appeared disinterested. Although, in fairness, if one looks hard enough, one can find some negative reports about any prospect. Also, note that Gholston was more of one of those combine workout warriors. BB has been lured by those types before but rarely have they amounted to much for him. He's done much better with guys who have a history of being productive. Mayo had over 140 tackles in each of his last two years at Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Injuries can demolish anyones career. But the fact is Mayo was able to start for the Pats and contribute from day 1 and Gholston hasn't contributed squat to the Jets. So I would say the Mayo was a better pick. This is completly idiotic and you actually have knowledge off the game. Your saying this after 2 F'ing games. Please read the bolded sentence twice or as many times as it gets in your head. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 "He likes football." -Bill Belichick hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ghost you are right it is only two games. And therefore it is way too early to declare Gholston a bust. But two games are more then enough to say that Mayo has been a great edition to the NEP. I haven't formed an opinion if he is better than Tedy Bruschi but I have heard some claim that. According to other players he knows the playbook as if he had been playing in the system for years. Will Gholston eventually contribute the Jets? I dunno. But I do know that it is inconceivable that any rookie ILB could have contributed more in his first two games than Mayo has. So I stand by my assessment that Mayo was the better choice for the New England Patriots. And yes we got the LB we wanted. And he is exceeding everyones draft day expectations. On the topic of Gholston didn't many of you predict in the pre-season that he would have multiple sacks on the NEP QB week 2? Don't tell me Gholston is exceeding Jets expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ghost you are right it is only two games. And therefore it is way too early to declare Gholston a bust. But two games are more then enough to say that Mayo has been a great edition to the NEP. I haven't formed an opinion if he is better than Tedy Bruschi but I have heard some claim that. According to other players he knows the playbook as if he had been playing in the system for years. Will Gholston eventually contribute the Jets? I dunno. But I do know that it is inconceivable that any rookie ILB could have contributed more in his first two games than Mayo has. So I stand by my assessment that Mayo was the better choice for the New England Patriots. And yes we got the LB we wanted. And he is exceeding everyones draft day expectations. On the topic of Gholston didn't many of you predict in the pre-season that he would have multiple sacks on the NEP QB week 2? Don't tell me Gholston is exceeding Jets expectations. No but BT and CP are so there is really no rush to get him on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 No but BT and CP are so there is really no rush to get him on the field. Then why draft him? A 4-12 team must have holes that require immediate attention. Otherwise the team would not be 4-12 and have a top 5 pick. So Mangini picks a guy for a position he already has solid starters. Instead of a player that could have an impact on the team. That doesn't make any sense. I could see a team that made the playoffs being in a situation where anybody they draft wouldn't be ready on day one to make an impact because the team is so well stocked. But a 4-12 team is a different story. I have heard speculation that the only reason Jets when for Gholston is they thought the Pats wanted him, and it was EM's way of sticking it to BB. I have hard time believing anyone would run their draft board that way. But if the Jets did it is truly moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Belichick has a strong relationship with Urban Meyer (Fla) and they often share notes and make visits with one another. Anyhow, I read something about Meyer strongly recommending Mayo who he was familiar with (SEC competition). . I have been saying for a long time that Meyer is the Belidick of college ball, a cheat, a liar, an all around POS...this proves my point btw hoodie, nice sig...proves our point even more about how the patsie* get to play by different rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I also read a scouting report that stated that Gholston was very inconsistent. He had a couple of HUGE games but most of the time he was invisible and appeared disinterested. Like the NE game? Also, note that Gholston was more of one of those combine workout warriors. BB has been lured by those types before but rarely have they amounted to much for him. He's done much better with guys who have a history of being productive. Mayo had over 140 tackles in each of his last two years at Tennessee. Mayo is on pace to have 100 tackles in his rook season. Not too shabby considering Gholston was the player NE really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayLewis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 btw hoodie, nice sig...proves our point even more about how the patsie* get to play by different rules What rules are you referring to? And by the way, the top two LBs so far are Mayo and Keith Rivers. I eventually think Rivers will be the bigger star, but Mayo will be solid for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What rules are you referring to? And by the way, the top two LBs so far are Mayo and Keith Rivers. I eventually think Rivers will be the bigger star, but Mayo will be solid for several years. ever hear of in the grasp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayLewis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 ever hear of in the grasp? So are you saying it should have only been a 15-yard-loss and not a 20-yard-loss? Would that have mattered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 So are you saying it should have only been a 15-yard-loss and not a 20-yard-loss? Would that have mattered? check the tard markers again, more like A 7 yd loss instead of 20...A BIG DIFFERENCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 check the tard markers again, more like A 7 yd loss instead of 20...A BIG DIFFERENCE You're kidding, right? If AT were a Jets player doing that very same thing to Lord Brady and Kevin Faulk - you would be calling it the greatest sack of all time. 'gimme a break. Totally legit sack.....with a 3rd down back take-down for good measure. A two for one special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 check the tard markers again, more like A 7 yd loss instead of 20...A BIG DIFFERENCE I know it's a typo but it made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 You're kidding, right? If AT were a Jets player doing that very same thing to Lord Brady and Kevin Faulk - you would be calling it the greatest sack of all time. 'gimme a break. Totally legit sack.....with a 3rd down back take-down for good measure. A two for one special. come on Garb, you know me better then that don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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