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Updated: Aug. 1, 2005, 12:35 PM ET

Source says Palmeiro will be suspendedESPN.com news services

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Baltimore Orioles first baseman Rafael Palmeiro will be suspended by Major League Baseball for violating the league's steroids policy, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney has confirmed with a league source.

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Palmeiro, who recently got his 3,000th career hit, was noted for his emotional denial of steroid use before a Congressional panel in March, would be the latest player suspended under the league's new drug policy.

The image of Palmeiro taking a sweet swing from the left side of the plate has been replaced in some minds by the sight of him testifying before a House committee investigating steroids in baseball.

The hearing included testimony from Jose Canseco, who in his book cited Palmeiro and several other players as steroid users. Palmeiro emphatically denies using the performance-enhancing drug, but the Baltimore Orioles' first baseman can't deny how perceptions have changed.

"In my opinion, everyone that plays baseball in this era has been tainted," Palmeiro said during spring training. "Not just the people that he has named in the book, I think this whole era over the last 10, 15 or 20 years has been tainted. Regardless of whether you did or you didn't do anything, this whole era will have that label."

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...that an announcement is due soon saying that Rafeal Palmiero has tested positive for steroid use?

So Garb, SJ, and all other Blue State Manny defenders...where is the rant about how society is to blame for forcing Raffy to stick needles up his ass by putting such focus on "achievment" when "we are all valuable human beings" and deserve to be treated like we are all first ballot Hall of Famers???

Or maybe EEI is to blame for breaking the story and relishing in the misery of other people for the sole purpose of increasing listenership in an effort to increase market shares!?!?!

Surely...it cant be Rafeal Palmeiro's fault that he took steroids???

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Okay am I the only person here who thinks something just isn't right.

1) Why in anyone's right mind would out and out lie to congress about his steroid use ? This makes no sense at all to me.

2) Palmeiro's HOF ticket has already been punched why put that to risk ?

3)Palmiero is also a spokesperson for Viagra could that have something to do with it. (Chemical wise)

This is going to get really REALLY ugly for Palmiero just based on the fact he lied in front of Congress.

This is far from over.

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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I love it when someone perjures themselves. I don't know why, but it gives me wood. Can they get Sosa next?

Did you see Sammy last night on TV?

Either those Orioles uniforms are extra large or this dude has gotten way smaller.

And his numbers?

Coincidence?

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WEEI did not break the story - they stole off some AP wire - or was it ESPN? Not sure. Anyway, JBF - do you seriously think I would beleive what that Putz Pete Sheppard ever has to say? The biggest (literally) liar to ever disgrace the Boston airwaves?

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Garb...I dont want to come off as a pro-EEI advocate. I hate sports talk radio almost as much as you do. Its misinformation or no information 100% of the time. But unless Pete Sheppard refused to play when asked by the manager under VERY extenuating circumstances...I dont want to hear about Pete Sheppard, or Theo Epstein, or Larry Lucchino in this discussion. Sports talk radio has nothing to do with Manny no-showing last Tuesday and Manny potentially no-showing in another big spot down the road.

But to let Manny skate on this issue without being killed for it is egregious.

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Okay am I the only person here who thinks something just isn't right.

1) Why in anyone's right mind would out and out lie to congress about his steroid use ? This makes no sense at all to me.

2) Palmeiro's HOF ticket has already been punched why put that to risk ?

3)Palmiero is also a spokesperson for Viagra could that have something to do with it. (Chemical wise)

This is going to get really REALLY ugly for Palmiero just based on the fact he lied in front of Congress.

This is far from over.

To answer your questions

1) If your being asked to step before the United States government in front of millions of people nationwide in the biggest hearing ever made on the case of steroids, you wouldn't freely admit to using roids for the risk of public retaliation and basically the stereotype of being one of the guys responsible for the fall of the intregrity of baseball. Naturally, he's going to deny this.

2) I wouldn't say that Palmeiro had an automatic bid into the HOF. A LOT of writers, for one reason or another, have said that they still do not believe Palmeiro deserves to be in the hof. Hard to say when he has 3,000 hits and 500 hrs, but he also has never played for a championship squad, has reached the playoffs only a handful of times without really contributing and for the most part has avoided the media, the one group you need to befriend come vote time. (at least the ones that have HOF votes) It was unsure that palmeiro was going to get in before today, not it's just a forgone conclusion that he'll never get inducted.

3)I read an article about Palmeiro when he first started doing Viagra commercials nad he said he as endorsing the product even though he never uses it. Palmeiro fits the bill for who they're looking for (middle-aged man in his 40s) so naturally they're not going to take Jason Bay and have him endorse Viagra.Who knows, he lied about roids maybe he lied about takin viagra too. :mrgreen:#-o

This is a very bad day for baseball.

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To answer your questions

1) If your being asked to step before the United States government in front of millions of people nationwide in the biggest hearing ever made on the case of steroids, you wouldn't freely admit to using roids for the risk of public retaliation and basically the stereotype of being one of the guys responsible for the fall of the intregrity of baseball. Naturally, he's going to deny this.

2) I wouldn't say that Palmeiro had an automatic bid into the HOF. A LOT of writers, for one reason or another, have said that they still do not believe Palmeiro deserves to be in the hof. Hard to say when he has 3,000 hits and 500 hrs, but he also has never played for a championship squad, has reached the playoffs only a handful of times without really contributing and for the most part has avoided the media, the one group you need to befriend come vote time. (at least the ones that have HOF votes) It was unsure that palmeiro was going to get in before today, not it's just a forgone conclusion that he'll never get inducted.

3)I read an article about Palmeiro when he first started doing Viagra commercials nad he said he as endorsing the product even though he never uses it. Palmeiro fits the bill for who they're looking for (middle-aged man in his 40s) so naturally they're not going to take Jason Bay and have him endorse Viagra.Who knows, he lied about roids maybe he lied about takin viagra too. :mrgreen:#-o

This is a very bad day for baseball.

Wasn't he under oath though when he testfied before congress ?

That is what blows my mind. You vehmently deny that you have never "intentionally" done steroids and not even what six months later you get suspended for doing steroids !?!

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Sad day for baseball. Am I a fool for believing that MLB was starting to get past this?

And the bigger question is....who's next? How do we know that others aren't doing steroids? Perhaps there was a new kind of steroid, something that until now, was undetectable. Will the hammer fall elsewhere?

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JBF - if someone is to question someones work ethic and morality - Pete Sheppard should be LAST on that list. This would be the same "professional" who went on a two-day bender and decided not just blow off work. Yup - blew it off! Did he call in "sick?" Nope - he blew it off. He was busy playing drunken slap-ass at some bar in Providence, RI. So, what happens to Pete? He got suspended by WEEI for a couple of weeks and the rumor mill stopped. Of course, he gets the "you're a drunk" jabs from his co-horts, but it goes no further. Critizism from within non-existent. And here is Pete, on his soap box, preaching ethics. Are you kidding me?

Garb...I dont want to come off as a pro-EEI advocate. I hate sports talk radio almost as much as you do. Its misinformation or no information 100% of the time. But unless Pete Sheppard refused to play when asked by the manager under VERY extenuating circumstances...I dont want to hear about Pete Sheppard, or Theo Epstein, or Larry Lucchino in this discussion. Sports talk radio has nothing to do with Manny no-showing last Tuesday and Manny potentially no-showing in another big spot down the road.

But to let Manny skate on this issue without being killed for it is egregious.

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If anyone thinks that the chemists aren't ahead of the testers, they need to repeat high school.

We have a nation of sportswriters that spent the better part of the last month saying what a great guy Lance Armstrong is while ignoring that his former Italian trainer got locked up for dealing performance-enhancing drugs; people who worked for him said he cheats; and Greg Lemonde says he cheats.This may be one of the rare occasions that the French are right about something. But when the supposedly-tough sports press is more interested in selling than reporting, the real story won't come out.

What incentive does ESPN-with Chris Berman and Steven A-hole Smith-have to ask hard questions about MLB, the NBA and the NFL? Rights fees would only go up. There's a better chance Herm Edwards taking a vow of silence than there is of Stuart Scott asking a hard question of Barry Bonds.

The question isn't who's next, but how dumb Palmiero and his pals are to get caught. because the chemists now know that whate ever he took is now verboten.

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...now batting for your New York Yankees, number 25...

Giambi, Giambi, Giambi. Always the first person everyone thinks of when steroids comes up. You could be right, however. Especially with the way Giambi is hitting lately. But there must be others out there. No team is safe from this.

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As far as I'm concerned, everyone's a suspect.

Obviously Giambi is the popular choice to be back on the sauce.

How about Piazza though? A guy drafted in the what, 62 round turns out to be the best hitting catcher of all time. Something doesn't seem right.

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As far as I'm concerned, everyone's a suspect.

Obviously Giambi is the popular choice to be back on the sauce.

How about Piazza though? A guy drafted in the what, 62 round turns out to be the best hitting catcher of all time. Something doesn't seem right.

As the MLB draft is an exact science. But, I digress... everyone who's played from 85 til now is a suspect. Anyone who played before that and started before that, they're not under the cloud as much. That's if you want to put a time stamp on it.

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As far as I'm concerned, everyone's a suspect.

Obviously Giambi is the popular choice to be back on the sauce.

How about Piazza though? A guy drafted in the what, 62 round turns out to be the best hitting catcher of all time. Something doesn't seem right.

I think they'res more of a debate of whether Piazza loves the sausage rather than if he's on the juice.

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